Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[new guy1]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

[shieldgenerator7]

Well, I have a couple things to say.

I used my action and nothing happened, so I still don't know my alignment or what my night action does.

Also, to make matters worse, I have been silenced and can only have 4 D2 posts, so this is D2 POST 1/4.

I might as well claim now because I won't have much of a chance to defend myself today.
I am the Wanderer. I wander past someone each night. Last night I wondered past /. Milkshake PM'd me telling me nothing happened as a result of my night action, so I still don't know what it does.

I think the chance of another day-ending DK are pretty slim. I think it was a one-shot ability. If it wasn't, like others have said, this game would be fairly imbalanced.

There were no kills last night, so we either have 2 docs, a roleblocker block the kill, or no roles capable of NKing (or the NKers took the night off)

If anyone makes a case on me, I'll have to respond later than I usually would to see if it's worth defending. Cause I only have 4 posts, and I don't want to waste them.

Good luck going the day without me! I'll be in the corner, sulking by myself

-SG7 ( )

[new guy1]

Then 1/3 is a silencer. Therefore, I would actually like to know why u visited him. If your answer is he was scummy support it with quotes.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

Well my reason is kinda weak but anyways I was inactive most the time (need to see why check vacation thread) and when I got back I read through real fast and really didn't have time to send in my night action so I just kinda picked him .i guess that's a pretty bad reason but I'm really bad with that kinda stuff

[betiko]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

you are basically soft claiming watcher?

I'd like more experienced players to give an opinion about the whole day kill mechanism we witnessed.
Also, do you guys think we got unlucky to get the doc killed, or that they somehow could have a day action as well to tell them he was doc? another explanation could be that almost everybody here has a power role, which would fit the superheroe flavour.

3 people visiting sg7? so about /, did he just got a visit from sg7?

in that case the silencer is either something clever or the hippo.
I'd like to hear the crown's opinion about these two for example.

[Leehar]

Yeah, I'm with sg7 here that the day-kill was probably a one-shot ability, and the dude got lucky killing our doc.

Ok, new guys given us some valuable info, so thats where we should start. I'm not as suspicious of / because if sg7 was visiting him, then maybe that was the reason for him popping up to ng1.

So it's between hippo and clever on who's more malicious. Perhaps we could get some full claims then, or even just what they're role is and what results they got from sg7 if they can visit him?

[betiko]

I'll start putting pressure on 1 of these 2.

vote the hippo

[jgordon1111]

Yeah, I'm with sg7 here that the day-kill was probably a one-shot ability, and the dude got lucky killing our doc.

Ok, new guys given us some valuable info, so thats where we should start. I'm not as suspicious of / because if sg7 was visiting him, then maybe that was the reason for him popping up to ng1.

So it's between hippo and clever on who's more malicious. Perhaps we could get some full claims then, or even just what they're role is and what results they got from sg7 if they can visit him?

Based on crazy saying safari says the game is balanced I am Inclined to go with SG7 and Leehar on this. Lucky shot I am inclined to disagree. Not because ghost was the Doc, I think it was because ghost can scum hunt.

Somebody took the shot before he got to them,I think because they have made a mistake somewhere that hasnt been picked up on yet.

And the fact I am number one on his list automatically leads to me. Double win I get lynched and somebody else doesnt get looked into.

Going back and reading everything everyone has said or not said up till now.

fastposted by hippo

[jgordon1111]

sorry double post

fastposted by betiko saw hippo's name and thought it was pink therefore him.

[betiko]

Yeah, I'm with sg7 here that the day-kill was probably a one-shot ability, and the dude got lucky killing our doc.

Ok, new guys given us some valuable info, so thats where we should start. I'm not as suspicious of / because if sg7 was visiting him, then maybe that was the reason for him popping up to ng1.

So it's between hippo and clever on who's more malicious. Perhaps we could get some full claims then, or even just what they're role is and what results they got from sg7 if they can visit him?

Based on crazy saying safari says the game is balanced I am Inclined to go with SG7 and Leehar on this. Lucky shot I am inclined to disagree. Not because ghost was the Doc, I think it was because ghost can scum hunt.

Somebody took the shot before he got to them,I think because they have made a mistake somewhere that hasnt been picked up on yet.

And the fact I am number one on his list automatically leads to me. Double win I get lynched and somebody else doesnt get looked into.

Going back and reading everything everyone has said or not said up till now.

fastposted by hippo

1) why are you making this about you when it's all about clever vs the hippo?
2) what is strange is the timings. crazy answers my question about marvel or dc or whatever, then you post, then immediately crazy asks to quick stop any activity. but i think it's all about pms.

And you are not particularly high on my scumdar jg, compared to others.

[TheCrown]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

you are basically soft claiming watcher?

