Canadian Federal election. 2011

[Timminz]

Looks like the Cons are getting caught again, with their hand in the cookie jar.


Auditor's draft report alleges Tories misspent G8 funds

The auditor general says the Harper government allegedly misinformed Parliament to win approval for a $50-million G8 fund that lavished money on dubious projects in a Conservative riding.

And she suggests in a draft report the process may have been illegal.

...

Industry Minister Tony Clement, the mayor of Huntsville, and the general manager of Deerhurst Resort chose the 32 projects that received funding — with no regard for the needs of the summit or the conditions laid down by the government.

Seriously. These stories seem to be coming to light every couple days now. How many more times do we have to hear about the sleazy behaviour of these guys before we tell them we've had enough.


If this is the kind of thing they pull in a minority position, you can add my name to the list of people who are very scared about what they might do with a majority.

[notyou2]

They changed the date of the leader's debate in French due to the fact that it was the same night as the first game between Montreal Canadiens and Boston Bruins NHL play off series.

Only in Canada.

[Baron Von PWN]

Looks like the Cons are getting caught again, with their hand in the cookie jar.


Auditor's draft report alleges Tories misspent G8 funds

The auditor general says the Harper government allegedly misinformed Parliament to win approval for a $50-million G8 fund that lavished money on dubious projects in a Conservative riding.

And she suggests in a draft report the process may have been illegal.

...

Industry Minister Tony Clement, the mayor of Huntsville, and the general manager of Deerhurst Resort chose the 32 projects that received funding — with no regard for the needs of the summit or the conditions laid down by the government.

Seriously. These stories seem to be coming to light every couple days now. How many more times do we have to hear about the sleazy behaviour of these guys before we tell them we've had enough.


If this is the kind of thing they pull in a minority position, you can add my name to the list of people who are very scared about what they might do with a majority.

There you go again timminz Fear mongering. Don't you know the money the conservatives use is always for the betterment of Canadians*


*for the purposes of this message Canadians means Conservatives or Conservative supporters.

[Baron Von PWN]

Apparently the conservatives just love lying to parliament.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadav ... raser.html

[Baron Von PWN]

Be sure to tune into the Leadership debate, it should be interesting. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/201 ... ebate.html

[Baron Von PWN]

CBC reality check of the debate.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadav ... ebate.html

[2dimes]

They changed the date of the leader's debate in French due to the fact that it was the same night as the first game between Montreal Canadiens and Boston Bruins NHL play off series.

Only in Canada.

No one would have watched durin the game Eh.

[Baron Von PWN]

Translation of the french debate tonight

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada_V ... 1882111563

Also the french version without translation. http://elections.radio-canada.ca/electi ... /le_debat/

[lurkerleader]

Thanks for the translation link Baron.

At around 1:21:00 of the translated version, they are talking about Quebec and its role in Canada. Harper says "a Conservative Canada, recognizes the Quebec nation amongst the United.... Canada."

Was this a translator fail, or was Harper confusing Canada with the US?


EDIT - ahh ok later on uses the term Unified / United Canada ...

I must say Gilles Duceppe certainly gives a straight answer. If only the other leaders would do so as well

[Baron Von PWN]

Thanks for the translation link Baron.

At around 1:21:00 of the translated version, they are talking about Quebec and its role in Canada. Harper says "a Conservative Canada, recognizes the Quebec nation amongst the United.... Canada."

Was this a translator fail, or was Harper confusing Canada with the US?


EDIT - ahh ok later on uses the term Unified / United Canada ...

I must say Gilles Duceppe certainly gives a straight answer. If only the other leaders would do so as well

To be fair to the others Giles is the most experienced of the Federal leaders, also its the French language debate so he's got a huge edge. I realy feel if he were in almost any other party he'd be prime minister.

[keiths31]

To be fair to the others Giles is the most experienced of the Federal leaders, also its the French language debate so he's got a huge edge. I realy feel if he were in almost any other party he'd be prime minister.

He is actually a good leader. And I agree if he was leading the Libs or Cons he would have been PM by now. If it wasn't for that pesky trying to get Quebec out of Canada thing...

[Baron Von PWN]

To be fair to the others Giles is the most experienced of the Federal leaders, also its the French language debate so he's got a huge edge. I realy feel if he were in almost any other party he'd be prime minister.

He is actually a good leader. And I agree if he was leading the Libs or Cons he would have been PM by now. If it wasn't for that pesky trying to get Quebec out of Canada thing...

Exactly, though formally the Bloc wouldn't do that, as they see it as a matter to be decided by the province. So they would be supportive of it but would never do it federally, in theory anyways.

[Baron Von PWN]

The conservatives apparently don't want young people voting.

http://www.guelphmercury.com/news/local ... -wednesday

Oh if you'd like to know more about the cons record check this site out. http://www.shitharperdid.ca/

[Baron Von PWN]

Helena Guergis speaks out about her treatment by the cons.

Http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadav ... day21.html

[Johnny Rockets]

Can you change the title of this thread to:

Child Molesting, thieving, meth-dealing, wife-beating, charity fund embezzling, mass murderer seeks to form a majority government in the house of parliament after eating a dozen babies and seducing us morons with his hypno ray gun so he can sell Canada to the Chinese?

Because lets face it; in three more pages you'll be close enough to it.




