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Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:28 pm
by virus90
with recent develepments and there being a 50 % chance that there is a doc and roleblocker and a 50 % chance there are just 2 normal goons. Is it then in our best intert to not lynch? or try and find the roleblocker, if you take him out the doc would save greg, and greg would be able to look for others.
Still only the doc would know if this is a viable scenario. and hard to tell the difference between a roleblocker and a goon, if you can find any 1 of them at all..

Oh and for now before i forget: Unvote

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:30 pm
by mtamburini
Stats are now irrelevant since it was always be 6v2

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:37 pm
by mtamburini
CBWOP Stats are irrelevant since it will always be 5v2

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:37 pm
by mtamburini
Greg since you are the only "clear" we shall follow your lead for votes.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:07 pm
by gregwolf121
no right now i know just as much as the next man, so whoever i vote for won't be because i know they are scum. that being said now that i've had to claim, and my ability to investigate is probably useless, yes TWO i can still offer insight today, a no lynch now won't help us as much as i had wanted it too. so unvote

my original plan was for the no lynch so that we wouldn't lose any town and i would have had a chance to investigate and hopefully have found scum, at the very least narrow down the pool of suspects. but now that i've had to claim if we can get another good case together then we will see.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:10 pm
by mtamburini
a nl kills you greg so someone is getting a vote today

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:23 pm
by JamesKer1
virus90 wrote:james that would be on me, i made the case and thought i had a solid one.
Yes, but he's pushing for more claims. Even more scummy....

Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:28 pm
by Iron Butterfly
We need to lynch. Why?

We are in scenario one. We know who the cop is. I suspect mtamburini is the doc because of his role blocker shout out.

We have a pool of 5 to choose from. From my stand point I have a pool of 4 to choose from as do the VT.

Unless we lynch the role blocker today they will block our PR and kill the other.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:29 pm
by Iron Butterfly
JamesKer1 wrote:
virus90 wrote:james that would be on me, i made the case and thought i had a solid one.
Yes, but he's pushing for more claims. Even more scummy....

geez use some common sense.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:29 pm
by gregwolf121
the only other claim i've seen him ask for is the roleblocker, which seemed more like a plea of desperation than anything else,

that being said tam i know your new to the game but, asking for people to claim is viewed to be scummy, basically you find evidence of others acting scummy and then you make a case of why they are scum, they defend, then at L2 they claim and if they are believed they live, if not they die.

james, i think i understand why you voted for tam, but would you show use your reasoning/make a case

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:36 pm
by JamesKer1
gregwolf121 wrote:james, i think i understand why you voted for tam, but would you show use your reasoning/make a case
I'll get a big thing brewed up, give me a bit.

Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:36 pm
by virus90
Iron Butterfly wrote:We need to lynch. Why?

We are in scenario one. We know who the cop is. I suspect mtamburini is the doc because of his role blocker shout out.

We have a pool of 5 to choose from. From my stand point I have a pool of 4 to choose from as do the VT.

Unless we lynch the role blocker today they will block our PR and kill the other.
i assume the green part was in reaction to me right?
anyway i will respond to that :P
Why i asked; i asked because i wonder if we still have a no lynch camp, and if so what would be good about that.

On the rest of your post; i find it hard to "read"mtamburine, he is switching sides / posting like an ADHD-kid high on candy, JK. Not sure if its scummy or its just inexperience..

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:11 pm
by mtamburini
How can you vote against not lynching when we have an outted cop. He will die tonight.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:50 pm
by gregwolf121
im pretty much dead no matter what we do, there is only one way i live, and thats only a 50-50 chance,
but i think you meant to say how can you vote for a no lynch with a claimed cop,

Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:08 pm
by Iron Butterfly
I have not heard a reasonable explanation on why mtamburini called out the role blocker. He thought they were Town...fine. Hes a newb...fine. Why roleblocker??

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:07 am
by mtamburini
at the time, i beleived if there was a roleblocker present, then there would be only 1 goon and we could ML easily

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:29 am
by Iron Butterfly
mtamburini wrote:at the time, i beleived if there was a roleblocker present, then there would be only 1 goon and we could ML easily
Why would you believe a role blocker present? There are only two scenarios with a rb.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:33 am
by Iron Butterfly
Iron Butterfly wrote:
mtamburini wrote:at the time, i beleived if there was a roleblocker present, then there would be only 1 goon and we could ML easily
Why would you believe a role blocker present? There are only two scenarios with a rb.
I am making this point for a reason. Lets call a spade a spade.

The sooner we all stop beating around the bush the better we can reach a logical conclusion.

With logic and common sense we can narrow down the pool of players mafia is hiding in.

Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:54 am
by mtamburini
again i said IF there was one present, thinking they were a townine not maf, there would be no reason why they should out them self, then we could do an easy ML and take a stab at killing the afia.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:26 pm
by virus90
JamesKer1 wrote:
gregwolf121 wrote:james, i think i understand why you voted for tam, but would you show use your reasoning/make a case
I'll get a big thing brewed up, give me a bit.
Was hoping for the big thing :P thinks awfully quiet out here. 1 day left if i am not mistaken

Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:31 pm
by colton24
Apologies for my failure to produce a vote count when promised.

I will when I'm home tonight, I promise :)

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:52 pm
by gregwolf121
well it certainly has gotten very quite, but no people its not nap time, just yet, and we only have a day or so till the deadline, so james can we get your case?
and IB you said we can narrow down the pool using logic, i'd like to see this will you make a post about it

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:01 pm
by JamesKer1
Well, I was making my case and noticed a trend- too big to be consistent scumminess, but more of a playing style.

Unvote with apologies to mtamburini, however I would like to keep a FOS on him for the promotion of claiming. No one is going to claim mafia, so it seems pointless to do this "try and try again" thing. That post before my vote stuck out to me and set off all sorts of bells in my head, but reading the posts up until it... Well, it could be expected.

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:06 pm
by JamesKer1
However, I am now also leaning towards TWO, and wondering where pie went. TWO seems to be hyperposting one page, then disappearing for a few. He played the exact same way in a game he just turned up scum in. Maybe it's his playing style as we'll, hard to tell at this point, but I think it's "scum style".

Re: Re: Neighborhood Mafia (7/7) Day 1: Not So Crime Free

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:39 am
by The Weird One
JamesKer1 wrote:However, I am now also leaning towards TWO, and wondering where pie went. TWO seems to be hyperposting one page, then disappearing for a few. He played the exact same way in a game he just turned up scum in. Maybe it's his playing style as we'll, hard to tell at this point, but I think it's "scum style".
To explain: I have a final presentation tomorrow, a final presentation Friday, a final project due Friday, a final on next Wednesday, and a final on next Thursday...I've spent the last week or so doing work for those two presentations and project...I've been kinda busy...I stop in and post a bunch on one page whenever I'm fed up with school and dump a bunch of time into it...then I go back and work on schoolstuff and vanish for a while...once these presentations are done with, I should be more consistent...