Stargate Mafia end game...french people are evil..

[Skittles!]

You could tell what you tried to do if you choose. Or at least if you tried to do something.

I decided not to do anything last night because well, to be honest, I really wasn't bothered to do anything. But only with investigations do you really know if you're roleblocked.. As I don't have investigations, then yeah.

[spiesr]

where is everybody gone, its still day

You told me to leave...

aha, ok bye bye fos for now

[rebelman]

where is everybody gone, its still day

You told me to leave...

aha, ok bye bye fos for now

[The Weird One]

where is everybody gone, its still day

You told me to leave...

aha, ok bye bye fos for now

sounds scummy

[CrabNebula]

Sorry for not posting. Net was down due to ISP problems. Got back now but I don't know for how long. I'll reread and post later. If I do not post until tomorrow, please either replace or modkill me.

[CrabNebula]

OMGUS vote then OMGUDS unvote?

this interests me...

Well the bomb role at least gets rid of a scum albeit at the cost of a hider. The loss of kiwi is bad tho cuz a hider could confirm pro-towns if I remember its role mechanics correctly.

Anywhoo I suspect two people now. A good part of yesterday consisted of bickering back nd forth between RD and CN. I suspect them both. The generic theory would be that it was orchestrated as a scum tactic so that they could distance themselves away from each other. That's a possibility but not a likely one. I think at least one of them is scum at this point.

First off RD. All the arguments against her were posted yesterday. To reiterate, first she pushed for the lynch of a (fake) claimed role when there was no counterclaim and she is not the actual dan jackson. What I'm thinking is that she is fir's scum buddy. She knew that he was a bomb and pushed for his lynch prematurely. Fircoal would sacrifice himself and if she was a key player in outing and lynching scum she would be cleared for at least a while. Second, she tried to say that she would take vengeance on whoever voted for her. This definitely sounded like a role mechanic. But afterwards she backtracked and attributed to a "hell hat no wrath like a woman scorned" type of thing. On the other hand she could just be in a case of saying the wrong thing the wrong way at the wrong time.

Spot on! She has changed her claim not twice but thrice now.

Which brings me to crabnebula. He did start the unsuccessful bandwagon on RD. The theory I have is this. He is fircoal's scum partner and seeing Xen's counterclaim was about to out fircoal, he would buy extra time by shifting focus on RD. With two same claims the best course of action would definitely have been to lynch one of them. We did in the end but crab definitely said the "better" course of action would be to lynch RD. He may have caught scum but a lynch on XC or fir would have been a definite scum outage. I only regret that I didn't catch on to this sooner. He has pretty much been confirmed as the vote-stealer ne? But a scum who can steal votes is not at all far-fetched. If I seem to remember some worm thingy took control of people's bodies? Correct me if I am wrong but stealing consciousness in the show could be equivalent to stealing votes in this game. (spiesr said scum politician is too overpowered. Not so. If CN is scum then yer next bud )

I had said lynching RD was the better course of action because at that point of time, it would have been disastrous to get either of them lynched. And yes I agree I overlooked the fact that a PGO would quite be useless once exposed/claimed and thus lynching him would have been the "better" course of action.

Anyway claim time for me, I am Senator Kinsey, politician. And I am town.

for my night actions, I stole on

Night 1 - rebelman's vote
Night 2 - mr. incrediball or Xencobra's vote, can't remember
Night 3 - Xencobra or mr. incrediball's vote, can't remember
Night 4 - Skittles!'s vote
Night 5 - none, no internet access

[CrabNebula]

OMGUS vote then OMGUDS unvote?

this interests me...

Well the bomb role at least gets rid of a scum albeit at the cost of a hider. The loss of kiwi is bad tho cuz a hider could confirm pro-towns if I remember its role mechanics correctly.

Anywhoo I suspect two people now. A good part of yesterday consisted of bickering back nd forth between RD and CN. I suspect them both. The generic theory would be that it was orchestrated as a scum tactic so that they could distance themselves away from each other. That's a possibility but not a likely one. I think at least one of them is scum at this point.

First off RD. All the arguments against her were posted yesterday. To reiterate, first she pushed for the lynch of a (fake) claimed role when there was no counterclaim and she is not the actual dan jackson. What I'm thinking is that she is fir's scum buddy. She knew that he was a bomb and pushed for his lynch prematurely. Fircoal would sacrifice himself and if she was a key player in outing and lynching scum she would be cleared for at least a while. Second, she tried to say that she would take vengeance on whoever voted for her. This definitely sounded like a role mechanic. But afterwards she backtracked and attributed to a "hell hat no wrath like a woman scorned" type of thing. On the other hand she could just be in a case of saying the wrong thing the wrong way at the wrong time.

