Crusades Mafia The English and a Survior Win!

[Commander9]

How much do we need till lynch and what are the votes so far?

[naxus]

unvote vote jace22

Jace has 4 votes needs three for kill

[aage]

In that case, some more pressure can't hurt.
unvote vote jace.

Thought, I don't want to lose VioIet out of the picture, with her fircoal-doesnt-read-his-role-he-must-be-scum-theory.

[edocsil]

Votes


Fircoal (1) ~ VioIet
Tailgunner (1) ~ Iliad,
TheSaxlad (2) ~ /, Commander
Jace (5) ~ Tailgunner, TheSaxlad, Victor, Naxus, Aage

13 alive 7 to lynch. Jace is at L-2

[Fircoal]

unvote vote Jace22

Scummarining. Only has 4 posts. His first 2 were in/confirm, and 3rd was a joke vote. His only serious vote was:

Yeah I agree with aage with this. VioIet I'm pretty sure you should assume someone knows what their role is
unvote vote VioIet.
Also, can we get a vote update

Which is really an easy point to make against Violet with her ridiculous "fir didn't read his role" theory, so he appears to be contributing to the thread. I'm thinking scum or 3rd party especially, to fly under the radar.

-Tails

Tails makes a good point, and I think it's the best we have to go off of right now. Unvote, vote Jace22. I think it's role-claim time, scummariner

-Sully

That was too early, but now it's looking like roleclaim timezel

[Commander9]

Unvote. Vote jace.

Basically, what others said.

[Thezzaruz]

Yea a claim seems in order now. Would be good if people could refrain from hammering until Jace have responded (unless he decides not to).


FoS Commander, you seem to be a bit too interested in a quick lynch instead of a good lynch.

[Commander9]

Yea a claim seems in order now. Would be good if people could refrain from hammering until Jace have responded (unless he decides not to).


FoS Commander, you seem to be a bit too interested in a quick lynch instead of a good lynch.

May you build up on that? (Including to what I've posted before) I'm not taking any offence, just curious why you'd say that.

[VioIet]

I am back!!!!
Back in Town!!!
I am glad that i didn't miss much action. Just a very random-completely-out-of-nowhere-wagon on jace.

So whoa, what is with the bandwagon on jace. Sax… weren’t you against Victor or me for a bit and now you are all on jace? Once again you are vote swinging. For whomever seems to be the easy target at the moment?
Sax….lad never claimed. He simply said he had a chance to investigate before the game started- and he found that Tails motives are for town.
The mafia know who the town is and who the mafia are by default. Sax never once said he is a cop-type character. So it wasn’t really a role-claim. Why are people just buying that he has these investigative abilities? Sax has given no reason for us to believe him.

I still don’t appreciate the Victor mixup there sax. You never even tried to EDWOP.

Sorry, I am not with this random jace bandwagon.

Unvote Vote Sax

[Thezzaruz]

May you build up on that? (Including to what I've posted before) I'm not taking any offence, just curious why you'd say that.

L-2 is a good place for a claim whereas L-1 is just an invite for a quick scum hammer.

[Commander9]

L-2 is a good place for a claim whereas L-1 is just an invite for a quick scum hammer.

But have you seen what Jace has posted? Exactly, not all that much. Not saying that he's a guaranteed scum, but he's not contributing much and it's Day 1, so sometimes the town does miss. So far, he looks possibly the scummiest, so I think it's logical.

Or are you saying you should never lynch anyone, because if you vote when L-2 you need your role claim and if you vote L-1, you're a scum?

[Thezzaruz]

Or are you saying you should never lynch anyone

Of course we should. But there is a difference in applying pressure to get a claim/slip up and just moving in for the kill, you did the latter without giving a good reason.

[Commander9]

Of course we should. But there is a difference in applying pressure to get a claim/slip up and just moving in for the kill, you did the latter without giving a good reason.

I do think that there's a good reason (as stated above) or do you want me to ctrl+c/ctrl+v what was written above or paraphrase it? I think it has been mentioned enough times and I've voted. Jace has been quite inactive and hasn't contribute anything and seems as good lynch as anyone else. If you would also notice, my vote wasn't the lynching one and even with 1 vote left, he still hasn't responded?

