2010 Adjacent Attacks Tournament - Winner: OliverFA

[army of nobunaga]

hahahaha

you're a wizard harry!!!!!!!

[jcstriker]

ok i dont think lord voldemort would intentionally cheat, clearly he misunderstood the rules, so accusing him of cheating is probably not accurate.
secondly the punishment for violating the rules are
-- Violation of Adjacent Attacks rule ---
I will NOT be monitoring these games for rule violations, so players should feel free to PM me if there is a rule violation that needs to be addressed. I have chosen to make all of these games sunny in order to make it easier to track movements. Minor rule violations should be addressed by the players in the game and a consensus should be formed on how to proceed with correcting the error. You can always PM me to give suggestions on fixing the rule violation, and I reserve the right to make a final ruling if the players cannot agree. If the violation affects gameplay (takes away a bonus or otherwise majorly impacts a player), then 1 point will be deducted from the violator's final score. Major rule violations (such as a kill run or serial rule violation) will lead to removal from the tournament and your tournament ranking will be removed. I reserve the right to make the final ruling on all rules violations, regardless of the guidelines listed here.


i think in this case 1point should be deducted. just my opinion, but if it happens again then more serious actions should be taken. as for eddie if being tapped affected his chance of winning maybe the point deducted should be given to eddie

[jcstriker]

well i kinda have to agree with eddie2, tapping = attacking, and for that reason not allowed.

you won 2 games? if you used tapping in these games aswell then you should be removed or getting stripped of your points.
tapping clearly makes a difference to a game.

thank you for agreeing you brought this point about the other games as well i think he has been by what he is saying in this thread.

if unproven then not worth discussing, PROVE IT, then post ur findings, dont speculate

[eddie2]

well i kinda have to agree with eddie2, tapping = attacking, and for that reason not allowed.

you won 2 games? if you used tapping in these games aswell then you should be removed or getting stripped of your points.
tapping clearly makes a difference to a game.

thank you for agreeing you brought this point about the other games as well i think he has been by what he is saying in this thread.

if unproven then not worth discussing, PROVE IT, then post ur findings, dont speculate

yes i agree with this but by some of the things he is saying it could be that he has done it before

[lord voldemort]

exactly...where is your proof eddie just because i say something does not make it true...i want screen shots as proof...
heck i dont even think you had a stack in that midkemdil game..you are just making it up

tbh i dont think i should loose any points...as it did not effect the overall results at all if it even is a rule violation

[eddie2]

exactly...where is your proof eddie just because i say something does not make it true...i want screen shots as proof...
heck i dont even think you had a stack in that midkemdil game..you are just making it up

tbh i dont think i should loose any points...as it did not effect the overall results at all if it even is a rule violation

lol the game log tells you i had a stack and since you know i cannt screen shot you now bring this into it. also calling it tapping saying it is allowd because its not a attack you have said it your self that you done it

[jcstriker]

well i kinda have to agree with eddie2, tapping = attacking, and for that reason not allowed.

you won 2 games? if you used tapping in these games aswell then you should be removed or getting stripped of your points.
tapping clearly makes a difference to a game.

thank you for agreeing you brought this point about the other games as well i think he has been by what he is saying in this thread.

if unproven then not worth discussing, PROVE IT, then post ur findings, dont speculate

yes i agree with this but by some of the things he is saying it could be that he has done it before

well he claims to be an honest person so im sure he will admitt to this if it is indeed the case, but who ever he tapped shoulda monitored their game more closely and pointed it out. Lord can not be punished if the affected player fails to notice, i understand ur frustration eddie and if it happened to me id want a point deducted and added to my total

[eddie2]

it was me and pink and i did moniter it because i was just deploying to get a higher placement keeping my borders safe. he new the rules but according to him tapping is not attacking

[lord voldemort]

pretty sure the game log doesnt mention troop counts...

[eddie2]

no but it does mention my deploy with nothing availible to attack and no reinforce and also these comments

2010-05-08 20:08:33 - lord voldemort: well it makes little difference for this game...and ive only been in 2 others...
2010-05-08 20:08:47 - lord voldemort: 1 i won fair and square..the other is in progress
2010-05-08 20:11:42 - lord voldemort: and get over yourself eddie...i have had this game sown up for close to 10 rounds

fair enough he was going to win it but since thiis is placement for points there is no excuse if it got to a 1 v 1 i would of said finish it in one as i have in 1 game before

[jcstriker]

exactly...where is your proof eddie just because i say something does not make it true...i want screen shots as proof...
heck i dont even think you had a stack in that midkemdil game..you are just making it up

tbh i dont think i should loose any points...as it did not effect the overall results at all if it even is a rule violation

not being involved in the game, i cant comment on how the tapping woulda affected the overall outcome of the game, i do however believe eddie was tapped as previously admitted by lord (whom was unaware of the rule) and i think now trying to deny the tapping and ask for proof in this particular game is unsporting, just as it was unsporting of eddie to accuse lord of tapping in other games with no proof,
i believe the person hosting the tournament is gonna hv to make a call on this incident,

[lord voldemort]

sarcasm doesnt work well on the internet...
im just asking eddie to prove his claims...
lol

[eddie2]

exactly...where is your proof eddie just because i say something does not make it true...i want screen shots as proof...
heck i dont even think you had a stack in that midkemdil game..you are just making it up

tbh i dont think i should loose any points...as it did not effect the overall results at all if it even is a rule violation

anothger thing so u cant delete

[army of nobunaga]

lol i have nothing to hide eddie...
you see as a moderator you kinda have higher moral standards than to go and edit something

i doubt i will be kicked out of the tourny...i have played 4 games...won 2 lost 1 badly and am middle ground of the one im in now...
the highlighted writting is definately up for interpretation....as attacking is different than tapping.

higher morals.. what a fucking putz... go back to snape for potions or something kiddo.

