Group Think

[Woodruff]

On one side you have those who believe in absolute right and wrong. (Which must be set by a higher power)

This is an utterly moronic set of statements. Made so by a single word.

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On one side you have those who believe in absolute right and wrong. (Which must be set by a higher power)

On the other side you have those who believe that right and wrong is set up by man and differs by culture. (Most do not believe in a higher power)

Nope, you miss at least one option.

See, some people feel that some right and wrong issues are inherent, are necessary to humanity essentially. Murder (not killing, but murder) is wrong in every culture. They may differ on when it goes from killing to murder, on when killing is justified, but the idea that someone cannot just randomly kill others for no reason is universally bad.

The problem you have here, jay is that you are aware of only the narrowest of options. You truly do not know enough of human culture to make any such assertions as you are making.

Thanks for proving my point. God either makes right, right and wrong, wrong or neither exists.

The trouble is, I said nothing of the sort. Perhaps you should reread, with understanding this time?

"You have heard eye for an eye but I tell you the truth, if someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the left also."

Quoting the Bible does not mean you understand it. Satan quoted quite well.

Murder OR killing is wrong, in ANY circumstance. Or it is wrong in none.

So you are a Mennonite, then? Sorry, you have too often come out with views directly opposing what you claim here.

If someone is attacking my child.. or any child, for that matter, perhaps even just another person, then you can bet I might kill in defense. That is not murder. To my mind, standing back and allowing an evil person to just murder my child without intervening would be for me to aid the murderer.

This is a key distinction.

The problem you have here is you try to cram morality into a shape you are comfortable with. If it doesn't fit your mold then it's unimportant and subject to opinion. Failing to realize that it is God who decides what is right and wrong, not man.

LOL...LOL... no, jay, that is exactly what YOU do. See, the things I talk of above have nothing at all to do with my morality or what I consider wrong and right. I am merely acknowledging that other people, with differing views, do exist. I would suggest you travel the world and actually learn a bit about other people, but I would not want to foist you onto any other culture.