I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't reached endgame, town>mafia.jak111 wrote: So you think we NEED a lynch today? Remember, we have a huge chance of hitting town instead of mafia. It's whether or not we believe some claims atm..
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I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't reached endgame, town>mafia.jak111 wrote: So you think we NEED a lynch today? Remember, we have a huge chance of hitting town instead of mafia. It's whether or not we believe some claims atm..

I wasn't gonna say anything, but... This.Nebuchadnezer wrote:I think there is a lot of time being wasted on this. In my personal list, I had Sati as a character that would be in this game before I had The Kid. I don't know if you three (pmchugh, vodean, hippo) are really trying to get an answer, or just trying to waste time and misdirect people. If you really want to go through this all again, then put your votes back on him. Either way, having over 3 pages of posts saying the same thing is posting just to seem like you're posting. So, hurry up, verify his claim...again...so we can move on. And if it's really just about believing whether Sati is mafia or not, then say so and just vote that way. Don't speculate for 3 pages.
Ebwop, I was too eager to press the submit button ^^aage wrote:So far the only claims we've had have been very standard roles and very obscure characters. (Zee? The Kid? I think Commander Locke died at some point, should he be considered a major character? I doubt it.) I attributed the initial mistrust to the fact that you're all just tired of this long day and want a lynch, but after he proved his role I don't understand what you want from him. So he didn't say he was town... well, that's a great argument. Do you really think he has some sort of post restriction? Or that this is some sort of Freudian slip? As far as I know, priests have been town and I've never seen differently. Jak claims he has... once. Apparently that's enough to press a lynch. I am inclined to disagree.
The vote was for pushing for a lynch and then backing out, seems to represent that you are afraid of sticking your neck too far out. Upon a thorough retreading, not as terrible as at first I suspected.pmchugh wrote:Doom you really need to actually state why you find me suspicious. I had to go searching and all I found was that I was rolefishing (clearly not doing that here) and "intuition". Along side this post:DoomYoshi wrote:Vote pmc
Really? Twice in one day after I already voted you for it?
I can't relate that here either. If you are gonna vote for me then tell me why.DoomYoshi wrote:Vote pmc
Your unbacked vote against edoc has really odd timing. I would expect that earlier in the game or with less discussion on the table, not now. Also, your threatening tone about our names has already started to turn jak against me. Will provide specific quotes by request.
As for everywhere, I don't want to test his claim again I trust that he has a lynch stopping mechanism, I want to lynch him. I don't buy the claim and his silence since giving it is telling, even if Sati was to be expected in the game (the kid had a bigger role in the films IMO) the mafia could have been given fake claims and in that case we will never lynch anyone. I still think everywhere has acted suspiciously and is the best lynch for today.
aage wrote: If you want to replay the lynching scene from two days ago, fine with me, go ahead. I doubt it will help much, though. What you could do, however, is find a new suspect and let Every cast a hammer vote on that person. That way, you confirm that his vote is somehow invalid.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
everywhere116 wrote:You da man! Well, not really, because we're colorful ponies, but you get the idea.
Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?pmchugh wrote:On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.
And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.

Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.
Edocsil had suggested that earlier, and I agree with it.jak111 wrote:Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.
do you agree with it cause it takes the possibility of you being lynched today? why cant we just do the same test agian? i mean thats the easyest way to get you cleared.everywhere116 wrote:Edocsil had suggested that earlier, and I agree with it.jak111 wrote:Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.
No Clever, you skimmed my post. It would not clear him yet. He may require an EXTRA vote to be lynched which I will not push. So if we do it on another person it will take that possibility away completely.Some7hingCLEVER wrote:do you agree with it cause it takes the possibility of you being lynched today? why cant we just do the same test agian? i mean thats the easyest way to get you cleared.everywhere116 wrote:Edocsil had suggested that earlier, and I agree with it.jak111 wrote:Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.
oh sorry had to read three pages. confused me a bit.jak111 wrote:No Clever, you skimmed my post. It would not clear him yet. He may require an EXTRA vote to be lynched which I will not push. So if we do it on another person it will take that possibility away completely.Some7hingCLEVER wrote:do you agree with it cause it takes the possibility of you being lynched today? why cant we just do the same test agian? i mean thats the easyest way to get you cleared.everywhere116 wrote:Edocsil had suggested that earlier, and I agree with it.jak111 wrote:Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.
