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What I find amusing is that the creationists always proclaim "something cannot come from nothing!"...unless it happens to be their god making "something from nothing", and then it's perfectly OK.


That actually does sound logical, because they contend nothing cannot naturally turn into something ...

First of all, I wasn't talking about "western civilization" in particular, I was referring to the Greeks and other earlier civilizations. But besides that, it was just an example. Science has been wrong many times before.

And it was logical to believe in a flat earth. There was little evidence for ...

Backglass wrote:A true atheist would never join an atheist group...it's too much like a religion.

If atheists have this attitude we'll always be a quiet, persecuted minority.

Existence does not defy logic in my opinion. It only defies what we are able to perceive of logic. The final equation will be logical once we understand the math.

No, porky, it won't, because of the problems of an uncaused cause or infinite regression. Math doesn't factor into either of them ...

Wow, you guys talk about religion a lot. I mean, half the topics in this forum are on religion, mainly Christianity.

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Well they were given a choice: convert, leave, or die. Apparently converting sounded good to most of them.

I think the bible is pretty clear on who can get to heaven. The main point of the bible is a lot of shlak about how you can only be saved through Jesus and for all of the preaching about how forgiving Jesus is, he doesn't really seem to show it that much. I didn't read all nine pages of this topic ...

I just joined this site and I am an atheist, can I be in this group?