OBAMA

[nagerous]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

[Nobunaga]

... It's a huge con job, of course. This man is about as black as I am (I'm not black, btw) and grew up in posh schools yet he's managing to play the "Poor black kid from the hood done good" routine.

First of all, that's an offensive stereotype. And are you fucking kidding me? He paid off his student loans last year, and only because he made money on his book.

... 2005 was 1.2 million (book sales related). In 2006 BHO made $991,296. Last year he made 4.2 million (this is not fund-raising or campaign-related, this is income). Like everybody else he probably let his loans slide until he saw they might come back to bite him (can't have a president with outstanding student loans).

... And what's an offensive stereotype? Are you referring to the one he is using? Yes, you are right. I am offended by this.

... ( The Alaskan school systems must REALLY suck. )

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[InkL0sed]

... It's a huge con job, of course. This man is about as black as I am (I'm not black, btw) and grew up in posh schools yet he's managing to play the "Poor black kid from the hood done good" routine.

First of all, that's an offensive stereotype. And are you fucking kidding me? He paid off his student loans last year, and only because he made money on his book.

... 2005 was 1.2 million (book sales related). In 2006 BHO made $991,296. Last year he made 4.2 million (this is not fund-raising or campaign-related, this is income). Like everybody else he probably let his loans slide until he saw they might come back to bite him (can't have a president with outstanding student loans).

... And what's an offensive stereotype? Are you referring to the one he is using? Yes, you are right. I am offended by this.

... ( The Alaskan school systems must REALLY suck. )

...

What, so Obama grew up in 2006?

[jay_a2j]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

[Juan_Bottom]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

What ya thinkin' Jay? Martial Law?.... or rigged elections?

[Juan_Bottom]

Also, anyone have a decent theory about what Obama and Clinton discussed last night, in their (very private )hotel room? Running mates???

[jay_a2j]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

What ya thinkin' Jay? Martial Law?.... or rigged elections?

I think, by what my sources say, that Bush will go to war with Iran this summer causing the economy to collapse and martial law declared. Now, the only thing is, Bush will need a reason to go to war. Keep watch for another "terrorist attack" that will be blamed on Iran.

[heavycola]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

Would you care to put money on that? A few bucks, which let's face it are only monopoly money, or a year's premium? I'm serious. A wager!

Also - when you talk about your sources, do you have any that aren't youtube?

[jay_a2j]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

Would you care to put money on that? A few bucks, which let's face it are only monopoly money, or a year's premium? I'm serious. A wager!

Also - when you talk about your sources, do you have any that aren't youtube?

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[Dancing Mustard]

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Nah f*ck it, let's bet in dollars my man. After all, they're going to be worthless and replaced by Ameros soon, right?

Come on Jay, $10 says an election happens as scheduled.

[Juan_Bottom]

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Nah f*ck it, let's bet in dollars my man. After all, they're going to be worthless and replaced by Ameros soon, right?

Come on Jay, $10 says an election happens as scheduled.

Isn't $10 bucks American equal to like $10,000 Euro? This doesn't seem fair.....

[jay_a2j]

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Nah f*ck it, let's bet in dollars my man. After all, they're going to be worthless and replaced by Ameros soon, right?

Come on Jay, $10 says an election happens as scheduled.

an ounce of gold maybe....money will be worthless.

[danvoy9787]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

What ya thinkin' Jay? Martial Law?.... or rigged elections?

I think, by what my sources say, that Bush will go to war with Iran this summer causing the economy to collapse and martial law declared. Now, the only thing is, Bush will need a reason to go to war. Keep watch for another "terrorist attack" that will be blamed on Iran.

Wow. Just when i thought people couldnt get any MORE ignorant they surprise me again!

[jay_a2j]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

What ya thinkin' Jay? Martial Law?.... or rigged elections?

I think, by what my sources say, that Bush will go to war with Iran this summer causing the economy to collapse and martial law declared. Now, the only thing is, Bush will need a reason to go to war. Keep watch for another "terrorist attack" that will be blamed on Iran.

Wow. Just when i thought people couldnt get any MORE ignorant they surprise me again!

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[heavycola]

I hope Obama can pull through but it's going to be tough considering all the Southern States will vote McCain... maybe this will result in the 2nd American Civil War with all the Southern Hicks secceeding with their states because of not wanting a black man in charge of their country.

Let me be the first (and no doubt only) person to state on ConquerClub that there will not be an election.

Would you care to put money on that? A few bucks, which let's face it are only monopoly money, or a year's premium? I'm serious. A wager!

Also - when you talk about your sources, do you have any that aren't youtube?

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Done. Expect pornographic blasphemy.

Nobunaga - if you coudl find an example of obama pretending to be from a poor black neighbourhood i'd be interested in seeing it. Seriously, i hadn't heard that before.

[Dancing Mustard]

an ounce of gold maybe....money will be worthless.