For the record, I do believe. I however think that the point will not go away until this is conclusively resolved. Also to clear some confusion, town priest, you cannot hammer? Or is this a different variant.everywhere116 wrote:Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?pmchugh wrote:On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.
And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
ya with all the hub-bub going on this is getting confused.edocsil wrote:For the record, I do believe. I however think that the point will not go away until this is conclusively resolved. Also to clear some confusion, town priest, you cannot hammer? Or is this a different variant.everywhere116 wrote:Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?pmchugh wrote:On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.
And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.
That's it. Town priest, cannot hammer. If I have any additional attributes in this game I'm unaware of them.edocsil wrote:For the record, I do believe. I however think that the point will not go away until this is conclusively resolved. Also to clear some confusion, town priest, you cannot hammer? Or is this a different variant.everywhere116 wrote:Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?pmchugh wrote:On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.
And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.
thanks for the clarification.everywhere116 wrote:That's it. Town priest, cannot hammer. If I have any additional attributes in this game I'm unaware of them.edocsil wrote:For the record, I do believe. I however think that the point will not go away until this is conclusively resolved. Also to clear some confusion, town priest, you cannot hammer? Or is this a different variant.everywhere116 wrote:Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?pmchugh wrote:On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.
And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.
And who better to put on the chop than the person making the suggestion!jak111 wrote:No Clever, you skimmed my post. It would not clear him yet. He may require an EXTRA vote to be lynched which I will not push. So if we do it on another person it will take that possibility away completely.Some7hingCLEVER wrote:do you agree with it cause it takes the possibility of you being lynched today? why cant we just do the same test agian? i mean thats the easyest way to get you cleared.everywhere116 wrote:Edocsil had suggested that earlier, and I agree with it.jak111 wrote:Well, I don't know about that. You and Clever are still on the chopping block. If we must we can test Everywhere's claim on one of you and it will FULLY confirm it (Because it'll take away the possibility he needs one extra vote to be lynched)vodean wrote:even among those convinced that everywhere is priest, few are convinced hes town. is it worth a lynch? its not worth moving on to a new case, certainly.


I agree! Let's disregard his roleclaim entirely and kill off Trinity!thehippo8 wrote:Actually, I've gone back through everything again (particularly day 1 and 2) and I am firmly of the opinion that it is scummy to lynch avowed townies without a good reason. And I believe that there's no good reason to lynch Vodean or Clever.
But I've gone back and re-looked at the case on Jak. Just because he's masoned with Doom doesn't make that a bad case. Plenty of mafia masons out there. And even if he's third party at leasst that's more expendable than town. So, if there is a value on retesting this on someone other tan Everywhere then let's retest on Jak.
Yea, good luck getting many townies on that wagon Hippo. VT's are less use to us than a TWO masons (forgetting the lover part of it Hippo or are you looking for a 2 in 1 deal?)thehippo8 wrote:
And who better to put on the chop than the person making the suggestion!
Actually, I've gone back through everything again (particularly day 1 and 2) and I am firmly of the opinion that it is scummy to lynch avowed townies without a good reason. And I believe that there's no good reason to lynch Vodean or Clever.
