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Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:17 pm
by FloresDelMal
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
even if ani is a doc what makes you think that him will protect mandy?
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:29 pm
by mandalorian2298
FloresDelMal wrote:LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
even if ani is a doc what makes you think that him will protect mandy?
Given my lack of claim he would really have no reason to protect me. Also, if I miss, then Michael Corleone can ghost me tonight and save me the bother of claiming.

Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:56 pm
by animorpherv1
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
I ctually have my sights sent on protecting someone else right now, that is, if mandy won't claim right now.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:19 pm
by mandalorian2298
animorpherv1 wrote:LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
I ctually have my sights sent on protecting someone else right now, that is, if mandy won't claim right now.
No, problem Ani. As long as we lynch Militant, I'm cool with you protecting Sierra.

Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:21 am
by Sierra_Leon
FloresDelMal wrote:LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
even if ani is a doc what makes you think that him will protect mandy?
I agree with LSU. Mandy should claim NOW, not tomorrow.
Talapus, what's your role name?
And why are people voting militant? Seriously people. First Mandy says "I think we should be looking for Michael Corleone" and then he votes Militant because he suspects him to be the barzini cult leader! That's Bullshit with a capital B. We should be lynching Tonka as he's the only one we're (almost) sure of is mafia. With some luck, Militant will watch the right person tonight and we get a good lead for tomorrow.
Vote Tonka
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:00 am
by FloresDelMal
Sierra, you have striked me as suspiscious and scummy ever since i joined this game, so i have a gut feeling telling me to follow whatever but your lead, sorry dear, just the way things are ^^ the only reason i dont vote you is becausei know your cult buddies wont follow and will completely disregard it in the same fashion everyone disregarded animo's claim.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:26 am
by mandalorian2298
Sierra_Leon wrote:FloresDelMal wrote:LSU Tiger Josh wrote:in actuallity it has mandy so

no reason for you to wait especially with ani claiming doc

if you die during the night then we will know that ani is not a real doc and your sacrifice would not be in vain.
even if ani is a doc what makes you think that him will protect mandy?
I agree with LSU. Mandy should claim NOW, not tomorrow.
Talapus, what's your role name?
And why are people voting militant? Seriously people. First Mandy says "I think we should be looking for Michael Corleone" and then he votes Militant because he suspects him to be the barzini cult leader! That's Bullshit with a capital B. We should be lynching Tonka as he's the only one we're (almost) sure of is mafia. With some luck, Militant will watch the right person tonight and we get a good lead for tomorrow.
Vote Tonka
Thanks for confirming my theory, Cultie.
To Michael Corleone: Please NK the player (apart from Sierra and Ani) who fails to vote for Militant in the next 24 hours. Best case scenario, you find us a possible 4th cultie. Worst case scenario you rid us of the submarriner. Thanks in advance.

Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:57 am
by Sierra_Leon
mandalorian2298 wrote:Day 8 and 8 players left. Ok, either
Emilio Barzini has been the Cult Leader or we are all Cult and Nag just forgot to PM me.