JRock

[Baron Von PWN]

Can you change the title of this thread to:

Child Molesting, thieving, meth-dealing, wife-beating, charity fund embezzling, mass murderer seeks to form a majority government in the house of parliament after eating a dozen babies and seducing us morons with his hypno ray gun so he can sell Canada to the Chinese?

Because lets face it; in three more pages you'll be close enough to it.




JRock

Feel free to post whatever news stories you like about the Canadian election. I am admittedly very partisan and don't pretend to be any otherwise. Additionally if you have an issue with any of the articles I've posted by all means bring it up, challenge me on it. I'm posting these stories to generate discussion and hopefully get people talking about the election.

[Ray Rider]

Can you change the title of this thread to:

Child Molesting, thieving, meth-dealing, wife-beating, charity fund embezzling, mass murderer seeks to form a majority government in the house of parliament after eating a dozen babies and seducing us morons with his hypno ray gun so he can sell Canada to the Chinese?

Because lets face it; in three more pages you'll be close enough to it.




JRock

lol It is starting to sound like an echo chamber of one-sided criticism in here...I don't have much time for posting now with college finals coming up, though.

[2dimes]

Dude, you can go to college every year. Elections only happen every year and a half or so here.

[Baron Von PWN]

Ignatieff to Canadians, "Rise up!". I wan't this guy to be PM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBPOK9PIw-0

[Johnny Rockets]

Ask him to "Show Up"

He missed what? 60% of the voting session in the house of parliament?

Looks like he was saying "So What?" a lot himself.

Considering he and his future coalition had the power to block a lot of Harper's shit, I'm left wondering why he didn't try to lead the opposition a lot better. Nothing in his performance sure as hell convinces me he'll lead my country with any better effort, even with that band of traitors he'll ally himself with. Mark my words, three months after his defeat in this election he'll be teaching classes somewhere south of the border.

JRock

[lurkerleader]

I may be misinformed here, but I am to beleive that EVERY single bill that got through parliament that was NOT CONSERVATIVE was shut down by the senate,,,

Sure it may look bad to stop voting, but maybe him and Harper (who also missed a lot of days at parliament) both understood that system is broken and one sided. Is there something to show what party led bills he did vote on?

Harper even went on to say in one of the debates that parliament is not whats important, its doing what he can to the economy.

[Baron Von PWN]

Ask him to "Show Up"

He missed what? 60% of the voting session in the house of parliament?

Looks like he was saying "So What?" a lot himself.

Considering he and his future coalition had the power to block a lot of Harper's shit, I'm left wondering why he didn't try to lead the opposition a lot better. Nothing in his performance sure as hell convinces me he'll lead my country with any better effort, even with that band of traitors he'll ally himself with. Mark my words, three months after his defeat in this election he'll be teaching classes somewhere south of the border.

JRock

I see you've bought the coalition argument. He's said they won't form a coalition government , I think the debates have proped that up. Ignatieff and Layton certainly didin't hold back from attacking each other during the debates, in fact it was Layton who brought up the attendance thing. Unless you think working with other parties = a coalition than no I don't think the libs will be forming a coalition government.

Even if they were to form a coalition with the NDP that would be perfectly legitimate, and fully within the bounds of Canadian democracy, anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.

This article I found goese into his attendance record, http://www.canada.com/news/decision-can ... story.html. It says he often abstained from votes because they were private members bills from his party he didin't personaly support but didin't want to vote against and thus discourage his MPs. Maybe a weak excuse but there you have it.

The vitriol against the bloc is allways somewhat shocking to me as a Quebecer. They loby for provincial sovreingty not seperatism.I don't support them but I think they play an important role, the federal gov needs to be reminded of the speration of provincial and federal powers every once in a while . Are they often selfish? Do they support quebec seperatism? yes, but they have allways said that is for the province to decide, and the province has said no, twice.

If the election goese as I think it will, a reduced tory minority, I'm pretty sure Igy will be stiking around.

[Johnny Rockets]

The block tried to break up my country. Twice. Any support to a political group that supports that stance is in my view treasonous and intolerable.

Any government formed with the block being a part of ( I'm not opposed to an NDP/LIB coalition...) will spell a period of confused and wasted time and money, bickering and Bloc agenda bullshit. You cannot effectively govern a country when there is bias to one province.

The provinces, especially Quebec, need to be reminded where their lavish, appeasing transfer payments come from.

As I said before, I'm no Harper fan, but the lack of leadership, or viable leadership in this race is frighting. This was a stupid time to force an election.

J

[GreecePwns]

I'm judging purely off the English debate, but it seems unlikely that the Liberals and NDP form a coalition government. Ignatieff was very strongly against such an idea and Layton (who, if pressed to pick a winner, I would pick him) was attacking him quite a bit.

For me, Layton won the debate with two things no one said once: abolishing the Senate and proportional representation.

[Johnny Rockets]

What is too bad, is that I'd like to see a 4 year NDP term in, so that they can push reforms into place. ( No hope of hell of this happening....)
Then vote out those spend happy campers, and put in a Liberal government...(without the current leader.)

If Harper squeaks in with a minority government, you can bet your bottom dollar that coalition will be "back" on every ones lips, especially the bloc because they know they can hijack the buss with fat demands for Quebec in return for their votes.
The NDP will be all for it, because it's the closest they will ever get to any form of power.


Iggys already measuring himself up for knee-pads.

http://bcblue.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/ ... on-monkey/

Ok, now that's from a pro-conservative website, but it is a CBC news clip. Watch Iggy squirm and NOT ANSWER the question....three times.

JRock