Sherwood Forest Mafia - Game Over, Town Wins!

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:41 pm

I can't believe you people can watch Aegnor's hypocrisy and not even have a second thought about voting Mandy.

Not to mention that Aegnor is being a jerk and calling people stupid and ruining the game by calling people stupid. I still don't know how you still consider him justified.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:41 pm

Hey instead of the scarlet "A", I could wear a Red "M"? Would that help? Oh right, not scum in either ongoing game, guess I'll have to play nude then!

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:47 pm

wicked wrote:Hey instead of the scarlet "A", I could wear a Red "M"? Would that help? Oh right, not scum in either ongoing game, guess I'll have to play nude then!

Now I'm frickin confused. however I have an excuse, it's late, and I'm off now.

I hope pancake manages to save you all from your mandyphobia, or whatever it is.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat May 05, 2007 6:47 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Shit... Is HE who my vote was on....? Jesus.... My mind has become... Boggled...

Also, the fact that this is CINCO DE MAYO means I am one drunk bitch right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unvote
Vote: Mandy Pandy

Narc, I belive that you are a Peasant, but I hope that you are mafia. If you are scum, fine it makes sense. If, however, you are pro-town, then IMO you have no longer the right to call sheep, unit_2 or anybody else a bad player. Throughout this game, you have been biching about how you have to read the posts, how the Day is long etc. Is it my fault that you haven't been able to see through first of Aegnor's dozen lame defenses, ilogical statements and namecallings?! Is it my fault that I actually want to win this game instead of just apearing in it?! Is it my fault that about 7 players are reading and participating in the game and the rest of you are just whining that you are confused and that the Day is long?!

I know that your usuall objectivity when dealing with criticism means that I have just cemented your vote, but I don't care. Because, if people will continue to play like you have, then I could tell you the names of all the mafia members instead of just the ones I know and you would still lose because of the fact that they put some effort in the game and you don't!

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:10 pm

got tonkaed wrote:easily the biggest noobs evar in that game....

anyway for fairness sake...Aegnor if you get closer to lynch will you reveal your role to the town?

I just said I would 3 times, don't skim please.
And I don't consider my defense bad. As I said before, roleclaiming at day 1 gives an immense advantage to mafia. Whoever said my defense would bad, it would have been twice as bad if I roleclaimed.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:14 pm

Aegnor truth be told, i was only doing that because wicked had done something very similar two posts above the intent wasnt hidden....so dont skim?

I dont think youve defended very well truth be told and i think your defense, if not proving that you are scum has not been very protown.....fwiw what exactly would it take to get you close to lynch. Id have to check a vote count again, but the way this game goes, if the bandwagon woke tommorow you might be in danger of being lynched before claiming (and by my estimation actually attempting a defense of yourself)

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:15 pm

And just a small reminder.
FOS Pancake for pushing a roleclaim at day1.
FOS Exlie for dodging the "win condition question" one too many times.

Mandy, well he could be a townie, no doubt. But he could be a scum or an SK just as well. Like wicked said, at this point there's a 50/50 chance for anything.

I voted Mandy because he claimed a power role, and he tries to remove a townie from the game(me). That's dangerous for the town.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:18 pm

got tonkaed wrote:Aegnor truth be told, i was only doing that because wicked had done something very similar two posts above the intent wasnt hidden....so dont skim?

I dont think youve defended very well truth be told and i think your defense, if not proving that you are scum has not been very protown.....fwiw what exactly would it take to get you close to lynch. Id have to check a vote count again, but the way this game goes, if the bandwagon woke tommorow you might be in danger of being lynched before claiming (and by my estimation actually attempting a defense of yourself)

If I don't get lynched, my chances of surviving the night are pretty slim (I suppose I'll be target both by untrusting vig, and by the mafia who probably think I have a power role).

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:21 pm

oh that's right... Aeg successfully answered the WC question. had forgotten about that. and yet Mandy still thinks he's scum? Mandy didn't seem to know the peasant WC b/c of what he said in reference to Auto's talk of it. So if Mandy didn't know the peasant WC, and doesn't seem to know the noble WC, which Aeg stated, what WC does Mandy know? hmm??

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:22 pm

i agree with some of the things youve said two posts ago....However i think pancake had good intentions...if you do have a roleclaim that kept you alive and was town oriented, that would be a good thing for the town. Exile probably shouldnt have to answer questions about win conditions on day 1 because not only was he not really in the line of fire ( i think it was a scum hiding tactic) but unlike one person (who can be protected) revealing win conditions on day 1 is bad for town and also easy to fake.

