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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:29 pm
by Selin
Let me also clear the case with TWO (godfather) and william (cult leader). Let me also state that the following is the most probable explanation what happened there.
william was the cult leader who could recruit only during day. He tried to recruit TWO last day and was not successful because TWO was mafia. So, identifying one of mafia he tried to make a questionable (smart or stupid, I can't decide) move claiming cop hoping on doctor's protection during later phases.
I can hear you saying that william should be dead when he was not successful in recruiting a mafia member, however this differs from mod to mod. Some mods let the recruiter die on the first trial, some not.
What william didn't think about, was that there could be a night vig (mafia) or a night serial killer, who may target him. This actually happened and he was killed. At the same time TWO was targeted either by the night vig (town) or by the night Jack of all trades (town). That was a good move giving the town one more shot.
I also read posts of night players about the possibility with insane cop, recruitment of him, pm'ing each other etc etc., however this is mostly not probable because of following prerequisites:
1) there should be an insane cop in the set up (lets say 50% possible)
2) that insane cop should be a day/insomniac cop (50-60% possible)
3) that insane cop should target TWO (mathematically %5-6 possible, normally its less than this, because there are better players to investigate in this game)
4) william should target that insane cop to recruit (%5-6 possible, but normally less, he would have preferred to recruit a night or insomniac player)
The proability of such a combination is far below 1% and can be neglected.
In total, we were very lucky with the results of the first day and night.
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:35 pm
by Selin
Note also that we haven't had any day or night scenes. Nobody was killed after the day or the night ended. Any theories about that?
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:49 pm
by animorpherv1
I'm guessing TWO forgot to send in his action.
At least untill we have a doc claim (which I do not encourage at all)
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:23 pm
by /
Unvote, though I still find it odd Will chose to mention animo.
As for the reason why there hasn't been much action, I'm guessing TWO's placement as an insomniac suggests that there are both day and night parties he had to command, and his role would have been sort of the mediator between the phases, It's unlikely that either of last night's kills were by the mafia, since the scene did not mention TWO. (Unless as you suggested the mafia may have an extra vig.)
I'm thinking TWO would have talked to the night party during the day, then decided to send in a kill after consulting the day people during the night, unexpectedly though he was killed mid-night, the fact no one sent in the kill after that suggests the day time mafia members are likely to be submariners.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:11 am
by Selin
Ace and / voted TWO on day one. pancake later posted a deadline and I voted TWO approx. 6,5 hours before the deadline in order to get nearer a lynch, because no other one had more votes at that time. And what did Flores do exactly after my post?
Selin wrote:Vote: TWO
nearing deadline... 6,5 hours left.
FloresDelMal wrote:vote lovo becaue him is awake, him is submarining and him is getting on my nerves.
Knowing our only chance for a lynch is TWO, she voted lovo, who hasn't posted anything, arguing submarining and getting on her nerves. This is for me a clear sign that Flores didn't want to risk the lynch of TWO. Therefore I believe that she belongs to scum.
Vote: Flores
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:39 am
by animorpherv1
I'm impressed.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:24 pm
by KiwiTaker
Your logic seems sound enough.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:02 am
by Minister Masket
Could be an honest mistake, but there's only one way to fnd out.
Vote Flores
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:10 am
by Selin
Minister Masket wrote:Could be an honest mistake, but there's only one way to fnd out.
Vote Flores
You maybe right, but if someone has a better lead/idea, I would like to hear.
As you can see, there is very few productive discussion during the day, which concerns me. This forces us to have (almost) random lynches which maybe ok for the first day, but not in later phases.
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:53 am
by animorpherv1
The Night Phase got almost all the Posters that talk lots.
Looks like we have nothing to go on unvote vote: Flores
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:01 am
by pancakemix
Vote Count
Awake
3 Flores (Selin, MM, Ani)
2 ani (/, Flores)
10 awake means 6 to lynch.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:47 pm
by cena-rules
ill sub
and i just read through

Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:14 am
by cena-rules
Ok Im here
Ummm let me re-read again and Ill post
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:48 am
by cena-rules
Ok guys this seems to me to be a strange game.
Selin as always your logic makes sense so
vote flores
this puts her on l-2 so I want a claim please dear
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:34 am
by FloresDelMal
boys, i am not scum, not that i can prove it but someone should be able to investigate me, anyway, it might be in the best interest of town to replace me, as much as i could love a life of playing games my thesis deadline is monday 25, i still have patients to attend, a seminary to run, instructions to attend, recently i finished of work as a psychologist replacement in a center for battered women and i am pondering if im so desperate for money as to work with the aggressors, and pondering if im up to the challenge or not, of course with the frenchy not working money is something to be concern about, but do as you want, you either investigate me and give me some time for get active, replace me or just lynch me because i am kinda submarining for the first time ever, i could like to keep my other games, but giving that this game have the system which allows me to participate the less, it could be the one easier to give up for me.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:39 am
by FloresDelMal
oh and if you wonder why i dont claim when seems about just the right time, is because if instead of lynched i get replaced town actually might have a chance to win, and i dont claim because that could only hurt the town, plus is a made up role with no freaking name, i think PCM creative license might make my claim hard to swallow.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:40 am
by FloresDelMal
and last time i fake claimed as townie on the town best interests it didnt work out well.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:42 am
by FloresDelMal
animorpherv1 wrote:I'm impressed.
oh btw, you get impressed quite easily my dear *smirk
ok, losing too much time on this shit, you see?? this is what it happens when i pay too much time when i should be working

Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:56 am
by sam_levi_11
FloresDelMal wrote:and last time i fake claimed as townie on the town best interests it didnt work out well.
lol yer, but it was an easy mistake
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:41 am
by pancakemix
Flores has requested replacement. I swear that by the end of this game, no one will be one of the original players.
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:55 pm
by animorpherv1
pancakemix wrote:Flores has requested replacement. I swear that by the end of this game, no one will be one of the original players.
I'll still be here.
Oh yeah, I might not be on tomorrow, since it's my b-day. But nly tomorrow
Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:14 pm
by Selin
Unvote
pancake, do you have an idea how to non-posters more active? Should we wait for that? Do we have a time limit for day 2?
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:16 pm
by Selin
Flores, why didn't you vote TWO on day 1, although there was very little time left to the deadline?
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:19 pm
by Selin
/ wrote:Unvote, though I still find it odd Will chose to mention animo.
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I have an idea about that, but let's wait pancake and flores' answers to my posts.
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Re: Insomniac Mafia Day 2 (No Lynch, needs a sub)
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:38 am
by Minister Masket
Announcment
I will not be active from Monday to Friday next week, as I'm away.
Fell free to either replace me or whatever.