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Gawd No one is claiming he is the recruiter for the billionth time.He keep s claiming that he is being claimed as the recruiter.Marashu wrote:I did confirm that I am allowed to paraphrase win condition as long as I don't quote it. Should I disclose it?
fp'd by Storr
As much as Storr is a big question mark right now, I have to agree that I don't think he's the recruiter.

Why the f*ck you keep talking as if you are being accused of being the recruiter? I am suggesting you could easily be a faction that has others besides Town as a win condition. You may not be recruiter but you most certainly could help Cult win if it actually came to that.StorrZerg wrote:yet im clealry not the recruiting because i all ready have a role thats been confirmed, and its not a 5 part role. So start actually looking for someone thats scum.
The case against marashu did not start form your random comment. Have you even read my case? Part of the case has to do with how he pushed you yesterday, and how he was taking advantage of our fighting, and guess what he is starting to do that again today!
not to mention, i would have no reason to be trying to recruit someone like ib, when id much rather recruit mtamb for shits and giggles. + i would have laid a hint for him so that he would have said yes lol? to which he would have.
sure it is your guys fault. your not evolving with this game, I was told to shut up and quiet down, i did for a bit, nothing changed, the inactive people feel no real pressure to actually do anything.

aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.

It was my fault in this case; I did actually suggest that it's possible that he's the recruiter, not because I think it's likely, but because Storr's actions fit better as third party than as part of a sole scum faction.Iron Butterfly wrote:Why the f*ck you keep talking as if you are being accused of being the recruiter? I am suggesting you could easily be a faction that has others besides Town as a win condition. You may not be recruiter but you most certainly could help Cult win if it actually came to that.StorrZerg wrote:yet im clealry not the recruiting because i all ready have a role thats been confirmed, and its not a 5 part role. So start actually looking for someone thats scum.
The case against marashu did not start form your random comment. Have you even read my case? Part of the case has to do with how he pushed you yesterday, and how he was taking advantage of our fighting, and guess what he is starting to do that again today!
not to mention, i would have no reason to be trying to recruit someone like ib, when id much rather recruit mtamb for shits and giggles. + i would have laid a hint for him so that he would have said yes lol? to which he would have.
sure it is your guys fault. your not evolving with this game, I was told to shut up and quiet down, i did for a bit, nothing changed, the inactive people feel no real pressure to actually do anything.
I WILL agree about the inactives.
unvoteMarashu wrote:Ok. This should hopefully clear away the last of the doubt any townies have about my alignment. For me to win, the journey needs to succeed. Doesn't say anything about eliminating shadowspawn or threats to the town or anything.

I am torn on this. There have been reasoned posts as to why Marashu is scummy, small and superficial things. His win condition clears nothing up though it does support my theory on cult. His vote makes no sense this late in game. My win condition states my alignment and who I need to defeat. I suspect that cult can only recruit players with win conditions such as Mars. When I speak of cult I am speaking of Darkness.Marashu wrote:Ok. This should hopefully clear away the last of the doubt any townies have about my alignment. For me to win, the journey needs to succeed. Doesn't say anything about eliminating shadowspawn or threats to the town or anything.
Unvote - if we're not lynching Storr today, I am willing to lynch someone else.
Vote GT


Your case against him is that he found End's soft claim too quickly. Why would a scum post the soft claim if that's the reason they killed him? Scum would rather leave you wondering what happened, while a town would post interesting info he found.StorrZerg wrote:Hotshot you n3ed to explain in a bit more detail how you are town reading Marashu

Other than the 2 reads I have left to do, you can compare mine and his reads if you want, or sometime tonight I can go look at them again.StorrZerg wrote:Your not explaining what I want, so I'll be more specific.
So I want more detailed reasoning on his reads you like, which ones stand out etc. Not just a blanket statement because his read on mets was terrible. It added nothing and it seemed very opportunistic.
I've caught my fair share of scum for knowing to much about night kills. I'd gladly hear your thoughts on why endgame died when he was likely a person to be forced to claim today.
So are you voting based on this quote or?Metsfanmax wrote:unvoteMarashu wrote:Ok. This should hopefully clear away the last of the doubt any townies have about my alignment. For me to win, the journey needs to succeed. Doesn't say anything about eliminating shadowspawn or threats to the town or anything.
vote Marashu
Maybe different town have different win conditions depending on who they are... the mod kind of forgot to give me a win condition in my role PM, but since apparently he's ok with us talking about win conditions I just asked him what mine is, and it matches what marashu said. So I am more convinced than before that marashu is town.Iron Butterfly wrote:I am torn on this. There have been reasoned posts as to why Marashu is scummy, small and superficial things. His win condition clears nothing up though it does support my theory on cult. His vote makes no sense this late in game. My win condition states my alignment and who I need to defeat. I suspect that cult can only recruit players with win conditions such as Mars. When I speak of cult I am speaking of Darkness.Marashu wrote:Ok. This should hopefully clear away the last of the doubt any townies have about my alignment. For me to win, the journey needs to succeed. Doesn't say anything about eliminating shadowspawn or threats to the town or anything.
Unvote - if we're not lynching Storr today, I am willing to lynch someone else.
Vote GT
I have no doubt about what Storr can do.I defended and believed him day 1. Day 2 changed. I will be first to admit that if he is lying about his alignment(3P) I fear what he could become. Mafia is a game of BS and lying.
Vote Marushu
A moment's reflection should point out how obviously wrong this is. The entire basis of my play up to that point was that Storr was scum, and that we were likely to hit town. I said that I wanted Storr's target to get lynched precisely because I expected that Storr's target would flip town, bolstering my point that Storr was scum so that we could lynch him on D2.HotShot53 wrote: 12.Metsfanmax - Got into a big fight with storr day 1, from which storr town reads him. Voted streaker because he wanted to just go along with whomever storr wanted to lynch (sheeping),
Storr answered this point sufficiently. I am not an idiot. The last thing I would do as scum there is to draw attention to myself by unvoting when I had already switched on to Storr's case and said I wanted Storr's pick to be lynched. Streaker was clearly going to die at that point unless something miraculous happened, so what did it gain me?then after the claim unvoted and gave reasons he believe the claim, even though wing stated definitively that it was a fake claim.
Yes, and I acknowledged that there might be a seeming contradiction between the two stances. I don't think there was in context, because I was actually going hard against Storr and making a serious, game-long case out of it; most of the other people today have made half-hearted votes and not defended them further even as the day evolved. But even if I did change my stance when the circumstances changed (something I try not to do), that's not alignment indicative; it doesn't take being scum to want to be right.Makes the statement that we are going to lynch storr or marashu today, anything else is wasting time. Although on day 1, he said "Also, lol at your argument against lone voters. That's a great attitude: never start a case against someone new, just sheep on what other people are doing."
I don't like saying someone is confirmed town when the "confirmation" is themselves saying it a lot based on disputed circumstances. I have been exonerated as town by multiple players (implicitly or explicitly) this game, without any real dispute about those circumstances, and you are one of the only people who is doubting it at this time. So the point here is that you'd better have a good reason to go after me.When I gave him a FOS for the statement, he defends himself by stating "basically no one is doubting my town affiliation at this point in the game", doing what he didn't like storr doing of stating he's confirmed town basically.
I obviously intended not to say why I am voting based on that, but since you are saying that your win condition is consistent with his, I will not say that it is not consistent with mine. (Maybe you are both scum?)Switches his vote back to marashu by quoting marashu's giving his win condition.