But I've gone back and re-looked at the case on Jak. Just because he's masoned with Doom doesn't make that a bad case. Plenty of mafia masons out there. And even if he's third party at leasst that's more expendable than town. So, if there is a value on retesting this on someone other tan Everywhere then let's retest on Jak.
fastpostedSome thoughts from day 1 and 2
Jak says hunt the inactives day 1 page 8
Edoc points out Jak is scummy for his attempted mislynch day 1 page 12
Neb claims day 1 page 20 I am Tank. Vanilla Townie. I have nothing special to do during the night, so I'm trying to keep myself interested by stirring the pot. And if I get lynched, who cares? Fortunately, my ploy worked, and we actually have some activity to go off of now. My two high suspects are edocsil and MoB Deadly for trying to vote for me with some "reasons" as to why I deserved the vote. However, their reasons are flimsy at best...and just plain stupid at worst. But, they felt they had to give reasons, so that they didn't just look like blatant bandwagoners...right?
Jak votes Neb day 1 page 21
Jak and IB go back to Neb day 1 page 24
Neb and Leehar bicker and Jak gets philosophical and doesn't want Leehar, IB, Jak or Eldario lynched but makes comment about them anyway day 1 page 26
Dazza and IB attack Jak day 1 page 26
Neb goes for Jak day 1 page 27
I and Everywhere vote jak day 1 page 27
Cowboyz also doesn't like the case on Jak but likes the one on IB but doesn't vote day 1 page 28
DJ & SG7 vote for Jak day 1 page 29
Chuck votes jak day 1 page 30
Doom claims mason with Jak day 1 page 30
Lot's of unvoting day 1 page 31
We are back to inactives and Jak and Mob go for Eldario day 1 page 37
Doom and Jak vote for Eldario day 1 page 40
Vote count at that point is eldario(8)- neb, shield, hippo, everywhere, djfireside, betiko, doomyoshi, jak111 day 1 page 41
Eldario claims day 1 page 41 I am Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie
At this point voting are eldario(10)- shield, hippo, everywhere, DJ, betiko, doom, IB, Mob, clever, jonty day 1 page 44
Eldario falls on his sword day 1 page 47
Neb votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
Everywhere votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
pmc votes Eldario day 1 page 49
Betico, jonty and Neb vote Eldario day 1 page 49
eldario, Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie has been lynched! day 1 page 50!!!
DAY TWO
jonty unvotes and Fos' s7c and Jak day 2 page 55
s7c slaps jonty and jonty apologises day 2 page 55
Jak Fos' s7c day 2 page 55
at this point the count is skill(9)- sound, betiko, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj day 2 page 59
sound and dj want skill prodded (but don't take off their votes) day 2 page 61
Jak votes skill day 2 page 61
Leehar Fos' Jak for not waiting day 2 page 61
Betico unvotes day 2 page 61
Skill is prodded and the vote count is skill(10)- sound, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj, IB, jak day 2 page 62
Jonty Fos' Jak for putting skill at L1 but doesn't unvote day 2 page 62
skill asks to be replaced day 2 page 62
Jak protests at the delay day 2 page 63
Doom agrees and hammers skill day 2 page 63
Betico bemoans the lack of claim (a bit late now!) day 2 page 63
jakslaps betico day 2 page 63
cowboyz, Captain Mifune, Town Vigilante, has been killed! night 2 page 64
read this one time...if i wanna test it then that means i dont know if its true or not. so your saying i should risk my life on this? not once did i say he was scum or say i believed him completly to be so. if i did i would vote him wouldnt i? no i just dont want to let him slip on a mishap that happened. that is all. nothing scummy about that. im not gonna risk my life to try and prove someone townie. but if i have to to prove his claim then sure i will do that. i just dont like the thought of it. but im just a vt so screw it. pile on the votes and have everywhere try and hammer.jak111 wrote:Yea, good luck getting many townies on that wagon Hippo. VT's are less use to us than a TWO masons (forgetting the lover part of it Hippo or are you looking for a 2 in 1 deal?)thehippo8 wrote:
And who better to put on the chop than the person making the suggestion!
Actually, I've gone back through everything again (particularly day 1 and 2) and I am firmly of the opinion that it is scummy to lynch avowed townies without a good reason. And I believe that there's no good reason to lynch Vodean or Clever.