So are you willing to put your money where your mouth is or not?

Or has all your fervor and conviction suddenly departed you at the thought of losing a measly $10?

[suggs]

I'm looking forward to Jays complete humiliation when the election happens, as, barring nuclear war, it clearly will.

Still, Jays a reasonable man, so no doubt when the election is over, he will, presented with this evidence that does not fit his theory, reject his theory.
Thats what rational people do, after all. You build up a thoery that makes sense of the available evidence - you don't reject evidence because it does not fit your pre-conceived thoery.

So, Jay: when the election happens, will yopu make a public/CC forum retraction?

Or: I wonder - will you reject the evidence, to fit your theory. Thats the mark of the conspiricist, Astrologer ad Freudian through the ages:

"Ah well, Suggs, the fact that Obam won by a landslide only happened because he secretly somehow took over the media, and bamboozled the electorate into voting for him!"

This is what will happen, isn't it Jay.
The election will go ahead, and you will reject the available evidence and make up some fictional nonsense so your theory remains intact.

The principlie of falsifiability, whilst not the only principle that one can use to assess the rationality of an argument is a good place to start.
ie what would it take for you to admit your wrong?
And the answer, I suspect, is that no matter how much evidence comes out to prove you wrong, you will ignore/re-interpret it, just like the astrologer.

Its just depressing to think of the bollocks you are going to come out with in November, when the election takes place.

[Napoleon Ier]

Yayzor for Anthony Flew! (I think).

[suggs]

you got the reference! Huzzah!
Yes, it was Flew who wrote about the "death by a thousand qualifications" re: falsifiaction theory.

[Juan_Bottom]

I'm looking forward to Jays complete humiliation when the election happens, as, barring nuclear war, it clearly will.

Still, Jays a reasonable man, so no doubt when the election is over, he will, presented with this evidence that does not fit his theory, reject his theory.
Thats what rational people do, after all. You build up a thoery that makes sense of the available evidence - you don't reject evidence because it does not fit your pre-conceived thoery.

So, Jay: when the election happens, will yopu make a public/CC forum retraction?

Or: I wonder - will you reject the evidence, to fit your theory. Thats the mark of the conspiricist, Astrologer ad Freudian through the ages:

"Ah well, Suggs, the fact that Obam won by a landslide only happened because he secretly somehow took over the media, and bamboozled the electorate into voting for him!"

This is what will happen, isn't it Jay.
The election will go ahead, and you will reject the available evidence and make up some fictional nonsense so your theory remains intact.

The principlie of falsifiability, whilst not the only principle that one can use to assess the rationality of an argument is a good place to start.
ie what would it take for you to admit your wrong?
And the answer, I suspect, is that no matter how much evidence comes out to prove you wrong, you will ignore/re-interpret it, just like the astrologer.

Its just depressing to think of the bollocks you are going to come out with in November, when the election takes place.

Jay said that the election won't happen because Bush will bomb Iran and declare Martial Law.
What Jay didn't say is why Bush will declare Martial Law. Though to be fair to Jay, Bush has recently passed several Martial Law bills, that congress was not allowed to look at. And everyone knows that Cheney and Bush want to bomb Iran. So while I disagree with Jay, I can see how he reached that conclusion.

[suggs]

Yes, I understand what Jay said.
I want to know what he'll do when it doesn't happen.

[jay_a2j]

I'm looking forward to Jays complete humiliation when the election happens, as, barring nuclear war, it clearly will.

What about a nuclear "terrorist attack"? You think it will still go on? I would love nothing more than for the election to take place. But I have doubts that it will. If the election does happen, I will admit I was wrong...no problem. But what if I'm right? Then what?

[suggs]

If an election doesn't happen, I will admit your right.
But that would be unprecedented. Don't forget the 1944 election.
It would take the destruction of most of the USA for an election not to happen, because you chaps have a rather strong democratic tradition. If something like 9/11 happens again in the summer, i imagine the election will go ahead.
Worst case scenario, it will be delayed for a few months -BUT THAT IS INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY.

[heavycola]

I'm looking forward to Jays complete humiliation when the election happens, as, barring nuclear war, it clearly will.

What about a nuclear "terrorist attack"? You think it will still go on? I would love nothing more than for the election to take place. But I have doubts that it will. If the election does happen, I will admit I was wrong...no problem. But what if I'm right? Then what?

then you give me a goofy avatar for a month!!11!!

[Juan_Bottom]

If an election doesn't happen, I will admit your right.
But that would be unprecedented. Don't forget the 1944 election.
It would take the destruction of most of the USA for an election not to happen, because you chaps have a rather strong democratic tradition. If something like 9/11 happens again in the summer, i imagine the election will go ahead.
Worst case scenario, it will be delayed for a few months -BUT THAT IS INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY.

I agree, Americans aren't that cowardly, no matter what happens. Besides, everyone here has a gun and everybody feels like a big man when they are packing.