[OFFICIAL] Stack the Deck mafia (4/12)Endgame: MAFIA WIN

[bosaardbeitje]

@ TWR There are zero clues available to us about the powers mafia may or may not have chosen. I am not going to waste valuable time on speculating about it. The only thing that may be visible to Town on day 1 is day chat and perhaps the recruiting thing but it's a stretch. We won't have a clue about the roles until we have had a night. Based on night actions we may be able to puzzle some things together.

@ Mitch Now you confused me, no offence. Experienced players, which of the roles that may be in this game will a Tracker be able to see?

[Iron Butterfly]

yikes, l-2....thats disappointing. Didn't really want to claim today but it seems that i am being forced to do that.

I have being given the role of tracker, a role that i have not played before. I can choose one person each night to follow if they go anywhere, apparently i will not know what they do, but will know that they have done something and i will know who their target was.

guys, let me live and if i get night protection i could be very useful tomorrow.

unvote TWR

[Endgame422]

Unvote TWR
Who do you read as scum rose?
Your claim makes sense to me and if your scum youll have to just take a total guess as to someones actions tonight since you will have to claim who you tracked tomorrow.
@Boss Tracker can see any role besides ninja. This includes other town roles as well as standard scum kills and scum PRs like RBr(but not nightchat options) at night.
Its kind of a weaker version of cop,as if tracker follows player x,finds out they visited player y,and player y shows up dead in the morning theres a good chance youve tracked scum.
It can also help prove players town. Here tracker follows player x,sees he visited player y. The next day player x says "i investigated player y and player y is scum"the trackers secondary evidence eliminates alot of doubt.
In short it can be a helpful role to town,and will be a tough claim for him to fake.

[the white rose]

tbh endgame, the only thing i picked up on was PT's excuse for not posting. Its really very tentative, the only other thing i can add is that i have a strong feeling that anam is town, but with no votes on him, i guess that is not very helpful. Any body else and i would be basically guessing.

we defo need to lynch someone, but its pretty much pot luck whether we get scum or not. Sounds awfully scummy i know but think i would be happy to lynch anyone other than anam rather than have a no lynch.

[bosaardbeitje]

@ End Fully understood, thank you!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

anam i didnt agree with all sides, i actually agreed with bos on it being a strange question... asking for specific details as to what she finds scummy is different to just asking why mitch wasnt scummy to her... however upon reading your post you actually did side with both of them so not sure how you find me scummy for it?

I might have misinterpreted your comment, since the phrasing was pretty weird... Thanks for the clarification, though I still maintain that those posts didn't add much value other than giving the appearance that you were active in the game. And no, I sided with bosaa on the question, and acknowledged the overreaction, but concluded that nobody's actions in this whole sequence of events was particularly scummy.

not sure how rose, tim and i are the 3 most suspicious people when there are so many not posting much at all.. it seems scum would be more interested in us killing players who are in here writing than those who dont come here at all... especially after it was mars that made the point about the daytalk and the scum being busy.. but yet the 3 suspects are the ones that have been in here posting

Again, there's a difference between posting token comments, and posting contributing opinions. At that point yours all fell under the former.

That said, I can see that you've since been more active, and are posting opinions clearly of your own, rather than simply repeating information. You've gone down on my scumdar, though not entirely; but I think we have bigger fish to fry. So I shall unvote.

Anyone else see this as being a really quick change of opinion? Not quite sure what Rizky did to be said to be posting his own opinons.

AnaManiac - Who are the bigger fish to fry?

Is PT still ill....

I dont see the case on Dakky being that big. I also dont particularly feel that either side of Boss/IB being mafia. I'm pretty stumped, maybe its because I give newer players a lot of benefit of the doubt, I dont know. Not enough data points.

My strongest read is still Mars, but I cant nail him, so believe this is one for me to watch carefully as its clear that its not even close to a majority view.

Over thought, 1 of the mafia players may not be known to the others, so were possibly looking for a pair of players and an independent defender of this pair, rather than a normal trio. With this thought, the following post takes on a whole new meaning.

vote bos because shes not in my other games

That makes little sense. Boss can be a unique read to this game rather than muddying the waters by having to seperate out her play in more than one game.

This. Unlike others I feel no need to be in 3 games at the same time

but but but, your my new buddy

Am I reading too much into that?

