Only just seen this has been quenched. Nice work! Will have to go join a game now.

Looks nicer for me. Thanks. Not so much of a hotch-potch of names now. :)

Are Capua and Genua too long, do you think? I managed to look at a slightly better map today. Setia, Atina or Velia might be shorter because of the narrower letters, but it's not a big thing. Just some suggestions for if you ...

The very next sentence in that source then says Agrippa was on the left. Anyway, I only brought it up because it seemed odd to do an Actium map but ignore the two accounts that give battle lines.

On the subject of names, this is what I've come up with so far.

Roman Names - Octavius
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Just noticed you have Gaius Agrippa in the legend when it ought be Marcus. There's a small typo in the territory Zeus as well.

Also, after research, I discovered that Insteius took the centre af the battle against Arruntius, and M Antonius was against Octavius on the right, so have made the ...

The difficulty is do we put everything in latin, or the english version. I would prefer the english version, otherwise the whole mpa needs to become latinised. It's kind of like "in for a penny in for a pound".

The size restrictions make that one easier for you. It will pretty much have to be ...

Wow, this has changed a lot since I was last able to check in. Looks a lot better now with the changes you've made.

I'm not sure I like the names at the moment since they seem to be an odd jumble of Roman, Greek, and Egyptian gods and goddesses, Roman names, random places, and Roman victories and ...

I had meant that it is the abbreviation used in the modern day too, not just back then, but never mind.

As to G vs C issue, i'd like to stick with G. standing for Gaius. the same as I have M. standing for Marcus.

M. is the standard abbreviation of Marcus though. If you're going with G. then fair enough (I did vote A for the section on names after all), I just thought I'd mention it because it ...

No, various sources have him doing different things. If I were in a particularly cynical mood, I might even go so far as to suggest he was hanging around at the back somewhere just in case things went wrong.

Plutarch probably gives the most complete sketch, although by no means the defiitive since ...

What sources are you using for the names? You're missing Agrippa, who was probably the guy responsible for Octavian's victory.

As a little extra to the Octavius/Octavian question, Wikipedia is indeed correct on that one. Appian tells us that, although his name should have become C. Julius Caesar ...

I was in the library today so I took a look at their copy of the Barrington Atlas in the hope that it might contain a better name for the continent currently named Achaia, since that was really a province name. No luck though. Greece is the closest you could possibly get from it for this time period ...

I think a few liberties are going to have to be taken here and there to make it work, such as the inclusion of Germania Magna to make up the continent, or the redrawing of boundaries slightly and splitting up or joining together provinces.

If Italia is put in as a single province, what happens to ...

We've had the Asia suggestion. Yes, Asia was used to describe the continent of Asia, but it was also used to describe the area of Asia minor, and to describe the province of Asia. On the map it is used already as the province.

Just because oriens wasn't a recognised political division, it doesn't ...

It's not being put forward as the name of a province, but as the name of an area, in much the same way that Spain, Gaul and Africa were names of areas. The reference to the prefecture of Oriens was to show that the Romans applied the name to that area.

Byzantium existed as a city during the Roman ...

Oriens is probably around the time of the late Roman Empire, but it is probably still pre-Eastern Roman Empire and pre-Byzantine Empire.

I know you're sold on the idea now (you posted while I was just looking something up :) ) but just to back up what Pious says there (and because I've looked it ...

I hadn't heard of it before either until I did a quick search on JSTOR for Oriens and started seeing some references to it. I can't say I have much interest in Rome during this period though. It begins waning from the point when it becomes an empire.

This page has a very brief overview of the ...

Apparently Oriens would be the most accurate name. When you suggested it, my first thought was that since oriens could be used to mean the East, it would be a nice way around the problem: call the area on the east of the map 'the East' and then simply translate it into Latin. It wouldn't really be ...

We're talking about renaming the pink, right? Asia can refer to the East in Latin. Oriens, aurora, and ortus also can. Of all of them, "Asia" is probably the most fitting. Asia Minor refers to Turkey only, "Asia" could very well cover the eastern empire located on the modern continent of... Asia ...

Does anyone else think that confusion between which continent Byzantium belongs to will be a major problem?

To me it's blue enough that it looks like it belongs to Achaia. It could just be the name of the continent that causes a problem.

As for the spain/africa border, is this a problem for ...

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I'll happily sign up for Wales, although I'm not going to be available until Thursday, if that's a problem.

Irritatingly, a lot of the shots aren't very close up but you might possibly find something useful here. Don't know if most of the pictures really fit the style of the map though.

http://www.legionxxiv.org/signum/

I can't see the bottom for some reason but what I can see looks much better. The islands are looking good now. I would say I prefer this version to the one with black borders.

As for the border, you are correct. I used a 2px brush around the coasts and as the outline for the empire itself, and then a 1px to differentiate the territories. Does it look too inconsistent then? I can re-do with a single size brush if other people think this is a problem as well... Which ...

Yeah, I know. What I was thinking about with that one though is that Achaia in the strict sense is only really Greece as it was then rather than everything else. Could call the area Greece, I suppose, but then you could also stick with Achaia and maybe bring back Aegaeum for the territory since that ...