[aage]

Commande9, you don't seem to get it... If you want an example of a quickhammer at L-1 look at the "silly mafia game" by Haggis, page 1/2. That's the kind of thing that happens.

Also, you could have also said "I agree, Jace defend yourself" instead of moving along on the bandwagon. It seems as if you almost want to be sure you are 100% against Jace, which in case of you both being scum would be a fairly strategic move and therefore very scummy. There simply was no reason to add more pressure than L-2.

As on the part where he hasn't responded, there can be various reasons for that. But there wasn't much time between your vote and the previous one (which happens to be mine, I believe) so now you're just conjuring up arguments that aren't there. That might be even more scummy than Jace's absence.

For now let's just see what Jace has to say though.

[Commander9]

Unvote.

That example was a cruel indeed. Didn't want that to be the lynching vote, but I did thought that he was quite scummy (although, i have to admit, that was only after a certain reference). I'm fine to wait till he has an explanation...

[Thezzaruz]

I do think that there's a good reason (as stated above) or do you want me to ctrl+c/ctrl+v what was written above or paraphrase it?

There is enough of a case to apply pressure but, IMO at least, not enough for a direct lynch. If you want to skip the claim/defend stage, as your actions implied you wanted to, then you need to offer up an explanation to why you're in such a hurry.

If you would also notice, my vote wasn't the lynching one

In some situations adding the second to last vote is scummier than being the one that hammers tbh.

and even with 1 vote left, he still hasn't responded?

The vote race begun yesterday ffs, have some patience mate.

[naxus]

How long are we willing to wait for Jace? I say another day then someone hammer

[Commander9]

Fair enough. I can definitely see where you're coming from. That leaves me with one thing:

/hides.

[edocsil]

Jace has been prodded.

[Iliad]

Following on from my last post I had a chance to search someone before the game started, one of edocs twists i spose, and i wanted a scum tell so I searched tails.

His motives are for the town. Not against.

This is my reasoning, plus VioIet seems to be wanting tails off pretty bad, perhaps she got what i did as a scum?

Im not a raving loony trust me on this one.

For this I want to vote you, but I'll leave my vote on tails.

There is no town. There are different factions, there would be some indifferent survivors and some mafia(s). However there is no town. Not only does your claim sound paper thin, it seems like tails is on your faction and you just want to protect him from a lynch.

I'm not too sure whether you're actually in a selfish faction that needs to take down everyone else but I'm damn suspicious of you now.

Also the moment a vote appeared on another person you took the opportunity to hop on the wagon and hope the lynch lands on jace, instead of your teammate tails.

unvote vote jace22

for reasons above, and we need a kill.

In short, explain how you and tails are connected.

[TheSaxlad]

If I have to I will tomorrow.

[Jace22]

just go ahead and lynch me. I don't really have a defense. I have mainly been trying to figure out the twist in this game, but I got very little(as edoc did say that wasn't as simple as scum vs town). The only thing I thought of was everyone is both town and scum, and all you need to do to win is eliminate the other side.

[VioIet]

I believe you Jace. Your defense sounds similar to the one I gave in the Quentin game. And I do like to meta game. You would never say that if you were scum.

But yeah the mod did say this isn't a simple Town vs Mafia game.
Some have suggested that there is no mafia but just different town factions. And I guess each town wants to be the only town remaining, and thus, tries to get rid of the other town factions.
I am unsure on this.

I think every player has certain win conditions, and we are to try to lynch whomever gets in the way of those conditions.

[Haggis_McMutton]

just go ahead and lynch me. I don't really have a defense. I have mainly been trying to figure out the twist in this game, but I got very little(as edoc did say that wasn't as simple as scum vs town). The only thing I thought of was everyone is both town and scum, and all you need to do to win is eliminate the other side.

Uhm, why the hell would you want to be lynched?
Can you just not be bothered to play anymore?

[Jace22]

I just thought that may have been a crappy reason for not posting anything that was all.