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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<map>
<title>San Diego</title>
<smallwidth>500</smallwidth>
<smallheight>468</smallheight>
<largewidth>558</largewidth>
<largeheight>523</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>
<continent>
<name>Ocean Beach</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>Old Town</component>
<component>Sunset Cliffs</component>
<component>Point Loma</component>
<component>Airport</component>
<component>Fort Rosecrans</component>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>North County</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>Mira Mesa</component>
<component>Miramar M.C. Air Station</component>
<component>Lake Murray</component>
<component>Mission Trails</component>
<component>San Carlos</component>
<component>Santee</component>
<component>Gillespie Field</component>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Downtown</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
<components>
<component>Mission Valley</component>
<component>Normal Heights</component>
<component>Balboa Park</component>
<component>Gaslamp</component>
<component>N.A.S.</component>
<component>Coronado</component>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Pacific Beach</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<component>Torrey Pines</component>
<component>University City</component>
<component>La Jolla</component>
<component>Clairemont</component>
<component>Mission Bay</component>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>East County</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
<components>
<component>El Cajon</component>
<component>La Mesa</component>
<component>Jamul</component>
<component>Lemon Grove</component>
<component>Paradise Hills</component>
<component>Bonita</component>
<component>Otay</component>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Border</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
<components>
<component>National City</component>
<component>Imperial Beach</component>
<component>Chula Vista</component>
<component>Rancho Del Ray</component>
<component>Lower Otay</component>
<component>San Ysidro</component>
<component>Tiajuana</component>
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</country>
<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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</country>
<country>
<name>Gillespie Field</name>
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</country>
<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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<country>
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edbeard, the "How to Make a Map" says after getting input from everyone and fixing problems and testing the XML, to submit to Lack (step 6). This thread has been almost silent for a month. What's the next step then?edbeard wrote:what testing are you talking about?
I think you're confused about something in the foundry process.
What colors did you have in mind? Do you have a favorite palette you could show?oaktown wrote:since this has been bumped and may be back on track... I'm a bit concerned about the colors. In the past couple of months we've seen many of the more brightly colored maps at this site be redone. The CC users and map-makers seem to prefer a more subtle palette, which may make it difficult for this map to get into the foundry.
As for seeing if the map is ready for testing, the best way to delay production is to tell the moderators it's ready... I'm told that if you make Lack angry you roll nothing but 1's for a week.
Once the map has been Final Forged and then Quenched it will be submitted to Lack via Andy.AndyDufresne wrote:Once the Foundry agrees that the respective map is finished, the Foundry Foreman will make a quick check to make sure that all major suggestions have been either implemented or refuted with logical reasoning. This is the 'Final Forge'. If said map has not addressed certain aspects, it must engage in discussion again before it will be deemed playable and ready for live play. Once all suggestions have been addressed the Foundry Foreman will put his ‘‘Brand of Approval’’ on the map. Maps that have not received the Foundry Brand will not be accepted if submitted. Also remember to sign your work, preferably small and simplistic. Be modest.
OK. Thank you for clarifying.KEYOGI wrote:You haven't got through all of steps 3 yet Troy.
Once the map has been Final Forged and then Quenched it will be submitted to Lack via Andy.AndyDufresne wrote:Once the Foundry agrees that the respective map is finished, the Foundry Foreman will make a quick check to make sure that all major suggestions have been either implemented or refuted with logical reasoning. This is the 'Final Forge'. If said map has not addressed certain aspects, it must engage in discussion again before it will be deemed playable and ready for live play. Once all suggestions have been addressed the Foundry Foreman will put his ‘‘Brand of Approval’’ on the map. Maps that have not received the Foundry Brand will not be accepted if submitted. Also remember to sign your work, preferably small and simplistic. Be modest.
Maybe the How to Make a Map steps need to be reworded a bit to avoid any confusion.

before I give some map feedback I think I'll explain this a bit.TroyMcClure wrote:What reason is that?edbeard wrote:please don't bump threads like this. there's been no posts in the thread for close to 2 months for a reason. thanks.
Why don't I get notified? I'm watching this thread, but I dont get an email.
I've been super busy, but let's throw this one out for a vote.

I went thru and put the border ends on the beginning of the bevel. Except the coronada division because a small border on that bridge is too hard to see, so I over extended it. See what you think.edbeard wrote: Many of your borders cross over into water. It should be uniform where they all stop at the edge. A few specific places are Coronado - Imperial Beach, Coronado - Gaslamp, the Lemon Grove - La Mesa goes into the lake. There's a few more, but it's mostly in the south part of the map. It just gives the map a messy feel to me.
I tried to make the ocean wider there so it's more clear about the 2 separate countries. Let me know how that looks.edbeard wrote: Also relatedly, it's hard to tell if airport connects to point loma. The border drawing there makes this somewhat ambiguous. It looks like you mean for it to, but I don't like that gap you have.
I played around with a legend - it did help get rid of equal signs- , trying to keep the background pic and keep with the theme. I got to keep the dollar signs - it's my maps unique thingy. But take a look at the new legend, let me know what you think.edbeard wrote: I agree with cairns about the legend. At the least give something else a shot to fit in with the theme. I don't like the dollar signs there, but I guess it's not a huge deal.
oops. fixed.edbeard wrote: I believe the spelling is Tijuana.
Yes, most of the roads and freeways are from real map, cut up for playability. I'll read up on the XML and update it.edbeard wrote: I'm guessing all the freeways you have used are actual locations of the freeways? (obviously you took out portions for gameplay purposes)
As for your XML I haven't looked at it yet, but I did notice you were using an old way to do the bonuses for the Attractions. Go to the How to Make Map thread and there's a link in there on XML.
maybe you could keep the freeways on there so it doesn't look so cut up just on the ones with passable borders do the same as you did With TJTroyMcClure wrote:Yes, most of the roads and freeways are from real map, cut up for playability.edbeard wrote: I'm guessing all the freeways you have used are actual locations of the freeways? (obviously you took out portions for gameplay purposes)
As for your XML I haven't looked at it yet, but I did notice you were using an old way to do the bonuses for the Attractions. Go to the How to Make Map thread and there's a link in there on XML.

Ok, I minimized the tab on the ocean legend and moved part of legend to the corner. How's that look?unriggable wrote:I dont really like the building in the ocean.
Also, clarify dollars. There are a few idiots on this site.
I moved some borders around to lessen the chopped up look, but kept the freeways(red lines) where they were.magneticgoop wrote: maybe you could keep the freeways on there so it doesn't look so cut up just on the ones with passable borders do the same as you did With TJ