The log clearly shows you are a fucking cheater.


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[Night Strike]

Alright, the issue has been stated. The TO said he'd make a reply on the issue on Monday, so I'm going to leave the thread locked for a while.

EDIT: By the way, if you're not in the tournament, you have no reason to be posting in the thread about the issue. Only the people in the tournament and the Directors, if necessary, should be discussing tournament problems.

[OliverFA]

well i kinda have to agree with eddie2, tapping = attacking, and for that reason not allowed.

you won 2 games? if you used tapping in these games aswell then you should be removed or getting stripped of your points.
tapping clearly makes a difference to a game.

In my humble opinion, it is very clear. Tapping = Attacking. Attacking is any kind of action that involves fight, combat, or wathever we want to call it. Also, as a result of tapping, armies are lost. This is a violation of the AA rule.

I monitor taping in my games when I can, but it is quite difficult because it leaves no trace in the log, and comparing with BOB screenshots sometimes takes lots of time.

All players should be monitoring the rules, because it's easy to break them.

[lord voldemort]

ok im happy to accept that tapping = attacking but imo they are not the same. And no where was that stated

[eddie2]

ok im happy to accept that tapping = attacking but imo they are not the same. And no where was that stated

omg lv so you agree that tapping is attacking. but you are still saying that this is the fault of the tourney organiser for not saying no tapping. he does state that there is no attacking from concured areas. this is just highlighting your arrogance even more blaming the organiser for your wrong move.

my eight year old daughter understands this rule.

and before you say it yes i have done this in my first match of the tournement and what response did i make to the player i done this to. appologised for it as all other players who make a mistake do. not pass the blame for it onto somone else. anyways this has now been resolved. (pitty we cant sort out the arrogance side of it)

[eddie2]

well i kinda have to agree with eddie2, tapping = attacking, and for that reason not allowed.

you won 2 games? if you used tapping in these games aswell then you should be removed or getting stripped of your points.
tapping clearly makes a difference to a game.

In my humble opinion, it is very clear. Tapping = Attacking. Attacking is any kind of action that involves fight, combat, or wathever we want to call it. Also, as a result of tapping, armies are lost. This is a violation of the AA rule.

I monitor taping in my games when I can, but it is quite difficult because it leaves no trace in the log, and comparing with BOB screenshots sometimes takes lots of time.

All players should be monitoring the rules, because it's easy to break them.

hi oliver it can leave a log trace in the game like this game if it was looked at straight away because i was just deploying with my borders protected and not forting out so to come back with 1 troup on the tert does show it in the log.

[riodeishere]

ok im happy to accept that tapping = attacking but imo they are not the same. And no where was that stated

now thats a weird reply. because he says: no attacking from newly conquered territories..
as tapping=attacking, it just aint allowed. period.

i know you dont want to take blame.. nobody likes that, but its just the truth

[lord voldemort]

what i mean by it is that for the tournament you want to accept tapping as attackign then i have to cop it....
see it from my view...i play 90% team games
if someone said tap in the game log...i tap.
if someone says attack then i attack....they are 2 different things. anyone who has played high level team games would understand this

[eddie2]

what i mean by it is that for the tournament you want to accept tapping as attackign then i have to cop it....
see it from my view...i play 90% team games
if someone said tap in the game log...i tap.
if someone says attack then i attack....they are 2 different things. anyone who has played high level team games would understand this

ok accepted as a sort of appology.

lv i have played a few high level team games and ok

i have not came across tap our team use (cut back or lower it)

for attack we use take him out

and anyway in most high quality team games you do not have to say anything at all because you and your team work as a unit and understand what is needed.

(please let my team take yours on as i only play 20% team games and we are roughly on the same amount of games and i have a higher medal count easy points.especially since you play 90%)

now have fun tapping your way around and gl in future games.

[eddie2]

now anyways this has gave me a good idea how about setting up some team games adjacent attacks points work the same but maybe a extra 2 points per player on the winning team

[army of nobunaga]

ok im happy to accept that tapping = attacking but imo they are not the same. And no where was that stated

now thats a weird reply. because he says: no attacking from newly conquered territories..
as tapping=attacking, it just aint allowed. period.

i know you dont want to take blame.. nobody likes that, but its just the truth

he doesnt want to take blame because he isnt a man.. you guys caught a kid cheating.

lol

[lord voldemort]

please dont tell me eddie you just challenged me to a team game.....because if you havent heard of the term tapping and you dont use game chat i will gladly teach you a lesson