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by spiesr
Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:00 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 5/12 D4: Slanted

Hey, sorry for my low activity lately, I have been real busy. Let me now update on where I stand today.
Iron Butterfly is my number one choice right now. I am feeling some scummy vibes there, can't really give a more elaborate reason without a reread that I likely won't have time for until Wednesday ...
by spiesr
Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:32 am
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 5/12 D4: Slanted

The fact that you killed storr under the guise of protection has never sat right by me. Can you point me to where you got the idea that I was trying to protect Stor (or make people think so) when I killed him? My intent was to use my action as a kill, and I don't recall describing it any other way ...
by spiesr
Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:47 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 5/12 D4: Slanted

Here is an idea I will put out there. We could try going no lynch for a couple of days until Jonty has locked everyone down. That way we don't run the risk of losing if we mislynch and the scum wasn't already blocked but just faking it. Any thoughts on the concept?
by spiesr
Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:26 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 6/12 D3: Discord in the Night

Have we figured out how we had two deaths on night one yet? No PGO has popped up, and wasn't that the consensus we came to? Most likely answer (in my opinion) is that Hosthot tried to recruit scum. I don't think a Town bomb goes off on a lynch so there would be no point to lynching him anyways to ...
by spiesr
Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:46 am
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 6/12 D3: Discord in the Night

As for my claim (mainly directed towards Jonty at this point)- no one is questioning DJ because of his lack of proof for claim. He's been blocked, but that doesn't mean it's not a fake claim (although I am very inclined to believe it). Why am I being questioned for mine, where I was unlucky night 1 ...
by spiesr
Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:46 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 6/12 D3: Discord in the Night

1. Do you consider a claim to be a shield? Because it is not a shield. It is something to be analyzed, like any other piece of information we gather in this game. So drop your so we can analyze. Or are you suggestion that we should just lynch Jamesker now and not look at anything else today? 2 ...
by spiesr
Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:28 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 6/12 D3: Discord in the Night

I wouldnt go that far in saying they have to be the final scum but PCM it is LYLO. 6 people left, we lynch wrong person thats 5. Mafia kills 1 at night thats 4. There should be 2 mafia left... 2/4 Mafia win. Done. I think that scenario isn't tecnically LYLO (Lynch or Lose), but rather Mislynch and ...
by spiesr
Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:27 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 8/12 N2: Balance Bugs Me

Given that James is one of the remaining killers, I think the other has to be somewhere between spiesr and IB. Obviously, it can't be jonty. It's too unlikely for it to be DJ at this point based on jonty's N1 action. So it's gotta be one or the other of those two. Bad news is that given there were ...
by spiesr
Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:43 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

But at the end, getting james to talk was productive. Yes, we can all agree that it is better if James (or whoever) posts more. The disagree there is that you claimed that his post level provided you with some sort of information that made you think his alignment was scum. Others (like pancakemix ...
by spiesr
Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:16 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

I think the current vote count looks like this:

Storr (3) - DJfireside, PancakeMix, spiesr
Jonty (3) - Metsfanmax, JamesKer1, StorrZerg
Jameker (3) - jonty125, Iron Butterfly, Streaker
by spiesr
Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:15 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

James, why how do you expalin Dj confirming Jonty's action? I don't want to speculate too much into this, but if DJ turns up mafia, we definitely need to crack down on Jonty over this. But I will leave it until then. This isn't the answer I am looking for. Scenarios exist where Jonty could be scum ...
by spiesr
Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:53 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

James, why how do you expalin Dj confirming Jonty's action? That is fine if you suspect me over james or jonty. My follow up question is, do you suspect them. If you do, would you be willing to put your vote on either of them to insure a lynch happened. If so which one? Why that one over the other ...
by spiesr
Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:34 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

As for Speirs, other options are present. He talked about no lynch and how it might happen. I'm saying a no lynch is the fault of everyone, not one person who refuses to be lynched. The point I was making there was to attempt to present a scenario (that scenario is more specific than just being a ...
by spiesr
Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

[quote="StorrZerg"I'm not sure why you didn't wait to see if i would have hammered.[/quote]Why would I risk you not doing so when I could do it myself? I'm town and trying to to not be lynched. I come from a different meta, and i do different things. It has been proven in past games that just ...
by spiesr
Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:58 am
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

Its as if, me pushing a second read day 1 on dj was worth 1000 scum points. While my initial push on virus was worth 1. My second push on virus 1. Well, when you told everyone who was still voting for Virus that they were stupid for continuing to do so, in my mind that wipes out a lot of the points ...
by spiesr
Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:03 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

StorrZerg wrote:Dj, why doesn't jonty block his biggest scum target?
How do you know that is his goal was to block somebody rather than to protect someone? His role does both.
by spiesr
Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:41 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

Also, I retargeted the action of Storr onto myself during night. I am not sure what happened, since mod gave me no notification whatsoever (of succes, of roleblock or anything). Okay. so you changed Storr's target, rather than have saw he him lying. There was probably no need to mention this in the ...
by spiesr
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:00 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

It is standard play here at CC that mafia shoots and serial killers chop or kill. This is certainly an idea I have heard before, but haven't seen used nearly enough to call it a standard. Most of the time games have enough theme derived flavor that the murder weapon is whatever fits with the ...
by spiesr
Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:31 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

[/quote]Refusing to claim when the town/conditions demand it certainly feels scummy. Storr is still my number one suspect. You shouldn't have to pat yourself on the back for "town moves"- that makes them seem planned out and calculated. Just like breadcrumbing your role to use as a backup for a ...
by spiesr
Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:45 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

"My actions on day 1, are very easy to read as someone who WANTS a lynch to happen, anyone giving the opinion that i wanted a No lynch is 100% wrong."

Yes, but the target didn't seem to matter- myself, DJ, and everyone else that you are STILL accusing today- so that point is invalid. If you had ...
by spiesr
Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:23 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

Your two mafia theory, which you bring up in the same paragraph, makes the point about mtam's death totally moot. Ah but if you believe in 2 mafia factions, then i am far less likely to switch form virus or even start a case on virus. Why? because 2 factions means less mafia on each team generally ...
by spiesr
Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:59 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 9/12 D2: Distracted Equilibri

@dj why do you think virus didn't vote on you near the end? I made it very clear his only option was to vote you, yet he failed to do so. He even stated he didnt see another option at the time. He even failed to mention you in his closing thoughts, when i even asked him to. Interesting theory (that ...
by spiesr
Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:35 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 12/12 D1: Skewed

Well, since I didn't get a commitment to follow any sort of plan out of Virus I will just go ahead and hammer.
Unvote, Vote Virus
by spiesr
Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:41 pm
Forum: Mafia Archives
Topic: Balance Not Included Mafia 3/12 End Game: Balance. Town Wins
Replies: 678
Views: 169536

Re: Balance Not Included Mafia 12/12 D1: Skewed

Pancakemix, about this post , what motive are you assuming a scum Mets would have in doing the thing in Point 1 without creating a situation where he was right about the thing in Point 2? They've given reasons. I at least understand their logic so I can't fault them for being reasoned. Granted I don ...

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