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InkL0sed
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thegreekdog wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Several points:

While I don't think the members of Congress are excused for their role in voting for the war, the reason why what Bush did was worse is that Bush and crew lied to go to war (and had been looking for a reason to invade from the beginning), while the members of Congress were duped, as well as pressured by the mood of the times to make heads roll. That doesn't excuse them, but it's certainly on a different level of "horrible, horrible evil".
Wait, what? Bush lied? Who did he lie to? Did he lie to Congress? Where did we get this information?
What, are you living under a rock?
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InkL0sed wrote:What, are you living under a rock?
Apparenty I am.

http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/

I'm not an apologist and I'm against the War in Iraq. I read the article... not sure where he knowingly lied. Most of the "lies" are determined after the fact, i.e. "President Bush said X, but we later learned Y." That's not really lying unless the president knew he was lying. It's probably splitting hairs at this point, but I think before we acuse the guy of lying we should see if he actually lied. I tend to think, based on my reading that he didn't lie so much as get bad information from the CIA (which makes me pretty worried about that organization).
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Bush should be tried and hung for war crimes,so should the vice prez and the rest of his cabnit members.

Blame bush for a useless war in iraq,he is the cause for 9/11,the goverment let it happen.....

Just glad duche bag is out
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thegreekdog wrote:I'm not an apologist and I'm against the War in Iraq. I read the article... not sure where he knowingly lied. Most of the "lies" are determined after the fact, i.e. "President Bush said X, but we later learned Y." That's not really lying unless the president knew he was lying. It's probably splitting hairs at this point, but I think before we acuse the guy of lying we should see if he actually lied. I tend to think, based on my reading that he didn't lie so much as get bad information from the CIA (which makes me pretty worried about that organization).
He was getting good information from some channels, bad information from others. From what I've read, the sources of the bad information weren't entirely credible, and some members of the intelligence agencies were trying to say so.

So did Bush lie? No. Did he chose to accept the information that fit his agenda, and disregard more trustworthy sources to the contrary? Yes. So he may or may not have been a liar (I don't know the guy), but he definitely wasn't a very good "decider".

I actually don't think G.W. Bush is a bad person. Those who have gotten to know him from both sides of the political aisle speak quite well of him - even the farthest left leaning members of his press corps call him very personable, sincere, and approachable. That said, I don't think he's the wisest choice our country has ever made to be the "leader of the free world."
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