Seriously guys, who here thinks that we should be looking for Michael Corleone and who thinks that Cult Leader still exists?
Personally, although I really can't see how could Cult Leader still exist, I am reluctant to go all out after Michael since he doesn't seem like much of a threat with LSU and Talapus Mason pair. On the other hand, perhaps LSU isn't Mother but Father to Talapus and Neotany.
FOS LSU
Let's rationalize (again).
1) We KNOW there is still mafia out there, because there have been kills nights 5 and 6. However, there was no night kill on night 7.
2) The ONLY two explanations for the mafia's kills failing are a) they chose a bulletproof target (Flores) or b) the doc (ani) protected the right person. No other roles have been claimed that can prevent a night kill.
3) Flores claimed bulletproof day 7. It would be very unlikely mafia targeted her on night 7. Thus, ani must be telling the truth and protected me from a night kill. This excludes him and myself from the list of potential mafia members.
4) So far, 7 mafia members have died. The game started with 35 players. Having at least 10/35 players mafia is not an unreasonable number. This means - assuming the Barzini's have died out or only have 1 recruit left - we could be at lynch or lose with 3 mafia members out of 8 players. Mandy's promise to claim tomorrow if we lynch Militant also has al sorts of alarm bells going off in my head warning me that we could be at lynch or lose.
5) If there are indeed 3 remaining mafia players left, they would have to be Mandy, Flores and Tonka. Tonka is the one we're most sure of, because his relation with exile already exposed him as such. He should be the lynch for today.
I'm not trying to convince those three of my case, this speech is mainly addressing LSU, Talapus, Militant and most importantly Animorpherv because he seems to be buying into Mandy's words. Please look back at the points I just mentioned and look at Mandy and Flores now ganging up to lynch Militant. Whatever you do, don't put Militant at L-1 or Tonka will be happy to hammer for the win.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:18 am
by FloresDelMal
Sierra_Leon wrote:
5) If there are indeed 3 remaining mafia players left, they would have to be Mandy, Flores and Tonka. Tonka is the one we're most sure of, because his relation with exile already exposed him as such. He should be the lynch for today.
first please elaborate, what arguments do you have for say that either mandy or myself are 2 of the 3 mafia remaining, this is the biggest bs hollow affirmation i have seen so far (besides assuming just because you have a cult cautive audience that animo could protect mandy)..
And second, me ganging up with mandy for lynch animo? are you serious? so if someone follow the lead of someone who is not you is ganging up, but if someone follows your faulty logic all is fine and dandy? great, no matter how you look at this it reaks of ad hominem fallacy.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:14 am
by militant
What can I say, I am a claimed tracker. Anyway, at the moment I am suspicious of Mandy, becasue he is extremly persistent in getting me lynched

Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:30 pm
by Sierra_Leon
militant wrote:What can I say, I am a claimed tracker. Anyway, at the moment I am suspicious of Mandy, becasue he is extremly persistent in getting me lynched

Militant, your role name was Jack Woltz, right? Did you look him up on wiki? Do you think he fits the tracker role?
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:28 pm
by mandalorian2298
This sucks. It's becoming pretty obvious that Militant has recruited either LSU or Talapus (safe recruitment choices). Thus, we are currently on 4 vs. 4 against the Cult. Our only hope is that Militant will make the wrong recruitment choice and pick Michael Corleone. Either that or Cult wins.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:52 pm
by militant
Sierra_Leon wrote:militant wrote:What can I say, I am a claimed tracker. Anyway, at the moment I am suspicious of Mandy, becasue he is extremly persistent in getting me lynched

Militant, your role name was Jack Woltz, right? Did you look him up on wiki? Do you think he fits the tracker role?
I keep getting this mixed up, I am a watcher, I even got mixed up when I sent my pm to nag. I watch young girls, so my role does fit.
militant wrote:Okay, I am a watcher. My name is Jack Woltz.
My results are:
Serbia watched Nark Night 1
Selin, Ga7, Wicked all visited him
Serbia watched / Night 2
Rebelman visited him
I have not been recruited by the cult.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:03 pm
by animorpherv1
animorpherv1 wrote: unvote? vote: Militiant same here
Mandy- proof I HAVE voted for miltiant, and I haven't unvoted yet.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:13 pm
by mandalorian2298
animorpherv1 wrote:animorpherv1 wrote: unvote? vote: Militiant same here
Mandy- proof I HAVE voted for miltiant, and I haven't unvoted yet.
But even I was wrong about you, the fact that Militant isn't hanging yet means that Cult recruited BOTH Talapus and LSU. We're still screwed. (Actually it's even worse for you. Were you Cultie you would be on the winning side.)
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:17 pm
by animorpherv1
that last bit is somehow suspicous, it makes you seem Culite already, and with that.
unvote vote: mandalorian
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:02 pm
by FloresDelMal
animorpherv1 wrote:that last bit is somehow suspicous, it makes you seem Culite already, and with that.
unvote vote: mandalorian
Can you explain what exactly seemed suspiscious to you and why? this sudden change of heart seems suspiscious to me.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:22 pm
by animorpherv1
mandalorian2298 wrote: (Actually it's even worse for you. Were you Cultie you would be on the winning side.)
I think this means she already is Culite, and the sentence above it is just a poor diguise.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:23 pm
by Talapus
mandalorian2298 wrote:This sucks. It's becoming pretty obvious that Militant has recruited either LSU or Talapus (safe recruitment choices). Thus, we are currently on 4 vs. 4 against the Cult. Our only hope is that Militant will make the wrong recruitment choice and pick Michael Corleone. Either that or Cult wins.
How is this obvious?!? If I were recruited I think I'd know about. More and more I think you are the scum and pointing your fingers in other directions. That's why I think you are the safe lynch and michael can off mili tonight. Why such resistanece mandy???Soemthing to hide

Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:07 am
by mandalorian2298
Talapus wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:This sucks. It's becoming pretty obvious that Militant has recruited either LSU or Talapus (safe recruitment choices). Thus, we are currently on 4 vs. 4 against the Cult. Our only hope is that Militant will make the wrong recruitment choice and pick Michael Corleone. Either that or Cult wins.
How is this obvious?!? If I were recruited I think I'd know about. More and more I think you are the scum and pointing your fingers in other directions. That's why I think you are the safe lynch and michael can off mili tonight. Why such resistanece mandy???Soemthing to hide

Look, if there really are 4 Culties out there, then act like real men, vote No Lynch and let's finish this, you bunch of saps.
If there are 3 or less Culties, then I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed with Tonka (submarrining) and Talapus (not using his ol' noodle). On the other hand, i must commend Flores for showing wisdom beyond her years.

Too, bad that we+re still both going to lose, but everything is easier when one has good company.
Seriously Tal, have you been sniffing glue or something? I say that you or LSU might have been recruited (which means that we are 4 vs. 4 against the Cult), and you brilliantly refute it by saying that YOU haven't been recruited?! How does it prove that LSU hasn't been recruited?
Look, I don't know what kind of Masons you two are. If you are the "If at least one of you survives you win" type, fine, ignore me and have Militant recruit you tonight to ensure your win. On the othere hand, if you are pro-town Masons, then it's time to assume the worse and cut your loses.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:41 am
by Sierra_Leon
militant wrote:Sierra_Leon wrote:militant wrote:What can I say, I am a claimed tracker. Anyway, at the moment I am suspicious of Mandy, becasue he is extremly persistent in getting me lynched

Militant, your role name was Jack Woltz, right? Did you look him up on wiki? Do you think he fits the tracker role?
I keep getting this mixed up, I am a watcher, I even got mixed up when I sent my pm to nag. I watch young girls, so my role does fit.
militant wrote:Okay, I am a watcher. My name is Jack Woltz.
My results are:
Serbia watched Nark Night 1
Selin, Ga7, Wicked all visited him
Serbia watched / Night 2
Rebelman visited him
I have not been recruited by the cult.
Hehe, alright. I noticed the tracker/watcher mixup and figured I'd test to see if it was a mistake or a slip-up.
Now why is nobody voting Tonka?!!
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:27 am
by got tonkaed
nobody is voting me for the same reason that nobody voted for me yesterday sierra obviously im not a threat, although i am submarining quite badly. I think you still stand out as someone who could potentially be the cult leader, as given the fact that your line of argument consistently disregards the possiblity of a cult, when given the nature of 2 players bond, and the replacements the way that they were earlier in the game its very possible there still is a cult. i dont know if i believe the cult starts with the same person that the witchhunt is currently on about, but i do believe there still is a cult leader out there.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:39 am
by FloresDelMal
got tonkaed wrote:nobody is voting me for the same reason that nobody voted for me yesterday sierra obviously im not a threat, although i am submarining quite badly. I think you still stand out as someone who could potentially be the cult leader, as given the fact that your line of argument consistently disregards the possiblity of a cult,
Exactly sierra, even thought we do know him is a corleone and most likely mafia, there are worst threats out there, and exactly as him said, you fail to acknowledge that completely.
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:24 pm
by mandalorian2298
Yo, pro-town-submarrine-hero!

How about a vote for Militant, the evil Cult leader?
Re: GODFATHER MAFIA - September 1969 Day 8.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:20 pm
by Sierra_Leon
I'm sure the mafia would very much like us to believe there is a cult we need to hunt.