I disagree with this last post. In a 25 person game, its hard to know how the targets will be. Frankly we dont know who the extra killers (vig or sk) might be, so its hard to know their targeting prefernces. Likewise, i think if people do think you are town, then you are quite likely to have a doc over your shoulder tonight. I dont think any individual player should be use this as a line of defense, because truth be told, there are at least 10 targets in a game this size, and to play assuming that you are one of them is not helpful.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:23 pm

Aegnor wrote:And just a small reminder.
FOS Pancake for pushing a roleclaim at day1.

I never asked for a roleclaim. I asked what kind of townie you were: Peasant or Noble.

Aegnor wrote:FOS Exlie for dodging the "win condition question" one too many times.

That has to be the most hypocritical thing I've heard in my short life. You're getting on someone's case for dodging a question, while I asked you a simple Peasant or Noble question that you dodged like crazy.

Aegnor wrote:I voted Mandy because he claimed a power role, and he tries to remove a townie from the game(me). That's dangerous for the town.

If you're a townie, why dodge my question? And if mafia is trying to eliminate nobles(if that is what you were hinting earlier), why would you know that?

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:27 pm

A strategy guide on how to play mafia by wicked:

1) dont believe anything anyone says who is against you off the bat.
Wait you mean thats your evidence? Well i clearly couldnt agree to anything like that, im way too good for that logical fallicy. Thats your claim? thats absurd clearly no one else could possibly counter that clearly its fake

2) Always be catching up to the game
Sorry im a few pages behind, but ill still throw in some opinion. Wait i gotta catch up guys, but heres what i think.

3) Constantly redirect
How dare you accuse me of being scum? Thats so scummy!

4) Point out evidence that doesnt really say anything but assume its airtight
Wait you knew a win condition! clearly since this is your fifth game you couldnt possibly have guessed one by now.

5) Always disagree with the opinions of pro town leaning players.
Got Tonkaed is never right about anything.

Read this points and you will play mafia like a champion

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:30 pm

Well pancake, You can't possibly compare the question addressed to me, and the one that was addressed to Exile.
You asked me if I were Noble or Peasant 3 times, and I tried to hint you 3 times that revealing any further information would be bad to town. If you were a townie, you should have accepted my answer.
On the other hand, Exile's question, although against the spirit of the game (Noted by Aimless, altough a bit too late), would reveal his true allegiance.

And last, I have made a mistake there when I said mafia would most likely target nobles. It's just an assumption that I've made.

But then again, I will take a risk now and say that I believe that no one at this point really knows exactly how this game works, and I wouldn't want to give unneeded information that might risk the town's effort.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:31 pm

wicked wrote:oh that's right... Aeg successfully answered the WC question. had forgotten about that. and yet Mandy still thinks he's scum? Mandy didn't seem to know the peasant WC b/c of what he said in reference to Auto's talk of it. So if Mandy didn't know the peasant WC, and doesn't seem to know the noble WC, which Aeg stated, what WC does Mandy know? hmm??

Tired lol. After hunting the Merry man throughout the Day 1 you acuse me of this. *sigh*

As for Aegnor's sucessfull answer to the win condition question, he said that "He wins when all the threats to the town have been eliminated". So all of you guys who will at some pint have to eliminate more then one threat to the town, I guess he is your guy.

Peasant's and Nobles, see through his lie (quoting the winning conditions of a Vanilla Townie in the game where there are no Vanilla Townies,

why do I even have to direct your attention to this!? ) and lynch the scum.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:32 pm

hahaha... lemme fix that for ya.

1. I don't believe anything anyone says.

2. I'm caught up thanks.

3. No, I say PROVE IT .. cuz ya can't... cuz I'm not.

GT has been known to lie, so see #1.

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:32 pm

AK_iceman wrote:60 pages? I'm done for this game day. My vote stays, just lynch somebody already.

Agreed. I thought maybe this day would be over by now. The same stuff getting rehashed for the most part.

I'm tired of this day. I'm dropping the hammer on Aegnor if I get the chance. For now my vote stays on Selin.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:36 pm

No Mandy... I think they only have to look at their own WC to believe Aeg, but then again you wouldn't know that, would you?