But I've gone back and re-looked at the case on Jak. Just because he's masoned with Doom doesn't make that a bad case. Plenty of mafia masons out there. And even if he's third party at leasst that's more expendable than town. So, if there is a value on retesting this on someone other tan Everywhere then let's retest on Jak.
fastpostedSome thoughts from day 1 and 2
Jak says hunt the inactives day 1 page 8
Edoc points out Jak is scummy for his attempted mislynch day 1 page 12
Neb claims day 1 page 20 I am Tank. Vanilla Townie. I have nothing special to do during the night, so I'm trying to keep myself interested by stirring the pot. And if I get lynched, who cares? Fortunately, my ploy worked, and we actually have some activity to go off of now. My two high suspects are edocsil and MoB Deadly for trying to vote for me with some "reasons" as to why I deserved the vote. However, their reasons are flimsy at best...and just plain stupid at worst. But, they felt they had to give reasons, so that they didn't just look like blatant bandwagoners...right?
Jak votes Neb day 1 page 21
Jak and IB go back to Neb day 1 page 24
Neb and Leehar bicker and Jak gets philosophical and doesn't want Leehar, IB, Jak or Eldario lynched but makes comment about them anyway day 1 page 26
Dazza and IB attack Jak day 1 page 26
Neb goes for Jak day 1 page 27
I and Everywhere vote jak day 1 page 27
Cowboyz also doesn't like the case on Jak but likes the one on IB but doesn't vote day 1 page 28
DJ & SG7 vote for Jak day 1 page 29
Chuck votes jak day 1 page 30
Doom claims mason with Jak day 1 page 30
Lot's of unvoting day 1 page 31
We are back to inactives and Jak and Mob go for Eldario day 1 page 37
Doom and Jak vote for Eldario day 1 page 40
Vote count at that point is eldario(8)- neb, shield, hippo, everywhere, djfireside, betiko, doomyoshi, jak111 day 1 page 41
Eldario claims day 1 page 41 I am Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie
At this point voting are eldario(10)- shield, hippo, everywhere, DJ, betiko, doom, IB, Mob, clever, jonty day 1 page 44
Eldario falls on his sword day 1 page 47
Neb votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
Everywhere votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
pmc votes Eldario day 1 page 49
Betico, jonty and Neb vote Eldario day 1 page 49
eldario, Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie has been lynched! day 1 page 50!!!
DAY TWO
jonty unvotes and Fos' s7c and Jak day 2 page 55
s7c slaps jonty and jonty apologises day 2 page 55
Jak Fos' s7c day 2 page 55
at this point the count is skill(9)- sound, betiko, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj day 2 page 59
sound and dj want skill prodded (but don't take off their votes) day 2 page 61
Jak votes skill day 2 page 61
Leehar Fos' Jak for not waiting day 2 page 61
Betico unvotes day 2 page 61
Skill is prodded and the vote count is skill(10)- sound, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj, IB, jak day 2 page 62
Jonty Fos' Jak for putting skill at L1 but doesn't unvote day 2 page 62
skill asks to be replaced day 2 page 62
Jak protests at the delay day 2 page 63
Doom agrees and hammers skill day 2 page 63
Betico bemoans the lack of claim (a bit late now!) day 2 page 63
jakslaps betico day 2 page 63
cowboyz, Captain Mifune, Town Vigilante, has been killed! night 2 page 64
No. If Clever and them are soo confident that he's scum they should prove it, not suggest something that's already been done.
Fasposted. It's Clever getting away with sheeping.. If we wants to test the claim we'll test it on him. Unvote, Vote Clever.
yeah, hippo, i agree. lets kill off proven (essentially, due to a lack of counter-claim against these TWO individuals) town power-roles. that makes a lot of sense. Oh, wait. no, it doesnt, unless you are scum. perhaps still clever's scummbuddy, defending him? could be that you are a mafia hider. that would explain why you didnt do anything N1, and also why you havent shown up as scum for anyone else.thehippo8 wrote: And who better to put on the chop than the person making the suggestion!
