Conquer Club

mandalorian2298 wrote:

Fircoal wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:

ga7 wrote:Of course I'm washing my hand off that, as I reread and didn't convince myself. Not my fault if you thought I was making sense when I wasn't
Besides, I don't see how I went to the other direction either, Koesen's statement is way scummier. I understand why you would want to lynch Aim, but IMO it's pretty random at this point.

Well, there is one way to know for sure.unvote
vote ga7

Huh? What is this vote on him for?

Fos: mandy

You are probably not going to belive me, but there are posts above that one that you quoted. Try reading them and all will be clear.

FOS Fircoal for skimming.

I never skimmed, I never saw, or remember any proof, for your vote.

I also agree about the deadline thing, if they've been put in place we should follow them.

I personally like having a clearly defined deadline that we stick to, it helps keep the game ordered and running smooth.

I would like Gimpy replaced if he is not going to play...

That said.

Unvote

Vote: ga7

convincing arguments that people have made.

FOS: Koesen

The argument that I prevent Mandy from pushing for an Aimless lynch or the argument that I change my opinion reasonably?

ga7 wrote:The argument that I prevent Mandy from pushing for an Aimless lynch or the argument that I change my opinion reasonably?

The argument Serbia made a few posts up.

Hmmm. My two cents regarding ga7 :

His reasoning regarding why he backtracked is sound, but that doesn't particularly mean anything; it's not terribly hard to come up with a plausible rationale for any action taken in the game.

As for the backtracking itself; that's a traditional scum technique for starting a bandwagon and then trying to look town after the lynch.

That said, since I'm the catalyst for this particular fight, I've been staying out of it. My gut feeling on ga7 is that he might be scum, with emphasis on the "might" - I can see it both ways.

So, my vote is staying put, for now. If the deadline becomes an issue I will, as always, switch it so that we get a lynch; but, for now, I'll let you guys hash it out amongst yourselves.

With the lineup in this game, I expected a lot more than this. I haven't been on here in over 24 hours, and there's not even a PAGE more posts to read through. Where is everyone???? I mean, we're not even getting any spam right now. Are people going to play this game or not?

As a side to Anark, I believe Gimpy said he was going away until Sunday or Monday....

gimpyThewonder wrote:confirm.

as an fyi i'll be at comic-con until sunday so please don't kill me in the interim like that non-vanilla game (jeez a guy leaves for the 4th and comes back lynched, and never given a chance to defend himself). Actually i'm kinda looking forward to missing all the day 1 finger pointing

Here's the quote here.

Aimless wrote:Hmmm. My two cents regarding ga7 :

His reasoning regarding why he backtracked is sound, but that doesn't particularly mean anything; it's not terribly hard to come up with a plausible rationale for any action taken in the game.

As for the backtracking itself; that's a traditional scum technique for starting a bandwagon and then trying to look town after the lynch.

That said, since I'm the catalyst for this particular fight, I've been staying out of it. My gut feeling on ga7 is that he might be scum, with emphasis on the "might" - I can see it both ways.

So, my vote is staying put, for now. If the deadline becomes an issue I will, as always, switch it so that we get a lynch; but, for now, I'll let you guys hash it out amongst yourselves.

While that may be true Aimless, I"m not convinced on GA being scum as much as I am over what seems to be an antitown type statement from Koeson while leaving. Any Joe Blow protownie should rather a lynch than a no lynch at this point in the game. Koeson made it very clear that he would rather have day 1 end without a lynch instead of getting extra time to get a lynch. While that may not be much to go on, to me it's enough for my day 1 vote as I don't know who is who in here.

ga7 wrote:Serbia, you're putting the things out of context. I don't see how I backtracked, or that Mandy's case for Aimless has any other basis than randomness. Aimless' case on you was awfully weak, but I can't blame him for getting things started. Anyhow, I found it weird that Mandy wants to get rid of a potentially townie asset just because, and can't endorse a lynch like that; so if you think searching for something that made more sense is backtracking, fine, I have no defense for that

I looked back. It's meaning doesn't change.

That's the entire premise of Day 1.

This I can understand. If I were drunk, I wouldn't trust a word I said. That doesn't clear you, though. The vote on Koesen was scumtacular, so my vote stays where it is.

I don't see what's so scummy about Ga7. Koesen is WAY scummier.

For the vote on Koesen I reached the same conclusion as LSU just stated, what's so scumtacular about it?

Koesen wrote:Gone today and tomorrow, back on Sunday.

Vote against extensions

If people can't get their act together, they should accept the consequences. I don't like games that drag on forever. A deadline is a deadline.

Well, to recall the facts, here was the original post. At that point there was 36h to go (original deadline) and the most votes being 3, on Mandy.
Again, I can understand for the dragging on part but the added factor of being absent for the deadline really doesn't make sense in a town POV to me.

Hrm. Sry I haven't been posting much but:

1. I wasn't home for half the day.

2. This game has me zonked and I dunno what to say.

I'll attempt to BS some points tho

From what I gather ga7 is being voted on because he accused aimless of slipping up. I think aimless accusing serbia for making a frivolous post (moot point now it was resolved) was him just fishing for a reason in a sea of spam. He said himself that people jumping on him for what he did was what he expected. Ga7 that did not warrant an accusation on him. Then again ga7 was apparently "drunk" at the time. After people jumped on ga7 for jumping on aimless for jumping on serbia (AHHHHHHH!), he proceeded unvote to FOS me for voting freezie.(thanks! why am I defending you?). Why vote him for this? He saw that he was wrong and rescinded his accusations. Backtracking is a scum tell I guess but you guys are reading too much into things. it's the first day and he was looking for any reason to vote someone. He took a shot and it didnt' work so he took it back. Would any of you do different? Aimless took back his accusations on serbia(I think?) And I took back mine on freezie (after he posted).

Ironic thing is, Ga7 Fos'd me cuz I attempted "to bring blame off of serbia(I voted freezie before aimless voted serbia and I was only reiterating my points). And he was trying to do exactly what he accused me of and try to take the heat off himself.

O and I don't understand why there's a vote on koesen. He did not outright say he wanted no lynch ( at least I dun think so). Again, I think you guys are reading too much into things. He was leaving and did not favor a deadline extension(a view commonly shared by a good portion of you guys). Just two different thoughts expressed in a way that made him look falsely scummy.

If it gets close to deadline ga is a good backup but nothing really stands out now. I have my suspicions on ga but it's nothing to warrant a lynch.

I had more I wanted to say but I spaced out while i was typing this and forgot it.

Sure, Kwan he didn't mean it exactly, but when we have nothing, it's better than nothing. And he could of meant it. It's still scummy.

Kwanton, I think you misread some things there:

I'm not being voted for accusing Aim, I'm being voted for changing my vote. I didn't take a shot, see that it didn't work and changed my vote though; Mandy was convinced there was a need to lynch Aim for one. I could have stayed shut up and watch things unfold, but nahh I had to read back everything

I FOSed you because something struck me as odd in your answer to Freezie, since you were the first to adress Aim's accusation on Serbia and stating that Freezie was a better lynch as he was inactive. Your answer made it sound pretty different, hence the FOS. It wasn't about the Serbia thing, I wouldn't go so far in inconsistence

About Koesen, and our assumed rampant paranoïa, maybe I'm wrong but I think on the contrary that Day 1 is ideal for spawning many suspicions and reading much into things, as it provides at least more input for the following days.

Clouded, our minds have become. Find evidence, you must or your stupidity, doom us it will. Spoken, I have.

Minister Masket wrote:Clouded, our minds have become. Find evidence, you must or your stupidity, doom us it will. Spoken, I have.

Evidence in a mafia game find you will not. Only indications. Clouded is the future. If ga7 lynch we do, know more we will.

mandalorian2298 wrote:

Minister Masket wrote:Clouded, our minds have become. Find evidence, you must or your stupidity, doom us it will. Spoken, I have.

Evidence in a mafia game find you will not. Only indications. Clouded is the future. If ga7 lynch we do, know more we will.

The deadline is in 8 hours

There is no point posting another vote count as only one person has voted since the last one.

Regarding potential replacements, Koesen and Gimpy are supposedly back today. Freezie has been deadbeating in all his risk games as well, theres no point in prodding him as no doubt he'll check here next time he logs onto conquer club. However, if he becomes too inactive I will seek to replace him.

I am out most of this evening but as long as I don't get stuck in traffic on my way home I should be back for the deadline. If the inevitable happens and I'm late no votes will count once the deadline passes.

I'll go for an Unvote


And

Vote: Ga7

Even thought I hate the fact serbia has made a whole case against him. I do NOT trust Serbia at all. Neither do I kwanton either.

But until then, Ga7 it is.

Just saying..Sorry again. I do not make it itentional to deadbeat everywhere everytimes.

I will try and keep up the pace of this game, but I won't be in other mafias for a while. Neither will I start another risk game.

I DO want to see the end of this game ( Assuming I live it ) so don't replace me. But be aware my job is draining every of my moments very well...Along the 7th Harry Potter, card tournaments and friends...



Again..Sorry.

Vote ga7
Fos LSU

I did NOT say I didn't want a lynch. That's a complete misinterpretation of my words. I said I wanted the deadline to be enforced.

Everybody who has played a few games with me knows that I always try to get people lynched, even if I'm scum myself.

Say what you will, but in my experience every game in which deadlines are extended is worse than every game in which they are not. The point of the deadline to to get people to play and take action. If they are lazy, saying "oh well, I didn't REALLY mean the deadline was today, now it is tomorrow, unless you still don't get your act together, in which case it's next week" does not work. It enourages laziness and inactivity.

If there are no deadlines to begin with, fine. If the deadline is 96 hours, fine. But don't move it around, cause that's not what deadlines are for. I've been a journalist for fifteen years, so maybe I feel different about it than other people, but to me deadlines are holy. Even in a silly game.

Finally, I clearly said I'd be back before the original deadline, so this whole "he doesn't want a lynch" routine is nothing but a scummy distortion of my words.

Hence the vote.

Unvote if need be vote ga7

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