Conquer Club

karelpietertje wrote:aage, it is strange that you would like another member of the team to reveal itself, because anybody who is associated with a town supergroup is likely to get targeted by the mafia.
so, mafia would want what you seem to want. However, most mafia wouldn't be as stupid to ask for it so straightforward. so I'm a little puzzled about that.

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer, have changed little.

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

karelpietertje wrote: who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

karelpietertje wrote:another annoying thing about you and theherkman, you both only seem to react and respond to grammar and spelling issues, and unimportant parts of someones message.

karelpietertje wrote:aage, it is strange that you would like another member of the team to reveal itself, because anybody who is associated with a town supergroup is likely to get targeted by the mafia.
so, mafia would want what you seem to want. However, most mafia wouldn't be as stupid to ask for it so straightforward. so I'm a little puzzled about that.

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer[/.com], have changed little.

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

Victor Sullivan wrote:VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

aage wrote:

stefunny wrote:I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me.

You may think me mental, but why am I paranoid? Because I don't believe the twisting and turning and flaming and lynching piece of scum you guys all accept as the town hero?

Fircoal wrote:

edocsil wrote:Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie?

Since he posted his role that is too weird so that he can't be lying about it?

FloresDelMal wrote:

aage wrote:(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

VioIet wrote:Why do I think it is only the mob still pushing for my lynch?
Cough cough, haggis, aage, flores, cough cough

I gotta cold ya’ll.

Why I think vio the only one who be makin sense in here? I’ma vote for the mob, not for a wagon.

Unvote Vote Haggis

mr squirrel wrote:

mr squirrel wrote:dazerazer (11) - saxlad, iliad, aage, flores, TG, ga7, jace, haggis, edocsil, sens, spiesr

mr squirrel wrote:
Dazerazer: Chuck Lewis - Town Rapist (curable roleblocker) has been killed!

FloresDelMal wrote:

FloresDelMal wrote:

aage wrote:(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

aage you havent answered yet to my post on page 67

aage wrote:Good call, Captain Obvious. Why do you think I want to see a second member of that power group of yours? Possibly because I also need info? Because I'm not a cop? As I already said? It's the almost-ultimate test of seeing whether you're speaking the truth and I'm targeting the wrong guy. The ultimate test would be lynching you, but it seems like people are more interested in lynching Jace so that's probably not going to happen today. And since Victor's test also didn't work, this is now the only way for me to be sure.

naxus wrote:

blakebowling wrote:I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

sensfan wrote:
1. Herk, how come everyone that disagees with you must be scum? Why do you challenge aage so roughly? '
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BUT FOS HERK and EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING AAGE.

VioIet wrote: Blakebowling- who are you?

Mr. Squirrel wrote:It had been a very busy night. Gunshots and sirens were heard almost continuously and few got any sleep whatsoever. However, when morning arrived the town was surprised to see the body count was so low.

Jordan White had grown up as a sadist and many of the citizens of New Briarsburg avoided him. He had earned a few medals for his service in the military, but it was widely rumored that his great accomplishments were made by quite unethical means. He was found lying in a pool of his own blood with his chest cut open for the world to see. After searching his modest apartment, they found remote explosives and tubs of gasoline, proving without a doubt that he was part of the mafia.
Blakebowling: Jordan White - Mafia Arsonist (untrackable killer) has been killed!
Day 2 Begins!!!

aage wrote:Yes, Jace is suspicious, but for now i will still urge you all to vote theherkman. This dude has been referring to having night kill actions ALL NIGHT, not to mention his pretty. odd behavior yesterday (as in, during D1). If he's the vig, we're better off without him. If he's some other killing role, he should die. Now.

vote theherkman btw.

strike wolf wrote:Ok so from what I'm reading HUGE fos on aage for being willing to kill a vig who sucessfully killed scum. I know that information only came out after your post but you still basically said it yourself.

That being said I still want to hear from jace before I consider changing my vote.

nagerous wrote:I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.

theherkman wrote:Well my abilities are pro-town. A scum is dead and the mafia kill was thwarted. Pretty easy conclusion here...

Fircoal wrote: ACtually I will say that due to HerkyDerky's status in teh game, it actually is very scummy to vote him now. No one pro town should be trying to vote him.

theherkman wrote:I agree with everyone on this page other than, Vi. I voted Daze and kept my vote on her UNTIL she explained about the doctor. After she did, I changed my vote. I'm still suspicious of sens and now Vi. I am suspicious of others who vote me. ESPECIALLY NOW! The mafia knows I am a townie with a major role and they are upset about not being able to kill me last night. ANYONE who votes for a town power role is, quite frankly, scum.

theherkman wrote:
Let's see, what is more probable... That I can track/kill/protect/investigate/bulletproof/INSERTOTHERCOOLABILITYHERE or that different people in the group have different abilities and that together we can formulate a plan during the night on how to use our actions? Hmm?

ga7 wrote:Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?
Vote Aage and FOS Vio for the same reason. It should be obvious to anyone Herk is town and unfortunately the spokesman for his group seemingly, and was a likely target for scum although a number of other things could have happened. To try to push another opinion at this point is scummy, especially since it seems town has a large paved way to get rid of scum if there's mason groups, hopefully extensible. If it started as a group with more than one it's most likely of stable size however. It can be many options either way so your argument holds no water.
I'd like to put a leash on this though, Herk you're getting overexcited and paranoid again. Don't forget to use logic

TheSaxlad wrote:After reading the pages above:

unovte vote aage

reasons above in the last 3 pages.

edocsil wrote:Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie? This is really beginning to bother me. He did some wacked shit yesterday and is starting it up again today, and when he is presented with a logical argument he flames. And then by magic everyone agrees with him and jumps on his OMGUS wagon

Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.

