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In that case, you should vote for Obama. If Palin goes back to Alaska, your plans to seduce her will be much easier to carry out, whereas the White House might be a harder nut to crack (or bust, as the case may be).hiddendragon wrote:Yea, Palin is a nut but she's a total MILF as well...I'd give her another baby to feed
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DAMN, your onto me...shhh, don't tell the feds...homesteading, here I comepimpdave wrote:In that case, you should vote for Obama. If Palin goes back to Alaska, your plans to seduce her will be much easier to carry out, whereas the White House might be a harder nut to crack (or bust, as the case may be).hiddendragon wrote:Yea, Palin is a nut but she's a total MILF as well...I'd give her another baby to feed

PopeBenXVI wrote:Well Snorril......Obama did approve sex ed for kindergardeners, so look it up. Here are some excerps of approved material from SB99 which he voted to approve. Like it or not here is the truth. Teaching kids about places a stranger should not touch you and this garbage are way different.
- A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
- A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
- A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
- Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.
- Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
- Masterbation should be done is a private place
- Some people of the same sex can be attracted to each other and fall in love.
WHAT THE %&#@ do 4-5 year olds need this crap for? Who is the radical.... Sarah who says parents should educate their kids on sex when that child is old enough or Obama who wants to reach 5 year olds about masterbating & intercourse?
Obama is often quoted as saying that when it comes to sex education in public schools, “it’s the right thing to do ... to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools,” placing an emphasis on the word "appropriate." But Obama has also said he does not support, "explicit sex education to children in kindergarten."
In a debate with Republican Alan Keyes, against whom Obama was running for an open seat in the U.S. Senate in 2004, Obama made it clear that at least one reason he supported the bill was that it would help teach young kids to recognize inappropriate behavior and pedophiles:
Keyes, Oct. 21, 2004: Well, I had noticed that, in your voting, you had voted, at one point, that sex education should begin in kindergarten, and you justified it by saying that it would be "age-appropriate" sex education. [It] made me wonder just exactly what you think is "age-appropriate."
Obama: We have a existing law that mandates sex education in the schools. We want to make sure that it's medically accurate and age-appropriate. Now, I'll give you an example, because I have a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that's the kind of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation.
Seems that teaching kids about places a stranger can not touch you is all that kindergarteners are taught. The stuff you list is likely from the part of the bill addressing later sex ed. As someone who went through Illinois schools (both public and private) from age three to eighteen, I can assure you that they didn't even mention the stuff you listed until I was an 8th grader...and let's be honest, by that point all but the most sheltered know all about that kind of crap.SB99: Course material and instruction shall discuss and provide
for the development of positive communication skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid unwanted sexual activity. ... Course material and instruction shall teach pupils ... how to say no to unwanted sexual advances ... and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one's judgment.
[BG -- CUE SFX: Sound of grasping at straws.]PopeBenXVI wrote:Unless you were in kindergarden in the last few years there you would not know what is happening right now. (unless you have kids in kindergarden) The document approved by Obama was for K-12 and did not specify what to teach in what grade to my knowledge. Again, Obama can say what he wants but it was originally for 6-12 and was then amended to include K-5 as well. Politicians say things all the time to try and make excuses but you need to ask what were his actions on this? Aparently his idea of "age approprate ed" is pretty broad.
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No surprise, that's pretty much par for the course lately.PopeBenXVI wrote:Grasping for straws sounds more like the Democrates sending 30 lawyers to Alaska to try and dig up dirt on Sarah.
Well, quite possibly, although that's true of the majority of Republicans, so that wouldn't really explain a particular dislike for Palin.PopeBenXVI wrote:It's because she does not support the multi million dollar abortion business, thats why.
Actually, a true feminist would fight for what they believe and not show preference to Palin just because she's a woman.PopeBenXVI wrote:Any true feminist would support her for her career and not slam her because she is pro life.
I don't think they have an issue with her opinion as much as the possibility that she would support a shift in the supreme court that may overturn Roe v. Wade.PopeBenXVI wrote:If they are for "Freedom of Choice" as they say.... they need to respect that her choice is to not support abortion.
Eh, Obama's no peach either. Personally, I'm sick of all the assholes with experience. I don't want a career politician running my country, he's just going to f*ck around and try to appease his party. A president has a cabinet for a reason, after all.griffin_slayer wrote:you do know that palin has executive experience and obama doesn't ... right?
I hadn't meant to imply that abortion was a feminist issue, sorry if it had seemed that way. I was only saying that a feminist, when given the chance to vote for a woman whom they disagree with, would not vote for her simply to advance "feminism".PopeBenXVI wrote:Frigidus, You are wrong about feminism. What it started for and was originally about compaired to what liberals have turned it into today are completly different. Even Susan B. Anthony one of the backbones of the sufferage/feminist movement was against abortion and even directly called it child murder & infanticide.
Yes, that right. You can be for or against abortion, but you have to give everyone the oppurtunity to decide that for themselves.PopeBenXVI wrote:You prove my point Simon. You say she would be a step back because of the abortion issue. When you say "right to choose" why don't you be more specific...choose what? Oh, the right to choose if you want to murder your baby or not....now I know what you mean.
link plz.PopeBenXVI wrote:The Democrates and feminist groups are even saying she is a backward step for women.....WHAT?
Easy. I don't think that thinking that this woman is a bad VP candidate is the same as thinking all women would be bad necessarily as a VP candidate. You;re too tied up with false assumptions (like that Sarah Palin is representative of the rest of America's female population).PopeBenXVI wrote:How can you be for the career advancement of women for so many years and preach about "breaking the glass ceiling" and not support Sarah going for the VP spot?
Bullshit. You don't seem to understand what "choice" actually means. I personally hate abortion but I still support the freedom of choice - because freedom includes the freedom to take responsibility. If you're for choice, but want to remain against abortion, the responsible course of action would not be to outlaw it but to instead try and make it a social stigma, rather than a legal one (because backstreet clinics with the falcon punch/coat hanger method will still exist).PopeBenXVI wrote:It's because she does not support the multi million dollar abortion business, thats why. Over 80% of all down syndrome babies are aborted and she stands up and shows how happy her family is with one. She is and will be cutting into their profits and they are pissed. Any true feminist would support her for her career and not slam her because she is pro life. If they are for "Freedom of Choice" as they say.... they need to respect that her choice is to not support abortion.