Spot on! She has changed her claim not twice but thrice now.

Which brings me to crabnebula. He did start the unsuccessful bandwagon on RD. The theory I have is this. He is fircoal's scum partner and seeing Xen's counterclaim was about to out fircoal, he would buy extra time by shifting focus on RD. With two same claims the best course of action would definitely have been to lynch one of them. We did in the end but crab definitely said the "better" course of action would be to lynch RD. He may have caught scum but a lynch on XC or fir would have been a definite scum outage. I only regret that I didn't catch on to this sooner. He has pretty much been confirmed as the vote-stealer ne? But a scum who can steal votes is not at all far-fetched. If I seem to remember some worm thingy took control of people's bodies? Correct me if I am wrong but stealing consciousness in the show could be equivalent to stealing votes in this game. (spiesr said scum politician is too overpowered. Not so. If CN is scum then yer next bud )

I had said lynching RD was the better course of action because at that point of time, it would have been disastrous to get either of them lynched. And yes I agree I overlooked the fact that a PGO would quite be useless once exposed/claimed and thus lynching him would have been the "better" course of action.

Anyway claim time for me, I am Senator Kinsey, politician. And I am town.

for my night actions, I stole on

Night 1 - rebelman's vote
Night 2 - mr. incrediball or Xencobra's vote, can't remember
Night 3 - Xencobra or mr. incrediball's vote, can't remember
Night 4 - Skittles!'s vote
Night 5 - none, no internet access

[spiesr]

Spot on! She has changed her claim not twice but thrice now.

What do you have to say for yourself RD?

[Roger Dodger]

i don't know what to say about 3 times but, like i said before, i am jacob carter. i had to ask the mods cause i deleted the pm.

as far as blowing folks up i really didn't mean it. i was just blowing hot air. i never said yes i was a bomb. just wanted to see what happened.
crab got me upset when he started up with me and yes i said things i didn't mean. could be i was crazy in grief on hearing of the death of my beloved Sammy.

i also felt at that time that it really didn't matter what i said Crab had started a bandwagon and i thought i was gonna go anyway so, i had nothing to lose.

i am sorry for that.

now, whether you believe me or not is your choice.

[Roger Dodger]

Crab.. just because you are a politician doesn't mean that you are an honest politician. the Senator is a pretty cut throat kind of guy on Stargate.

he is not pro-stargate. he has been loking to shut them down.
+ buying votes is illegal. federal crime.
see you at Gitmo Senator.

[Roger Dodger]

Robert Kinsey

"Full Alert"
From 1996 through 2003, Senator Robert Kinsey held the position of chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Kinsey oversaw allocation of federal funds to various different government agencies, departments and organizations on an annual basis. As such, Kinsey is also one of Congress' leading overseers of the national defence budget. As Chairman of the Defense Appropriations Sub-Committee, he has taken a particularly special interest in - and meticulously tracked - defence requirements and spending, particularly for secret projects such as the Stargate Program.

Senator Kinsey first appeared in the episode "Politics", where he managed to shut down Stargate Command briefly, ignoring warnings of an imminent Goa'uld invasion and believing that Earth's current technological level would be adequate to fend off a direct attack. Although the program is later restarted, he stays as one of the show's main antagonists, trying first to shut down the program and later to take control over it.

It is later revealed that he was involved with the NID, a government agency that provides civilian oversight of top secret military operations. Kinsey and the NID appeared hell-bent on shutting down the Stargate program, citing its cost and ineffectiveness in defeating the Goa'uld, though SG-1 has learned that the NID's true motive is to exploit the alien technology that could be obtained through the Stargate.

In "Chain Reaction" he sought to use the NID to control the Stargate by blackmailing General Hammond into retirement, but his replacement was a very military-minded General whose actions resulted in the destruction of a planet and nearly led to the destruction of Earth from the radiation generated by the explosion. Thanks to investigation by Jack O'Neill, he was implicated in Harry Maybourne's illegal offworld operation, but got away scot-free by allowing General George Hammond to retake command of the SGC.

In "2001" Kinsey was interested in making an alliance with the Aschen to gain prestige- unconcerned about the Aschens' insistence that the Stargate be made public so they can make a deal with all of Earth's people- and even stops Col. O'Neill (who wants to stop this alliance because there is something strange about the Aschen) from reaching the White House. Nevertheless, after Daniel Jackson and Teal'c discover evidence of the Aschens' true motives (To sterilse most of Earth's population as use the remaining few as servants), the alliance fails, which infuriates Kinsey (It is worth noting that in the alternate reality witnessed in "2010", where the alliance went ahead, Kinsey achieved his goal of the presidency, but that timeline was erased by the actions of SG-1 after they learned the truth).

