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Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:27 pm
by DoomYoshi
Jgordon. You said there is a pattern that you noticed from reading. The pattern is that whoever points the finger first needs to be watched. Now I need you to provide a specific example. In which game did the first person to make a case need to be watched? This might seem like it is drilling, but my question has not changed.
Thank you Rodion for realizing what I mean. I think Pkmn sucked cuz f the mod maybe, but he has been working on a new game since August... This one will be epic.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:05 pm
by jgordon1111
above answer still stands,yoshi dont plan on trying to be first possibly lynched in this game thanks.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:07 am
by rdsrds2120
Leitz has indeed been quiet. Not that I'm one to judge
vote leitz to pressure for now I s'pose. Blech, icky day 1 is icky like always
-rd
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:33 am
by shieldgenerator7
DoomYoshi wrote:Thank you Rodion for realizing what I mean. I think Pkmn sucked cuz f the mod maybe, but
he has been working on a new game since August... This one will be epic.
WHOA!! CAN"T WAIT!!
And BTW
VOTE LEITZ
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:56 am
by Rodion
jgordon1111 wrote:above answer still stands,yoshi dont plan on trying to be first possibly lynched in this game thanks.
This is the second time Yoshi asks you a legit question and you answer by threatening him. Mind you, I'm not fond of riddle answers like the one you gave me either.
Vote Jgordon1111
So, you opened the game with a statement that the players who start pointing fingers are usually scum (or at least that is what I understood about it). Yoshi asked you to show your data and not only you refused to do it, but you also threatened him.
If you want me to unvote, you will make a damn fine report on what Yoshi and I asked you.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:28 am
by DoomYoshi
Unvote vote jgordon
I really don't want to lynch you. I feel this is possibly just a misunderstanding. However, the fact that you are threatening me now is suspicious.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:29 pm
by jgordon1111
just reread my post to you yoshi,i dont see where i threatened you.Can you explain the threat or the implied threat to you please.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:19 pm
by DoomYoshi
jgordon1111 wrote:yoshi dont plan on trying to be first possibly lynched in this game thanks.
Is this not you threatening me?
Now that I reread it, I realize you could be reiterating what you said earlier. Apologies there. however, I am not asking you to point fingers in this game. What I want you to do is Provide an example from a game that proves your point. You told me which games you read. Now tell me in which games the first person making a case needed to be watched.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:46 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Rodion wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:above answer still stands,yoshi dont plan on trying to be first possibly lynched in this game thanks.
This is the second time Yoshi asks you a legit question and you answer by threatening him. Mind you, I'm not fond of riddle answers like the one you gave me either.
Vote Jgordon1111
So, you opened the game with a statement that the players who start pointing fingers are usually scum (or at least that is what I understood about it). Yoshi asked you to show your data and not only you refused to do it, but you also threatened him.
If you want me to unvote, you will make a damn fine report on what Yoshi and I asked you.
I do not beleive he was threatening anyone. I have however had problems reading several of his posts. I did not wish to appear rude and ask if english is a second language but it has been a problem.
On looking at jgordon I think the only thing he has been guilty of so far is over generalization. He can post whatever data you want and if you dont agree with his opinion of that data, what then? Does that prove something? This is his first game.
I am more concerned about Leitz. My vote for him was a joke vote...at first. Now I question the fact that he only has one post, which was his joke about my name. Granted we all get busy in real life but he has been playing his game turns on a daily basis so he cant make the argument that real life concerns have interfered.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:14 pm
by Victor Sullivan
I see Leitz in this forum right now
Come in and post, buddy!
...so I don't have to vote you
-Sully
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:43 pm
by jgordon1111
ok now i see what you were saying yoshi,no it was not a threat toward you. Iron butterfly has the right of it. I was saying that if i start pointing fingers then the odds are i will arouse suspicion and be the first person lynched.thank you Iron Butterfly, I didnt see it until your post.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:51 pm
by freezie
jgordon1111 wrote: The games that i have read seem to go slow for a long time before anyone does anything,this just speed it up a little maybe.
So, you go from a ''the first voter is scum'' to '' games are slow and what I am doing speeds up everything''
A=/= B
Unvote
Vote: Jgordon
They asked for patterns and exemples, and you give us apples. Not happening.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:05 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Victor Sullivan wrote:I see Leitz in this forum right now
Come in and post, buddy!
...so I don't have to vote you
-Sully
So he was lurking and still did not post?
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:42 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Iron Butterfly wrote:Victor Sullivan wrote:I see Leitz in this forum right now
Come in and post, buddy!
...so I don't have to vote you
-Sully
So he was lurking and still did not post?
Yup:
Vote Leitz
-Sully
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:53 pm
by jgordon1111
freezie i said i dont have an opinion at this time what leitz is and can unvote him,and not sure about speeding things up,this is my first game,i wanted to see who says what and who starts trying to sway the game one way or the other, i noticed in the archived games the mafia wins alot(at least the ones i read) and they usually control the game from the outset.Before i cast an actual vote to lynch someone i am trying to find out more about everyone,and see what they are thinking and why.easiest way to do that is get them talking,and see who aligns with them and why
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:25 pm
by pancakemix
jgordon1111 wrote:freezie i said i dont have an opinion at this time what leitz is and can unvote him,and not sure about speeding things up,this is my first game,i wanted to see who says what and who starts trying to sway the game one way or the other, i noticed in the archived games the mafia wins alot(at least the ones i read) and they usually control the game from the outset.Before i cast an actual vote to lynch someone i am trying to find out more about everyone,and see what they are thinking and why.easiest way to do that is get them talking,and see who aligns with them and why
Word to the wise: getting reliable reads can take days (Game Time). Days can take weeks in real time.