What is going on here?

Victor Sullivan wrote:VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

naxus wrote:for one. THM is once again full of alot of fluff. Today his fluff is a little less and arguments are seeping through but Damn man.

I agree with Flow and Strike( I think it was you) that we need to know his group name/classification or whatever.

With a game this big, its not nearly so simple as Town V Mafia. While those two are the prominent factions, there could be quite a few factions. These could be multiple mafias, cult, survivor groups and lonely third party. So while yes we killed someone evil last night, thats not to say they were mafia but could've been one of many different factions.

Aage while your agrument seems strange im still suspicious of THM. FOS AAGE and HERK

Stefunny85 wrote:I'm confused. I think both Herk and Aage have arguments that are like swissscheeeeeese (full of holes?)
I think Jace still seems like the lynch we need to look at. Perhaps either Herk or aage is trying to take the heat off of Jace?
Unfortunately Herk DID fos Blake from the beginning which still makes me think he knows more than he is letting on. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen but as of right now all I can say is he correctly predicted a scum. I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me. Especially when they say things like "You'll soon find out". However I think at this point we have no more or less evidence against either one.

Vote Jace

ga7 wrote:Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.

You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!

There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.

Flow520 wrote:Aage's near suicidal actions just make me think that aage is holding out on a specific piece of info on theherkman.

Flow520 wrote:But barring a more specific claim by aage against theherkman, my vote is leaning towards aage.

Commander9 wrote:@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here..

Flow520 wrote:I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

/ wrote:However there is still a chance you are wrong, which is why so many are voting you, it's either "kill that guy to prove he's not a witch" or "make the undercover agent come out into the open so we know he exists" if herk is scum, we will probably find out later in the game, when there are fewer people and less room for lies, however with so many potential scum it is ignorant to test one's claims too far....
fos Aage again


but I'd rather follow up a few other leads for now

one, Naxus

naxus wrote:

blakebowling wrote:I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

huh, from my perspective this carries an unnecessary urgency, why did you react so strongly to blake "claiming"?
Note: that scum possibly didn't know each other role at this point since no night talk could have happened, is it possible a scum mate thought it was a real claim?
Note 2: blake had no vote on him at this point in the game, ever, why did you assume he was being voted?



Another, Snes
yeah actually I sort of agree with you last post, actually i would say I rather like it, glad to see you are really playing now! except for one thing

sensfan wrote:
1. Herk, how come everyone that disagees with you must be scum? Why do you challenge aage so roughly? '
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BUT FOS HERK and EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING AAGE.

uhh so when herk generalizes an entire group it sucks, but it's ok to assume everyone who finds aage suspicious is scum?
also you didn't respond to the wagon on you at all yesterday, instead only showing up to vote daze, (and just that, content or no text, just a bandwagon) what's up with that?


I'll hold off on voting a little more, PS, might be a bit busy tomorrow,
Gobble Gobble

Commander9 wrote:Personally, I'd like for Herk to answer some of the questions that me and others have also posted, instead of fluffing and going off on everyone.

Flow520 wrote:

Flow520 wrote:Aage's near suicidal actions just make me think that aage is holding out on a specific piece of info on theherkman.

Flow520 wrote:But barring a more specific claim by aage against theherkman, my vote is leaning towards aage.

Commander9 wrote:@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here..

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

Stefunny85 wrote:To be fair The Herkmans reverse claim on aage isn't very specific either.

Flow520 wrote:As pointed out earlier, it would be really helpful if theherkman would give us more information or even the name/classification of his group. Granted, I can certainly understand his argument about not revealing the members of his group, but I just feel that we need more proof. I'm leaning towards the group being more a non-recruiting mason type deal.

karelpietertje wrote:
my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer, have changed little.

karelpietertje wrote:another annoying thing about you and theherkman, you both only seem to react and respond to grammar and spelling issues, and unimportant parts of someones message.

anyway, I meant Jace, not dazerazer. however, I just found that (s)he did post on day 2, so I don't really suspect him/her anymore, even though (s)he still hasn't really contributed.

commander9 wrote:FoS Vioiet for being a bit too inactive lately.

Victor Sullivan wrote:

Victor Sullivan wrote:VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

Alright, this time it's for realz: vote theherkman. You still haven't answered my questions, so my vote stays on you 'til you stop posting meaningless comments (insulting freezie? Really?) and actually answer my damn questions. For the record, I still believe your town, but this is f*cking bull sh*t, herk, seriously...

-Sully's a little mad (in both ways)