Actually, I've gone back through everything again (particularly day 1 and 2) and I am firmly of the opinion that it is scummy to lynch avowed townies without a good reason. And I believe that there's no good reason to lynch Vodean or Clever.
But I've gone back and re-looked at the case on Jak. Just because he's masoned with Doom doesn't make that a bad case. Plenty of mafia masons out there. And even if he's third party at leasst that's more expendable than town. So, if there is a value on retesting this on someone other tan Everywhere then let's retest on Jak.
fastpostedSome thoughts from day 1 and 2
Jak says hunt the inactives day 1 page 8
Edoc points out Jak is scummy for his attempted mislynch day 1 page 12
Neb claims day 1 page 20 I am Tank. Vanilla Townie. I have nothing special to do during the night, so I'm trying to keep myself interested by stirring the pot. And if I get lynched, who cares? Fortunately, my ploy worked, and we actually have some activity to go off of now. My two high suspects are edocsil and MoB Deadly for trying to vote for me with some "reasons" as to why I deserved the vote. However, their reasons are flimsy at best...and just plain stupid at worst. But, they felt they had to give reasons, so that they didn't just look like blatant bandwagoners...right?
Jak votes Neb day 1 page 21
Jak and IB go back to Neb day 1 page 24
Neb and Leehar bicker and Jak gets philosophical and doesn't want Leehar, IB, Jak or Eldario lynched but makes comment about them anyway day 1 page 26
Dazza and IB attack Jak day 1 page 26
Neb goes for Jak day 1 page 27
I and Everywhere vote jak day 1 page 27
Cowboyz also doesn't like the case on Jak but likes the one on IB but doesn't vote day 1 page 28
DJ & SG7 vote for Jak day 1 page 29
Chuck votes jak day 1 page 30
Doom claims mason with Jak day 1 page 30
Lot's of unvoting day 1 page 31
We are back to inactives and Jak and Mob go for Eldario day 1 page 37
Doom and Jak vote for Eldario day 1 page 40
Vote count at that point is eldario(8)- neb, shield, hippo, everywhere, djfireside, betiko, doomyoshi, jak111 day 1 page 41
Eldario claims day 1 page 41 I am Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie
At this point voting are eldario(10)- shield, hippo, everywhere, DJ, betiko, doom, IB, Mob, clever, jonty day 1 page 44
Eldario falls on his sword day 1 page 47
Neb votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
Everywhere votes for Eldario day 1 page 48
pmc votes Eldario day 1 page 49
Betico, jonty and Neb vote Eldario day 1 page 49
eldario, Commander Locke, Vanilla Townie has been lynched! day 1 page 50!!!
DAY TWO
jonty unvotes and Fos' s7c and Jak day 2 page 55
s7c slaps jonty and jonty apologises day 2 page 55
Jak Fos' s7c day 2 page 55
at this point the count is skill(9)- sound, betiko, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj day 2 page 59
sound and dj want skill prodded (but don't take off their votes) day 2 page 61
Jak votes skill day 2 page 61
Leehar Fos' Jak for not waiting day 2 page 61
Betico unvotes day 2 page 61
Skill is prodded and the vote count is skill(10)- sound, jonty, everywhere, hippo, edoc, chuck, cowboyz, dj, IB, jak day 2 page 62
Jonty Fos' Jak for putting skill at L1 but doesn't unvote day 2 page 62
skill asks to be replaced day 2 page 62
Jak protests at the delay day 2 page 63
Doom agrees and hammers skill day 2 page 63
Betico bemoans the lack of claim (a bit late now!) day 2 page 63
jakslaps betico day 2 page 63
cowboyz, Captain Mifune, Town Vigilante, has been killed! night 2 page 64