Not to pressure you or anything, but if you really want this game to advance it's more likely to happen if you vote for someone.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:34 pm
by slowreactor
FYI, Leitz has messaged me saying that he is dropping out, and I am currently working on getting a replacement. Just so you guys know.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:44 pm
by jgordon1111
lol that makes my vote moot,so will wait to see what happens before i do another vote then and it will be based on a reason i find sound.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:28 am
by freezie
jgordon1111 wrote:freezie i said i dont have an opinion at this time what leitz is and can unvote him,and not sure about speeding things up,this is my first game,i wanted to see who says what and who starts trying to sway the game one way or the other, i noticed in the archived games the mafia wins alot(at least the ones i read) and they usually control the game from the outset.Before i cast an actual vote to lynch someone i am trying to find out more about everyone,and see what they are thinking and why.easiest way to do that is get them talking,and see who aligns with them and why
I never said anything about leitz. But know this: When you say something, be ready to back it up. You said you found a pattern in past games, and we asked it. You have been avoiding the subject ever since. And, like PCM said, it will take a while before to catch a scum trying to control everyone. This is day 1, anything can happen.
I keep my vote until you show these ''patterns'' with exemple, or drop it.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:13 am
by jgordon1111
Then you will have to keep your vote freezie,because i have already stated the scum had control of the games early and therefore won, if thats not saying what a pattern is i dont think i can possibly be any clearer for you.If you think i am wrong then do a little homework of your own,instead of demanding i do it for you. you seem not to have read the post i already made about the mafia controlling the games early therefore winning most of them. Its my conclusion of what happened in those games.try going back and reading them for yourself and draw your own conclusions then you can tell us all what you believe.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:41 am
by Iron Butterfly
freezie wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:freezie i said i dont have an opinion at this time what leitz is and can unvote him,and not sure about speeding things up,this is my first game,i wanted to see who says what and who starts trying to sway the game one way or the other, i noticed in the archived games the mafia wins alot(at least the ones i read) and they usually control the game from the outset.Before i cast an actual vote to lynch someone i am trying to find out more about everyone,and see what they are thinking and why.easiest way to do that is get them talking,and see who aligns with them and why
I never said anything about leitz. But know this: When you say something, be ready to back it up. You said you found a pattern in past games, and we asked it. You have been avoiding the subject ever since. And, like PCM said, it will take a while before to catch a scum trying to control everyone. This is day 1, anything can happen.
I keep my vote until you show these ''patterns'' with exemple, or drop it.
Even if he does as you ask that wil not prove he is Mafia or Town.
When you say somthing be ready to back it up. Prove to us, that by doing as you ask it will reveal his alighnment one way or another. If you cant then your vote is based on crap logic, which could imply several things.
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:35 am
by freezie
[quote="Iron Butterfly]
Even if he does as you ask that wil not prove he is Mafia or Town.
When you say somthing be ready to back it up. Prove to us, that by doing as you ask it will reveal his alighnment one way or another. If you cant then your vote is based on crap logic, which could imply several things.[/quote]
Wrong. Absolutly wrong. Discussion is our only way, aside roleclaim, to figure someone's allignment. If we all shut up until we have a briliant theory that will prove someone's allignement, games would be silent for a very long time.
Gordon..That does happen sometimes, other times mafia do try and stay hidden and get under the radar, which we need to pay attention too.
Unvote
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:36 am
by freezie
EBWOP
Iron Butterfly wrote:Even if he does as you ask that wil not prove he is Mafia or Town.
When you say somthing be ready to back it up. Prove to us, that by doing as you ask it will reveal his alighnment one way or another. If you cant then your vote is based on crap logic, which could imply several things.
Wrong. Absolutly wrong. Discussion is our only way, aside roleclaim, to figure someone's allignment. If we all shut up until we have a briliant theory that will prove someone's allignement, games would be silent for a very long time.
Gordon..That does happen sometimes, other times mafia do try and stay hidden and get under the radar, which we need to pay attention too.
Unvote
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:17 am
by Iron Butterfly
freezie wrote:EBWOP
Iron Butterfly wrote:Even if he does as you ask that wil not prove he is Mafia or Town.
When you say somthing be ready to back it up. Prove to us, that by doing as you ask it will reveal his alighnment one way or another. If you cant then your vote is based on crap logic, which could imply several things.
Wrong. Absolutly wrong. Discussion is our only way, aside roleclaim, to figure someone's allignment. If we all shut up until we have a briliant theory that will prove someone's allignement, games would be silent for a very long time.
Gordon..That does happen sometimes, other times mafia do try and stay hidden and get under the radar, which we need to pay attention too.
I agree 100% about discussion. Ones actions are just as important as well.
There is a difference between discussion and busy work that proves nothing one way or the other.
Unvote
Re: M:tG Planeswalkers mafia [15/15] Day 1 Begin!
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:19 am
by Iron Butterfly
EBWOP
I agree 100% about discussion. Ones actions are just as important as well.
There is a difference between discussion and busy work that proves nothing one way or the other.