About one year later NID agent Malcolm Barrett coerced Kinsey into spying on the group controlling the rogue NID, known as "the Committee"; this is a cabal made up of international businessmen who, through various means, have learned of the Stargate's existence and hope to acquire alien technology for financial gain. Soon thereafter, the Committee tries to assassinate Kinsey and frame Col. O'Neill for his murder; however, their plan failes, as Kinsey survives the bullet, while Barret and the SGC together apprehend the Committee (Although O'Neill was far from happy at having to subewuently shake Kinsey's hand for the press).

Kinsey's ambition was to become President, and he was made Vice-President in the episode "Inauguration". Soon after, he tried again to take control of the Stargate program, trying to convince President Henry Hayes that the current leadership was a threat to national security. This attempt was foiled when NID Agent Richard Woolsey obtained incriminating evidence against him from General Hammond and gave it to President Hayes. When Elizabeth Weir took command of the SGC, Kinsey tried to sway her to his side, but she soon realised that he was out for himself. During Anubis attack on Earth, Kinsey tried to relieve Weir of command after she refused to allow him through the Stargate to escape Earth's destruction. Hayes, fed up with Kinsey, "accepted" his resignation.

In "Full Alert", the SGC convinces Kinsey to go undercover, wearing a concealed transmitter, in an attempt to flush out and capture the hierarchy of the Trust. Unfortunately, during the meeting, the Trust reveals that they care nothing for a meeting with any Russian officials, and have something completely unconnected - and thoroughly horrible - planned for Kinsey. His transmitter suddenly dissolves into static and, when the SGC soldiers stationed nearby storm the building, the entire Trust membership is gone. It is only later that they learn that the Trust has been completely infiltrated by the Goa'uld, taken through their operatives which had operated outside of the solar system, and they have, in fact, implanted a symbiote within Kinsey and are using him in their plans to start a nuclear war between the US and Russia. Kinsey vanished while attempting to flee aboard an Al'kesh after the SGC foiled the attempt; though the Al'Kesh was destroyed, it is not known if Kinsey died, as he was seen operating a transport device moments before the ship exploded

[rebelman]

i remember all those episodes and i definitely would see kinsey as opposed to sg1 as distinct from on their side rd never posted what happened in the episode where he went off world. yhat said i would not see him as scum either so im a bit confused. Having watched lovo's logic so far which at times has been >.< then im inclined to believe crab that he is a pro town politician and i can vouch for the fact he bought my vote night 1,

[lord voldemort]

Having watched lovo's logic so far which at times has been >.<

hey!!

[rebelman]

unvote vote speiser This still seems the most logical course of action to me

[rebelman]

Having watched lovo's logic so far which at times has been >.<

hey!!

[CrabNebula]

i don't know what to say about 3 times but, like i said before, i am jacob carter. i had to ask the mods cause i deleted the pm.

as far as blowing folks up i really didn't mean it. i was just blowing hot air. i never said yes i was a bomb. just wanted to see what happened.
crab got me upset when he started up with me and yes i said things i didn't mean. could be i was crazy in grief on hearing of the death of my beloved Sammy.

i also felt at that time that it really didn't matter what i said Crab had started a bandwagon and i thought i was gonna go anyway so, i had nothing to lose.

i am sorry for that.

now, whether you believe me or not is your choice.

So you mean you are not a bomb? okay, so what are you then? I do not buy the "I cannot reveal because lovo told me not to" reason.

[CrabNebula]

Also vote count please

[lord voldemort]

spiesr (4)- rebel, firth, french, kwan

8 for a lynch...

SETTING A DEADLINE 48 hours. if u cannot lynch by then, you suck

[CrabNebula]

vote spiesr

With 14 alive, I am inclined to believe there are more than 1 mafia remaining. And it is quite probable that Fircoal didn't know who his scum buddies are (going by mikeburnsfire site from which lovo took the roles).

[The Weird One]

I'm gonna vote spiesr

I'm still conflicted on this, though.

[Roger Dodger]

i am a person what else would i be?

why so defensive. you know i'm right about the senator. he is a thorn in SG1's side since day 1.
i think Lovo's logic is on the money.

but, despite that i will :


vote spiesr

but, to be honest with you it really doesn't matter how you get the votes. it is dishonorable. just as the character is. and, i would rather vote for you crab.

[Roger Dodger]

1 more to lynch. wow.

[The Weird One]

Well, speisr is now at lynch - 1, no?

[Roger Dodger]

you're right Crab you didn't buy the votes you stole the votes. much worst

[Roger Dodger]

UNVOTE=SPIESR


VOTE CRAB.

I HATE CROOKED POLITICIANS!