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:37 pm

got tonkaed wrote:A strategy guide on how to play mafia by wicked:

1) dont believe anything anyone says who is against you off the bat.
Wait you mean thats your evidence? Well i clearly couldnt agree to anything like that, im way too good for that logical fallicy. Thats your claim? thats absurd clearly no one else could possibly counter that clearly its fake

2) Always be catching up to the game
Sorry im a few pages behind, but ill still throw in some opinion. Wait i gotta catch up guys, but heres what i think.

3) Constantly redirect
How dare you accuse me of being scum? Thats so scummy!

4) Point out evidence that doesnt really say anything but assume its airtight
Wait you knew a win condition! clearly since this is your fifth game you couldnt possibly have guessed one by now.

5) Always disagree with the opinions of pro town leaning players.
Got Tonkaed is never right about anything.

Read this points and you will play mafia like a champion

For wickeds last post....see strategy guide section 3 and 4

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:37 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
wicked wrote:oh that's right... Aeg successfully answered the WC question. had forgotten about that. and yet Mandy still thinks he's scum? Mandy didn't seem to know the peasant WC b/c of what he said in reference to Auto's talk of it. So if Mandy didn't know the peasant WC, and doesn't seem to know the noble WC, which Aeg stated, what WC does Mandy know? hmm??
Tired lol. After hunting the Merry man throughout the Day 1 you acuse me of this. *sigh*

As for Aegnor's sucessfull answer to the win condition question, he said that "He wins when all the threats to the town have been eliminated". So all of you guys who will at some pint have to eliminate more then one threat to the town, I guess he is your guy.

Peasant's and Nobles, see through his lie (quoting the winning conditions of a Vanilla Townie in the game where there are no Vanilla Townies, why do I even have to direct your attention to this!? ) and lynch the scum.

To that I'll say, Mandy unless you've somehow extorted Aimless, you have no idea how this specific game works. You can't disprove this claim.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:42 pm

Aegnor, you based your response those three times on an assumption you had made. One thing you should know from playing mafia is to never assume anything. I could be your mason partner and actually be scum. But you would never suspect me of being scum. I was your mason partner! No evidence of any kind should be trusted, not even cop claims. As Aimless said, this game is true to mafia, then to the legends.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:43 pm

autoload wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:60 pages? I'm done for this game day. My vote stays, just lynch somebody already.
Agreed. I thought maybe this day would be over by now. The same stuff getting rehashed for the most part.

I'm tired of this day. I'm dropping the hammer on Aegnor if I get the chance. For now my vote stays on Selin.

There is 0.01 % cahnce that Selin is going to be lynched today and that will only push the question of "Who is mafia, Aegnor or I" to tommorow, where it will choke the gameplay, because

1. I can't push for Aegnor to be lynched tommorow, since I will have to push for myself to be lynched.

2. The one who is Town between Aegnor and I could be killed this Night (while the scummy one will recive Doc protection if they have a Mafia Doc). Result: the survivor will claim that "Wine" theory of yours.

3. If you want for the day to end: vote Aegnor or me. I think that evidence on the last three pages alone should be enough, if only people would read, vote and then stand behind their vote instead of whining about how Day is long and how they are only voting so that it can end.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:45 pm

For once, I agree with Mandy.

let's not fragment votes at this point please. Vote Mandy or Mandy.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:45 pm

Saying that either you or I are mafia Mandy, is based on mere assumptions and you know it. I wouldn't buy that claim if I had half my wits.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:45 pm

Aegnor wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
wicked wrote:oh that's right... Aeg successfully answered the WC question. had forgotten about that. and yet Mandy still thinks he's scum? Mandy didn't seem to know the peasant WC b/c of what he said in reference to Auto's talk of it. So if Mandy didn't know the peasant WC, and doesn't seem to know the noble WC, which Aeg stated, what WC does Mandy know? hmm??
Tired lol. After hunting the Merry man throughout the Day 1 you acuse me of this. *sigh*

As for Aegnor's sucessfull answer to the win condition question, he said that "He wins when all the threats to the town have been eliminated". So all of you guys who will at some pint have to eliminate more then one threat to the town, I guess he is your guy.

Peasant's and Nobles, see through his lie (quoting the winning conditions of a Vanilla Townie in the game where there are no Vanilla Townies, why do I even have to direct your attention to this!? ) and lynch the scum.
To that I'll say, Mandy unless you've somehow extorted Aimless, you have no idea how this specific game works. You can't disprove this claim.

Sure I can: I know Noble's WC because I received it in my PM and I know that your WC isn't Peasants WC because I am smarter then you.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat May 05, 2007 7:45 pm

Page 69!! oh nvm, Mandy's here..