WWII Operation Iwo Jima [Quenched]

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:22 am

The small map doesn't look half as good as the larger one. I would do what andy suggested and maybe shrink the map tools down a bit. They give a good touch to the map and I would like to see them stay.

I'm not sure if you've got to bonuses yet, but blue and brownish-grey are never going to be controlled. Any chance at seeing an extra bonus for controlling the tunnels?

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:43 pm

here new update, i resize object and put shadow to look like real, and remowe flags becouse in military maps you dont have flags.

I think that look great.

Ninja-Town · Post by **Ninja-Town** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:08 pm

Sorry if this was asked, but are your alternative plan A and plan B mixed up.. the colors don't match the key.

Great looking map quert... good job.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:20 pm

i think now you deleted the flags the text "W.W Rogers ... AC of S, G-3" can be lowered a bit

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:55 pm

Thanks Ninja again my mistake, i dont se these, its mistake in Legend.
Wisse i will do these in next update
I finish XTML for small version of map.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:07 pm

Test results:
</map> - Opening and ending tag mismatch: continent line 81 and map

- Premature end of data in tag map line 2

Summary: 0 warnings and 2 errors detected

XML checking code provided by Jota

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What these mean?

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:26 pm

Ok i fix these, but i have a problem, when i tested map, army numers dont stand in terittory and all go up, its these a problem with tested program or what?

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:59 pm

Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:04 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

"Hill 362/382" is gray/blue

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:06 pm

Wisse wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

"Hill 362/382" is gray/blue

Yes I told you I am colour blind. But yes it looks grey to me as well. I just find the colour very similar to the Pink area.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:39 pm

Ruben, the diferent against color its big, and if you have problem with eye(you say that "I am mild colour blind")and you mix colors, i realy dont know how to help you, becouse if i put some other colors, maybe you again mix colors, and i dont think that in CC have more people who have these problems. I hope that you dont be

.

Somebody knows of these tested problems?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:40 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Wisse wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

"Hill 362/382" is gray/blue

Yes I told you I am colour blind. But yes it looks grey to me as well. I just find the colour very similar to the Pink area.

i hope qwert can do something about it

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:08 pm

qwert wrote:Ruben, the diferent against color its big, and if you have problem with eye(you say that "I am mild colour blind")and you mix colors, i realy dont know how to help you, becouse if i put some other colors, maybe you again mix colors, and i dont think that in CC have more people who have these problems. I hope that you dont be .

Somebody knows of these tested problems?

You mean that I am the only colour blinded person who plays CC? Well think again because I am not.

You can just make one of them lighter or darker. I have problems with only two of the colours...not all of them!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:02 pm

Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

Now i have problems with eye. What colors its PINK and PURPLE, please explaine to me.

Somebody, who knows what hepend with tester, why numbers all go up in map.

adam3b58 · Post by **adam3b58** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:49 pm

how about some sort of tangible bonus for holding Mt. Suribachi?

luckiekevin · Post by **luckiekevin** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:36 pm

Hi Qwert,

Amazing job on this map thus far. I can't wait to play it. Just so you know, the two colors that Ruben is having trouble with are actually very common colors that people with color blindness have trouble differentiating. Color blindness is far more common then most people realize and I actually have two friends who are color blind and mix up the same colors that Ruben is having trouble with.

As he suggested if you just increase the contrast between the two colors it would be a great help to not only him but to others as well as all of your colors have an equal temperament which is where things can get confusing for those with color blindness.

Also, with the shading of of the objects on the map I find that it distracts from the map a bit. It pulls the eye away from the map towards the objects which I think is a design issue. Anyone else see what I am talking about?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:05 am

i will put up a piccture of how you can understand ruben, when i come form school

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:52 am

luckiekevin, i want to map look realistic, andif i remowe shadows from object, then not be real.

Ok wisse i waith you reply. :wink:

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:41 am

change the colours only slightly. Colourblindness is a common problem and one that we should try to understand not brush it under the carpet.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:52 am

look trough the eyeas of some color blind people

(nearly all the colors are purple-like)

i could not make it exactly as colorblind sea, but you will understand the idea of it

you nearly can't see any differenc between the 109th infantry division (upper right) and the 4th marine division, luckly there aren't border echother here, but for ruben its the same for the countrys he said (air fields & alternative plan B) as for us the countrys i said

i hope you understand it

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:17 pm

Ruben Cassar
Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

Ok, somebody made a mistake, Ruben say "B" and "Air fields(Hill 362/382),and you say "4th M D" and "109th infantry division" In yours example these 2 its very diferent colors.

Let me say some Example. We have people like Ruben and he problem with colors, but what we to do if we have people who see like you show me Wisse, then we will have very serious problem to combine these 2 diferent problems.
If you understand what i say, maybe have many diferent people who can see diferent colors in these map.
I look yours example and see that country "A" and "5th M D" its similar colors to.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:19 pm

qwert wrote:
Ruben Cassar
Qwert I have a problem with two of the colours you use in the map. I am mild colour blind so I guess other people might have the same problem.

The colour Pink and Purple look very similar to me. Can you make one lighter or darker please? I am referring to where there is the territory with "B" and to the territory with "Hill 362/382".

Ok, somebody made a mistake, Ruben say "B" and "Air fields(Hill 362/382),and you say "4th M D" and "109th infantry division" In yours example these 2 its very diferent colors.

Let me say some Example. We have people like Ruben and he problem with colors, but what we to do if we have people who see like you show me Wisse, then we will have very serious problem to combine these 2 diferent problems.
If you understand what i say, maybe have many diferent people who can see diferent colors in these map.
I look yours example and see that country "A" and "5th M D" its similar colors to.

as i sayd in my post that i could not make it exactly as a color blind would see i meant that by it, i can't make the good color of it

luckiekevin · Post by **luckiekevin** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:09 pm

luckiekevin, i want to map look realistic, andif i remowe shadows from object, then not be real.

i understand, it's a little thing and I don't want to be a pain. Just making a suggestion. Maybe if it was more of a gray shade and less black.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:10 pm

Why dont u just download greasemonkey for the colourblind ruben? You can find it free on this site!!!!

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:15 pm

hulmey wrote:Why dont u just download greasemonkey for the colourblind ruben? You can find it free on this site!!!!

-.-" read...
you can't change the colors on the map with the colorblind script you only get to see something behind (or before) the army numbers so you can see wich countrys are you, it doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses