Romeo and Juliet Mafia - Capulets win! AND WICKED ROCKS!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:02 am

Also, where'd Jake go???

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:24 am

wicked wrote:Why is everyone voting Kwan? I don't see what he did to look guilty?

Exactly. Which is why I asked them to explain why they voted. No explanation yet.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:26 am

Well, partly because he was slightly scummy from yesterday, but then especially because he said he has this trump card, which I'm just not seeing.

Were it not for that, I'd probably go for diddle.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:32 am

The1exile wrote:Well, partly because he was slightly scummy from yesterday, but then especially because he said he has this trump card, which I'm just not seeing.

Were it not for that, I'd probably go for diddle.

Obviously you don't see my "trump card" or it wouldn't be a trump card. It's something I'm gonna keep secret til I need to reveal it.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:33 am

Well, I can think of a couple of possibilities, most of which don't work.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:50 am

Mmh reading back I can't say I find Kwan more scummy than those who are trying to get us off the idea of 2 mafia by brandishing the SK menace, when it's obvious for anyone town and after Cena's claim that we're looking at 2 mafia with 3 each but in which I suspect both R&J are town, meaning since 2 montague antagonists died 2 capulet are left to kill, this sentence is so long that I'm losing my point...
*takes breath*
Anyhow, Kwan has been laying pretty low in day 1, popping at the end after Cena's claim, and now this trump card thing is bugging me a bit. By saying that, if you're town there's chances you'd get NKed, so I assume you wouldn't take the risk to say you have an ace in your sleeve... I can't think of other options that would let you have a free pass, so I have a feeling you're bluffing there

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:55 am

ga7 wrote:Mmh reading back I can't say I find Kwan more scummy than those who are trying to get us off the idea of 2 mafia by brandishing the SK menace

care to answer the vig point?

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:55 am

ga7 wrote:Mmh reading back I can't say I find Kwan more scummy than those who are trying to get us off the idea of 2 mafia by brandishing the SK menace, when it's obvious for anyone town and after Cena's claim that we're looking at 2 mafia with 3 each but in which I suspect both R&J are town, meaning since 2 montague antagonists died 2 capulet are left to kill, this sentence is so long that I'm losing my point...
*takes breath*
Anyhow, Kwan has been laying pretty low in day 1, popping at the end after Cena's claim, and now this trump card thing is bugging me a bit. By saying that, if you're town there's chances you'd get NKed, so I assume you wouldn't take the risk to say you have an ace in your sleeve... I can't think of other options that would let you have a free pass, so I have a feeling you're bluffing there

also, by revealing that you've got a trump card, immediatly makes you a threat, and a vunerable threat at that, so either your extremely useful in this game or your bluffing, either way, we need to know more, so i'm gonna vote kwan

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:57 am

The1exile wrote:
ga7 wrote:Mmh reading back I can't say I find Kwan more scummy than those who are trying to get us off the idea of 2 mafia by brandishing the SK menace
care to answer the vig point?

What vig point? The fact because a role is named Vig he must be town?

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:00 pm

No, that mafia don't have vigs. As lonjg as any of their characters are alive they can kill.

I don't doubt that the monty's and cappy's are third party, but third party != mafia.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:02 pm

diddle wrote:
ga7 wrote:Mmh reading back I can't say I find Kwan more scummy than those who are trying to get us off the idea of 2 mafia by brandishing the SK menace, when it's obvious for anyone town and after Cena's claim that we're looking at 2 mafia with 3 each but in which I suspect both R&J are town, meaning since 2 montague antagonists died 2 capulet are left to kill, this sentence is so long that I'm losing my point...
*takes breath*
Anyhow, Kwan has been laying pretty low in day 1, popping at the end after Cena's claim, and now this trump card thing is bugging me a bit. By saying that, if you're town there's chances you'd get NKed, so I assume you wouldn't take the risk to say you have an ace in your sleeve... I can't think of other options that would let you have a free pass, so I have a feeling you're bluffing there
also, by revealing that you've got a trump card, immediatly makes you a threat, and a vunerable threat at that, so either your extremely useful in this game or your bluffing, either way, we need to know more, so i'm gonna vote kwan

unvote

i've been thinking, he could be more influential to this game then first thought, i know he has been acting pretty scummy, but i'm going to wait for a claim, if one comes

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:10 pm

Well, I suppose you can't know this, but town's WC is pretty clear on this. This is set up differently than 2 "regular" mafia, ie the scum parties are both Capulet and Montague (probably minus R&J, which is why I think you should stick around) and seeing their number, it makes sense that they wouldn't have the same abilities as a normal mafia faction.
We already know 2 Montague roles, and can safely assume the same roles are on the Capulet side.
Everyone has been focused on the fact there was only 1 NK tonight, and AD has been saying Tybalt is a SK, but Fir could have well targeted someone protected by the Capulet bodyguard, and Tybalt would obviously be the Capulet vig.
I do think once this one is dead we won't see any other NK.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:16 pm

kwanton wrote:
The1exile wrote:Well, partly because he was slightly scummy from yesterday, but then especially because he said he has this trump card, which I'm just not seeing.

Were it not for that, I'd probably go for diddle.
Obviously you don't see my "trump card" or it wouldn't be a trump card. It's something I'm gonna keep secret til I need to reveal it.

Well, I think you are Tybalt, personally. You are a good player who can participate very well and would know who to take out at night without looking like an obvious noob.

The only other person in this game that I give that much credit to is Wicked.

So, it is either you or Wicked that I would vote for, but you were slumming earlier, and I think the "trump card" is just you lying to try and get us confused... So, my vote on you stands.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:18 pm

ga7 wrote:Well, I suppose you can't know this, but town's WC is pretty clear on this. This is set up differently than 2 "regular" mafia, ie the scum parties are both Capulet and Montague (probably minus R&J, which is why I think you should stick around) and seeing their number, it makes sense that they wouldn't have the same abilities as a normal mafia faction.
We already know 2 Montague roles, and can safely assume the same roles are on the Capulet side.
Everyone has been focused on the fact there was only 1 NK tonight, and AD has been saying Tybalt is a SK, but Fir could have well targeted someone protected by the Capulet bodyguard, and Tybalt would obviously be the Capulet vig.
I do think once this one is dead we won't see any other NK.

No no no... You misunderstand, though. A bodyguard dies when the person they are protecting is targetted. So if a Bodyguard had been targetted, or R or J, then there would have still been two kills.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:19 pm

Except that bodyguards usually die when the person they protect is targeted.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:20 pm

You're right, completely forgot that

Then there might be a town doc.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:20 pm

Which only would leave the fact that Juliets Nurse or the Priest is a Doctor, and correctly protected the right person.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:25 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Which only would leave the fact that Juliets Nurse or the Priest is a Doctor, and correctly protected the right person.

which is extremely probable

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:27 pm

diddle wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:Which only would leave the fact that Juliets Nurse or the Priest is a Doctor, and correctly protected the right person.
which is extremely probable

On the contrary, there's a very low chance that they did it.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:27 pm

Well thanks Ank for the credit, but I think anyone with 1/2 a brain would've killed either fircola or exile last night since cena outed his "buddies".

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:29 pm

wicked wrote:Well thanks Ank for the credit, but I think anyone with 1/2 a brain would've killed either fircola or exile last night since cena outed his "buddies".

Well, it just wouldn't make any sense to have not tried to kill off an entire faction... But, on the other hand, many noobs would have attempted to go in the totally oppsite direction, expecting the town to kill off the other ones in day lynches.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:30 pm

Makes me think there's also the possibility Fir was so disgusted with this outing that he didn't bother sending in a kill as there was no chance for him to win.

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:30 pm

wicked wrote:Well thanks Ank for the credit, but I think anyone with 1/2 a brain would've killed either fircola or exile last night since cena outed his "buddies".

for all we know, cena could of been bullshitting, cos neither of his 'buddies' knew about being his buddies

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:33 pm

diddle wrote:
wicked wrote:Well thanks Ank for the credit, but I think anyone with 1/2 a brain would've killed either fircola or exile last night since cena outed his "buddies".
for all we know, cena could of been bullshitting, cos neither of his 'buddies' knew about being his buddies

Not true... Exile claimed ignorance at it, but Fircoal did not.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:33 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Well, I think you are Tybalt, personally. You are a good player who can participate very well and would know who to take out at night without looking like an obvious noob.

The only other person in this game that I give that much credit to is Wicked.

So, it is either you or Wicked that I would vote for, but you were slumming earlier, and I think the "trump card" is just you lying to try and get us confused... So, my vote on you stands.

You think I'm Tybalt? OK. Would Tybalt know who Juliet is AD?