World Cup(merged with original world cup thread)

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:07 pm

France, the giant killer. They seem to be quite good at beating Brazil...

--Andy

johnnyrotten · Post by **johnnyrotten** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:14 pm

LAUGH AT MARV!!!!!!

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:46 pm

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:08 pm

Its the real life, huh? I couldnt save, then load if lose the game... :lol:

But really no problem. Brazil played bad all the cup games, and mainly this game, so it deserved to be defeated.

France? Henry is a joke. I can play as well as him... :wink:

Seriously, he is terrible. And I will now support Portugal.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:11 pm

Hope Italy wins....then I really don't care. No fun when the host nation wins...they should be stomped out early on!

--Andy

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:22 pm

I thought Marv would be devistated.

I hope Germany loses too.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:38 am

Because of soccer? Nah... Brazil squad won already the last cup, America Cup and Confederations Cup... We cant win all.

And anyway, my team is currently in the 2nd division, so Im accustomed to the losses... its terrible, but I will not abandon it! Galo até a morte!

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:56 am

well i dont no who i want to win now

Portugal - Well ronaldo is a sly cheat, did anyone else see him wink and smile at the other portugese players when rooney got sent off

Germany - Same what andy said - no fun when host nations win (except for 1966 england of course lol)

Italy - Cheated their way to a penalty last minute against Australia

France - Well no one likes the french...

I am very surprised that arguably the top 3 teams (Argentina, England and Brazil - not Ukraine

) all went out in the quarter finals

Phate · Post by **Phate** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:17 pm

Chances of winning the world cup in order =

1. Germany: on home soil + only side playing positive football, if they can crack Italy looks likely they will go on to win.

2. France: High morale after two pretty convincing performances and victories over world class opposition, easy to see them in the final, hard to see them beating Germany but Italy may be possible.

3. Italy: Steady performers over their games so far. Anyone who thinks they had ANY trouble beating Australia is a fool, that is how Italy win their games, pack the defense, win the ball on the edge of the box and break in the last 5 minutes. If they hadn't got the penalty they would pull back for 25 minutes and try again. It's negative, but effective. Germany will have a very hard time breaking them down and could lose by the dreaded 1-0.

4. Portugal: So far the poorest performers of the last four, but having Deco in their side really will make a difference. Hard to see them winning 2 games on the trot now though.

Mjolnirs · Post by **Mjolnirs** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:41 pm

Phobia wrote:no fun when host nations win

I've heard others say this, and to a degree I can understand it, but it isn't uncommon in the cup.
Previous hosts that won it all:
1998 France in France
1978 Argentina in Argentina
1974 Germany in Germany
1966 England in England
1934 Italy in Italy
1930 Uruguay in Uruguay

At least some of the teams have proven they can win away from home:
2002 Brazil in SK/Japan
1994 Brazil in USA
1990 Germany in Italy
1986 Argentina in Mexico
1982 Italy in Spain
1970 Brazil in Mexico
1962 Brazil in Chile
1958 Brazil in Sweden
1954 Germany in Switzerland
1950 Uruguay in Brazil
1938 Italy in France

Some didn't have to travel far though: Italy in Spain and France, Germany in Switzerland and Italy, Uruguay in Brazil and Brazil in Chile

Just some interesting history.

Some other interesting stuff:
This will be the first final without Brazil since 1990 (Germany v Argentina) and this will be the first final since 1982 with two European teams (Italy v Germany)

Mjolnirs · Post by **Mjolnirs** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:59 pm

What a game. I liked the fact that it was end to end during OT. Italy pressed much more than Germany evidenced by difference in corners. Both teams had chances to win it in regulation and OT.

:clap: :clap: :clap: for Klinsmann and his team. They played an amazing tournament exceeding all expectations. Hopefully the DFB extends his contracts and he stays with them through Euro 2008 and hopefully South Africa 2010.

I will now pull for the winner of tomorrows game. Not out of a dislike of Italy, but now that Germany is out I would rather see someone win the cup for the first time (Portugal) or second time (France). Besides that, if Italy wins they will have four titles, breaking their tie with Germany.

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:22 pm

Curse you, Italy. Now my Deustchland shirt is obsolete.

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:57 am

Phobia wrote:well i dont no who i want to win now

Portugal - Well ronaldo is a sly cheat, did anyone else see him wink and smile at the other portugese players when rooney got sent off

Ronaldo is Brazilian, fool.

Sulu · Post by **Sulu** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:13 am

dussle wrote:Ronaldo is Brazilian, fool.

There is also a Portuguese Ronaldo.

As for me, I think France will win on Sunday, and the hosts will walk away with 3rd place on Saturday.

sportsdd2 · Post by **sportsdd2** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:20 am

the only way for france to win is by luck. Basicly the game between germany and italy were giong to win. So italy is going to win. my guess is 2 to 1

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:23 am

dussle wrote:
Phobia wrote:well i dont no who i want to win now

Portugal - Well ronaldo is a sly cheat, did anyone else see him wink and smile at the other portugese players when rooney got sent off

Ronaldo is Brazilian, fool.

Obviously he doesnt really watch soccer

minihaymanz · Post by **minihaymanz** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:46 pm

christiano ronaldo. someone doesn't watch soccer
christiano ronaldo aka diving son of a bitch who is the shitstain on societys underpants.

now that my teams (holland-england-germany) are out, im going france...
just because they're not italian (I hate italian and portugese soccer players)

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:41 am

sportsdd2 wrote:the only way for france to win is by luck.

france doesnt need luck they have all the skill in the world to quote arlyn from landgrab..

Of course France can "win" at soccer. It's running. No one is better at "running" than France.

unfortunately they are used to runnning backwards..

Phate · Post by **Phate** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:23 pm

I don't think they can beat Italy they are too defensive. France beat Brazil because they played very openly.

As far as I'm concerned the final has already been played, it was germany vs italy

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:45 am

dussle wrote:
Phobia wrote:well i dont no who i want to win now

Portugal - Well ronaldo is a sly cheat, did anyone else see him wink and smile at the other portugese players when rooney got sent off

Ronaldo is Brazilian, fool.

i meant christino ronaldo :lol:

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:25 pm

We all know.

And when I said that "he obviously doesnt watch soccer" I was talking about dussle.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:19 pm

Tied it up. 1-1 in the 19th minute.

--Andy

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:38 pm

still tied in the 38th minute.

Sir Gordalot · Post by **Sir Gordalot** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:15 pm

Still tied 57th minute

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:17 pm

Still tied in the 59th minute