2009 NFL Playoffs

\\OFF-TOPIC// conversations about everything that has nothing to do with Conquer Club.

Moderator: Community Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.
User avatar
king sam
Posts: 2340
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:18 am
Gender: Male

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by king sam »

jbrettlip wrote:Where is that youtube video of Troy returning an int against the Bengals, where he levels Carson Palmer at the goal line...that was an awersome run back too.
I only pulled up videos from Interception/Fumble recoveries that resulted in TD's for this season, but I do agree that was an awesome run back.

I give credit were credit is due, Troy is great and has advantages over Ed, I just think as a QB or a team I would be more afraid to pass it in the direction of Ed Reed cause of his ball hawk and ball capability once he gets the pick. Not if he gets the pick, but once he does.
Image
User avatar
oVo
Posts: 3864
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: Antarctica

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by oVo »

Sorry Sam, I just felt any comparison of the two was kind of silly. Every offense these guys face has to consider where they are before each snap of the ball. Since you tossed out stats to substantiate some kind of moot point, I figured to add Palomalu's post season record (7-2) and mention that he is going to his second Super Bowl in six seasons as a Steeler. Which is one aspect of his credentials the magificant Reed has yet to achieve and a task that will be tougher if Ray Lewis doesn't return to Baltimore next season.

Donovan McNabb will catch shit forever by not winning a Super Bowl with the Eagles, but just like Ed Reed he has amazing stats. The Eagles have also made it to a lot of NFC Championship games with McNabb leading the offense and though he has won his share of BIG games. There will always be fans of the game who will say "McNabb can't win big games" and with his chances of winning The Championship getting slimmer all the time, he is still a great quarterback.
User avatar
pimpdave
Posts: 1083
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:15 am
Gender: Male
Location: Anti Tea Party Death Squad Task Force Headquarters
Contact:

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by pimpdave »

Playoffs sucked.
jay_a2j wrote:hey if any1 would like me to make them a signature or like an avator just let me no, my sig below i did, and i also did "panther 88" so i can do something like that for u if ud like...
User avatar
king sam
Posts: 2340
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:18 am
Gender: Male

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by king sam »

strike wolf wrote:I don't think that's a fair comparison to make when judging two players. The Steelers have had a good offense to back up their d, the Ravens' O has been questionable at best.
This guy had it right though, saying Troy has lead his team to such and such is null and void when you compare the caliber of players that surrond him in the Steelers orginization.

The Ravens dont have a Big Ben, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, or even FWP.

And while Flacco may be a new face, the before mentioned names outweigh what the Ravens have at the same skilled positions.

Yeah Troy is an anchor of that Defense, but it takes 2 sides of the ball to win a Championship, and the Ravens arent and havent been quite there on the Offense side for quite a while.

But their on their way
Image
User avatar
SEAsportsfan
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:27 pm

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by SEAsportsfan »

pimpdave wrote:Playoffs sucked.

agreed.
User avatar
oVo
Posts: 3864
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: Antarctica

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by oVo »

Yup... I'll agree that it's a team game and both Palomalu and Reed are dynamic pieces of the puzzle that helps win games. The Steelers (like the Titans and Patriots) are easily more complete teams when compared to the Ravens, where the offense definitely has a ways to go to catch up to a very dominant defense.

Flacco is a good addition to an offensive squad with a lot of potential, but the Steelers finally exposed him as the rookie he is... and that's not a bad thing. It was no surprise that in spite of his abilities he was still the weak link in the Ravens playoff run. Everyone knew that before the AFC Championship game was played, as it was the defense that has carried Baltimore all season... and who squeezed them past Tennessee. The Ravens went 0-3 against the Steelers this year and no quarter was ever given by either side though 180 minutes of football that's as tough as it gets in the NFL. The Ravens (like the Falcons) have a lot to be optomistic about as their young QB has shown a lot of promise and should only get better with time.

It's true... Troy Palomalu is just one slice of Pittsburgh's dominant defensive pie, but with his energy... he was the bigger threat last Sunday. Comparing his season stats with Reed's doesn't make much difference now that the Ravens season is finished and the Steelers are going to another Super Bowl.
pimpdave wrote: Playoffs sucked.
Particularly if you live in the northeast... or Tennessee.
User avatar
dhallmeyer
Senior SoC Training Instructor
Senior SoC Training Instructor
Posts: 7750
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:47 pm
Location: the un-nutty part of CA

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by dhallmeyer »

Simply the nature of their respective positions gives Polumalu more opportunities to wreak havoc, but also gives Reed more chances for picks -- and also pick-sixes--. Polumalu usually plays up in the box or on a tight end or RB in coverage almost like a linebacker. Reed typically gets to play centerfield or man-up on a third wr, putting him in passing routes much more often.

they play different styles, and are both outstanding at it. like measuring a WR against a Left tackle, both are valuable to the team, but which one more?
User avatar
Iz Man
Posts: 788
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:53 am
Location: Western Mass
Contact:

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by Iz Man »

dhallmeyer wrote:Simply the nature of their respective positions gives Polumalu more opportunities to wreak havoc, but also gives Reed more chances for picks -- and also pick-sixes--. Polumalu usually plays up in the box or on a tight end or RB in coverage almost like a linebacker. Reed typically gets to play centerfield or man-up on a third wr, putting him in passing routes much more often.

they play different styles, and are both outstanding at it. like measuring a WR against a Left tackle, both are valuable to the team, but which one more?
Not true.
Troy P. plays all over the field, that's what makes him harder to defend against than Reed.
He plays the run, blitzes, and covers. All exceptionally well.
Couple that with LeBeau's defensive genius, and you have the best all around safety in the league.
Image
"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
-Kaiser Wilhelm II
Image
User avatar
luns101
Posts: 2196
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:51 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Oceanic Flight 815
Contact:

Re: 2009 NFL Playoffs

Post by luns101 »

Iz Man wrote:Troy P. plays all over the field, that's what makes him harder to defend against than Reed. He plays the run, blitzes, and covers. All exceptionally well. Couple that with LeBeau's defensive genius, and you have the best all around safety in the league.
Well, when you say it like that it sounds more like James Bond & "Q" getting ready for another assignment! :shock:
Post Reply

Return to “Acceptable Content”