[the white rose]

wing, that was a good spot, could it be that ptlowe is the mafia traitor and is dropping a hint to his scum buddy bos? this would assume 2 things, 1. scum did not recruit the mafia traitor, 2. bos is scum.

could ptlowe be dropping a hint to bos, that he is the traitor? would be very daring?

pt, could you give us an explanation as to what you meant by 'but but but, your my new buddy'?

[anamainiacks]

As mentioned in my earlier post, I'm still not convinced by dakky.

Vote dakky21, but as things stand, I would be equally fine with a TWR lynch.

I guess you would be equally fine for anyone's lynch ... that makes you, well, you know what...

I did explain in my earlier post who my top suspects were for the moment. So no, not quite anyone's lynch. And still nothing helpful to add to the game. My vote stays.

If we lynch dakky and he flips scum, then TWR should be more or less confirmed town OR mafia traitor, since dakky has been sort of tunnelling him. If dakky flips town, then that gives us no information other than who votes for him.

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I believe TWR's claim for now. Tracker would be a pretty risky claim for a mafia, since they wouldn't know if the role is even out there (unless they didn't add on any powers), and risk getting counterclaimed. And for every power they took, the chance of Tracker being in the game goes up by 33%.

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Anyone else see this as being a really quick change of opinion? Not quite sure what Rizky did to be said to be posting his own opinons.

AnaManiac - Who are the bigger fish to fry?

Compared to his posts that I quoted, his posts of late have been a vast improvement in quality. Sizing things and players up, posting his opinions on them. He may not be explicitly stating it, like "sounds scummy" etc, but his choice of words do reveal his inclinations towards players. As for the bigger fish, I do mention them in the second half of the post which you quoted.

We now actually have quite a few players who are staying out the action... PT, IB, Tim. Would like to hear more from them.

My read on Mars is still neutral... hasn't done anything I've found particularly suspicious or innocent.

Interesting point about the mafia traitor; PT will probably say it was just a joke though, like he said when he was questioned earlier.

[ptlowe]

yikes, l-2....thats disappointing. Didn't really want to claim today but it seems that i am being forced to do that.

I have being given the role of tracker, a role that i have not played before. I can choose one person each night to follow if they go anywhere, apparently i will not know what they do, but will know that they have done something and i will know who their target was.

guys, let me live and if i get night protection i could be very useful tomorrow.

vote TWR as I doubt there are two trackers in this game...yeah and this is me claiming

[ptlowe]

wing, that was a good spot, could it be that ptlowe is the mafia traitor and is dropping a hint to his scum buddy bos? this would assume 2 things, 1. scum did not recruit the mafia traitor, 2. bos is scum.

could ptlowe be dropping a hint to bos, that he is the traitor? would be very daring?

pt, could you give us an explanation as to what you meant by 'but but but, your my new buddy'?

Just me being dumb and linking other games. I need to stop that. Was very happy about the win in political. I dont see why it keeps comming up. I am back, still sick and yesterday had a 15 hour work day since I missed the day before. Im looking through the posts again for other reads. I will post on it soon. Also working on other game as well so give me some time tonight. On a further note, to clarify, I have the powers of a tracker and the role of a VT, not sure how the hell that plays in but Im not buying TWRs claim since I know I am that. Was a little shocked to get VT then aquire powers wierd. Anyways, gives you guys maybe some more insight.

[Marashu]

Active post - been an unexpectedly really busy couple days. Will post after work tomorrow.

[Marashu]

Posted that, then caught up on what I missed - Vote Rose.

[ptlowe]

Town will start with 2 power roles, a cop and a bodyguard. For each power that mafia has chosen, an additional power will be given to Town. This will be randomly chosen from this list:

-Roleblocker
-Tracker
-Vigilante
-Innocent Child (reveal at start of day one)


What are the odds we have two trackers??? looks like it is possible but im not sure I believe it.

[ptlowe]

[OFFICIAL] Stack the Deck mafia (12/12) D1: The Stacked Deck

Postby Streaker on Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:59 pm
This will be the Official Game for November.

A 3.500 CC credit prize will be awarded to the mvp of the game, this will be a majority vote. MVP will be chosen from the winning team.

Please read the setup carefully, it's a little tricky but quite ordinary at the same time. If you have any questions post them in the thread or PM me.

The Setup:

-2 Mafia Goon (will not know who traitor is, unless they recruit him)
-1 Mafia Traitor (will know both other mafia goons)
-9 Town

The specs:

When signups finish, there will be a 72-hour interval in which mafia get to discuss in their QT. Here they will have to decide what powers they want for their team, and who will carry what power. A maximum of 3 power roles may be chosen:

-Bulletproof
-Role Cop
-JOAT (1 shot Strongman, 1 shot Ninja)
-Daytalk (passive ability)
-Recruit Traitor as Mafia Goon (this is an insta-use power and will recruit the Traitor as a mafia goon into mafia ranks prior to game start).

Town will start with 2 power roles, a cop and a bodyguard. For each power that mafia has chosen, an additional power will be given to Town. This will be randomly chosen from this list:

Sorry for the crazy amount of posts....but if i read this right. We could have up to three additional power roles...so randomly selecting might get us two trackers I guess....of course be outing it before I reread the rules doesnt help....Im assuming 3 mafia with one traitor probably already recruited. I assume that the traitor will be experienced. I dont see why people wouldn't pick the most experienced to play this game.

[ptlowe]

ok I just spent way to much time understanding probability. It appears probability of us both being trackers is 9.375% I get that with the forumula of .25^2X2/3

Anyways will post more tomorrow and in the evening

[TimWoodbury]

so do we lynch TWR and if he flips town lynch pt?? or do we jsut go with aybe there are 2 trackers?

[rizky_biznezz]

I don't know what to make of this I need some more experienced players to help me out with this one.... What do we do? Do we believe there is 2 trackers and vote someone else and wait for nightkill with 2 roles out there surely one of them would be mafia killed?
Do we believe pt and assume rose was just a panicked last ditch attempt to stop the lynching? Or is pt playing us

[Iron Butterfly]

Town will start with 2 power roles, a cop and a bodyguard. For each power that mafia has chosen, an additional power will be given to Town. This will be randomly chosen from this list:

-Roleblocker
-Tracker
-Vigilante
-Innocent Child (reveal at start of day one)


What are the odds we have two trackers??? looks like it is possible but im not sure I believe it.

You are claiming tracker as well??

NO there would not be two trackers.

[rizky_biznezz]

The roles still throw me so can someone tell me if rose encouraging the town roleblocker not to use his power tonight is scummy or not please?

[Iron Butterfly]

Town will start with 2 power roles, a cop and a bodyguard. For each power that mafia has chosen, an additional power will be given to Town. This will be randomly chosen from this list:

-Roleblocker
-Tracker
-Vigilante
-Innocent Child (reveal at start of day one)


What are the odds we have two trackers??? looks like it is possible but im not sure I believe it.

When it is said randomly chosen there would be a roll for every role that mafia took. Once a roll is given it would be scratched off. For the sake of example lets say mafia chooses 3 roles. Having Town roll 3 Innocent Child roles would be stupid. I read it, and through experience, the roles are choosen from the pool a max of one time and removed from the list.

For the sake of clarity it should be confirmed by the mod but I am fairly certain either rose or Ptlowe are lying.

[TimWoodbury]

im kinda inclined to believe PT as if PT is lying what dose pt gain from it yah we lych TWR now and when he flips and found hes told the truth PT then gets lynched the following day and skum is 1 less person(this i only if mod says the role was scrached off as IB is saying.

[Endgame422]

Vote TWR
One of them has to be lying,and im betting its rose,i thought he was scummy already so easy choice between these 2 for me.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Rizky - PTlowe is counter claiming The White Rose. ONE of them is mafia.

So vote either Ptlowe or White Rose. If they flip town, we lynch the other tomorrow. Its nice when mafia becomes so simple.

Vote White Rose

[the white rose]

On a further note, to clarify, I have the powers of a tracker and the role of a VT, not sure how the hell that plays in but Im not buying TWRs claim since I know I am that. Was a little shocked to get VT then aquire powers wierd. Anyways, gives you guys maybe some more insight.

This is complete bullshit. I was not given the role of VT then acquired the role of tracker. I was simply given the role tracker with town allegiance.

those with other town powers would be able to verify.....endgame only sends one pm, with role and allegiance, so pt how the hell can you say you were first given VT and then acquired the power of tracker, sorry mate, but thats not how the game works.

100% scum for me now.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Streaker is the mod of this game... are you sure you've read the correct pm? I'll be honest I'll probably still vote for you.

At the beginning of the game all town aligned players receive a "Vanilla Town" role. Once mafia has selected their abilities all town roles go out. This prevents claims of "received roles before/after mafia modifications".