Versions of the Bible

[b.k. barunt]

Yeah it was. Actually it was an offhanded analogy prompted by an aggravatingly stereotypical question. Mea culpa. Oops, fast posted. That was in response to maugena.


Honibaz

[PLAYER57832]

The crime of cows is being delicious.

I wasn't there but I suspect they were arguing on the internet forums. Suggesting the best version of cave paintings was one in a language no one there actually used. God got tired of it and e-mailed Noah to build an ark, he set his facebook status to "Taking some animals for a boat ride. brb LOL" and here we are.

Let me know how you do in leviticus and deuteronomy. I have never made it through most of the old testement. I don't have a problem with the concept in theory but even some modern Jews refer to it as, "The sacrificial cult." I find it interesting that now it has passed we can't relate to it.

I did something wrong, now I kill a bird. I guess if it were active I probably wouldn't get it not being Hebrew.

[squishyg]

Yeah it was. Actually it was an offhanded analogy prompted by an aggravatingly stereotypical question. Mea culpa. Oops, fast posted. That was in response to maugena.


Honibaz

i'm not trying to be aggravting, i was asking a real question. i am not mocking anyone's beliefs or belittling anyone's faith. please don't treat me as unworthy of asking questions. i truly don't understand why a good and just God would kill so many creatures.

[PLAYER57832]

i'm not trying to be aggravting, i was asking a real question. i am not mocking anyone's beliefs or belittling anyone's faith. please don't treat me as unworthy of asking questions. i truly don't understand why a good and just God would kill so many creatures.

I don't know b.K's answer, but I can give you what I have been told.

A. He did not really. This is not a huge view, but I mention it for full inclusion. The scenario here is that he killed off all animals and people in the writer's experience. We have a whole continent here that was unknown, possibly even back then. The people who recorded the Bible might not have known of other groups of people elsewhere far away. However, this really does not answer your question because even if he did not kill every last creature, he still killed off plenty!

B. God is God. God knows all, unlike us. The best comparison might be something like a doctor cutting off a limb to save a life. Or, perhaps a military leader that lets one company go into a massacre so that others might make progress. Terrible, but not as terrible as the other alternatives. However, in this case, God sort of "apologized" - said he would never do this again, gave us the rainbow. That sort of indicates that God "learned", which is a problem for an all-knowing, omniscient God. Most Christians would say it was not God that erred, but humanity that improved. God knew it was necessary this once, but only that once.

At any rate, it is easy to see plenty of evil in this world. But, the truth is that without that evil much good would never happen. We can say we don't like it, but we might be like a child saying "I won't eat vegetables, I want candy". What seems good to us is not always what really is in the long term. It, of course, might seem callous to compare eating vegetables to a child dying. However, in God's world, all things are known. As a Christian, I have to believe that God knows what is ultimately best for us, even if I cannot possibly understand it now. Not best for us as individuals, necessarily, but best for the whole of humanity.

[squishyg]

thanks for your answer PLAYER, I can appreciate that take on it. naturally, i know the story of the flood, but the way it was described seemed so brutal to me. as with everything in the Bible, I guess it's open to interpretation.

[PLAYER57832]

thanks for your answer PLAYER, I can appreciate that take on it. naturally, i know the story of the flood, but the way it was described seemed so brutal to me. as with everything in the Bible, I guess it's open to interpretation.

A bit, though mostly its a matter of whether you believe in God and if so, that God, ultimately, has our best interests at heart (all of us, that is).

[Lionz]

Squishyg,

How about check these out?

http://qbible.com/enoch/7.html
http://qbible.com/enoch/8.html
http://qbible.com/enoch/9.html
http://qbible.com/enoch/10.html

There was severe violence and massive famine just prior to the flood that was partially the result of angels coming to earth and teaching humans about weaponry and producing giant offspring with women maybe. Humans themselves were even eaten just prior to the flood maybe.

This is a section from the third and includes a translation of words to Him from one or more non-fallen angel perhaps...

And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'

Now check out the fourth? What if humans and animals were headed towards extinction and the flood ironically helped prevent it?

[Lionz]

He Himself actually repented after the flood either way maybe.

http://qbible.com/enoch/54.html

You should consider reading a version of John and then getting into so called OT stuff afterwards maybe. I wonder if Eyes of the Son helped Yah better understand things from a human point of view perhaps, but there might be some Christians who would consider someone saying that to be blasphemous.

[Lionz]

Player,

Nice B section by you perhaps. : )

[squishyg]

Thanks Lionz, I'll check out those links. I'll also refrain from posting until I've finished reading the whole Bible. I'm commenting on things as I read them, so I don't see how it turns out in the end (i.e. God repenting after the flood).

[Gavino07]

I go with New International Version or New King James. I personally read New International Version. I do have a copy of King James for reference purposes, but not for my daily reading. You know.