I'd like more experienced players to give an opinion about the whole day kill mechanism we witnessed.
Also, do you guys think we got unlucky to get the doc killed, or that they somehow could have a day action as well to tell them he was doc? another explanation could be that almost everybody here has a power role, which would fit the superheroe flavour.

3 people visiting sg7? so about /, did he just got a visit from sg7?

in that case the silencer is either something clever or the hippo.
I'd like to hear the crown's opinion about these two for example.

you must have me confused with someone else... I'm not in the catagory of "experienced player"

my thoughts:
1. jgordon is muddy water for what purpose.... no idea, but could be hinting at a role
2. new guy's softclaim is too bold to be fake, and people are answering him and not refuting him. new guy 100% town
3. @hippo8.... let's hear what you have to say... the longer you take, the least likely it is going to be believable and I will think you are making up a role to ease the pain...

Whew! That's a lot of thought for me for 1 day... I better take it easy...

[Leehar]

Wow, you're seriously worrying me if thats "a lot of thought" from you!

[new guy1]

Instead of pressuring hippo, I thought clevers excuse was pretty lame. He didn't know would else to use his power on? Vote clever (just putting this here, on my phone so can't add color, I will be back later to do so.

[jgordon1111]

Betiko,its not about me. For me its about town still.

Four players went to SG7 last night one of the four silenced or roleblocked him.

NG1 is most likely a watcher,I.e. town and almost as good as ghost at scum hunting. So thats a bonus.

therefore the obvious, most thought or think SG7 is scum.

With this happening that leaves four roles unaccounted for. the silencer or roleblocker Who is it. then three others. SG7's role,hippo's role,clevers role,and /'s role.

And after going back to D1 from joke vote on to see if I missed anything. My list remains the same. Sg7,skill,leehar and those that were and are still basically submarining. Matter of fact you can (almost) reverse that list now.

NG1 I have to say, your usually on top of the game, you have done something I find odd at this point. I am not sure about asking you about it though.

fastposted by NG1

[thehippo8]

Good morning all ... as I am in New Zealand you'll have to make allowances for sleeping

Spoiler

I am going on holiday today for two weeks to the states so will be a bit erratic in posts ... RL always gets in the way!!

Anyway, the thing I don't like about jg's post about all and sundry is that he hasn't claimed but effectively requires a claim from others. But a claim is nevertheless now required from me. This is good for Mafia but so be it!

I am Night Crawler, a tracker, which means I can follow someone to see where they go. There was so much interest in SG7 yesterday that it seemed logical I at least see whether he was Mafia if possible. I did not "visit" him, I followed him. In following SG7 I can see where he went. And where did he go? He went straight to / last night. I don't know why or what he did and it certainly doesn't clear SG7 in any way. If he visited / to kill him then he failed as he was probably blocked. Again, it was sensible for a roleblocker to block SG7 given all that happened yesterday. So, again, we are left with ... vote SG7

[jak111]

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, and /... Why did you decide to visit SG7 last night? I dont want your roles, I want your reasoning behind the visit.

you are basically soft claiming watcher?

I'd like more experienced players to give an opinion about the whole day kill mechanism we witnessed.
Also, do you guys think we got unlucky to get the doc killed, or that they somehow could have a day action as well to tell them he was doc? another explanation could be that almost everybody here has a power role, which would fit the superheroe flavour.

3 people visiting sg7? so about /, did he just got a visit from sg7?

in that case the silencer is either something clever or the hippo.
I'd like to hear the crown's opinion about these two for example.

This seems to be a mod choice, although if there's any more power to do that it would tip the odds in their favor way too much.

Betiko,its not about me. For me its about town still.

Four players went to SG7 last night one of the four silenced or roleblocked him.

NG1 is most likely a watcher,I.e. town and almost as good as ghost at scum hunting. So thats a bonus.

therefore the obvious, most thought or think SG7 is scum.

With this happening that leaves four roles unaccounted for. the silencer or roleblocker Who is it. then three others. SG7's role,hippo's role,clevers role,and /'s role.

And after going back to D1 from joke vote on to see if I missed anything. My list remains the same. Sg7,skill,leehar and those that were and are still basically submarining. Matter of fact you can (almost) reverse that list now.

NG1 I have to say, your usually on top of the game, you have done something I find odd at this point. I am not sure about asking you about it though.

fastposted by NG1

You sir, are now on my radar. Let me post why.

-You skim
-You make a fight all about you
-Role fishing

So, if you want to go fishing for roles, what do you do sir?

For the skimming part let me put down what I see happened last night...

Some7hingCLEVER, thehippo8, New Guy and / visited SG7

Out of these 4
- 1 is roleblocker
- 1 is silencer
- New Guy is watcher
- 1 is unknown

While SG7 is unknown. Silencer is more of a mafia role, so one of the 3 unknowns are the mafia silencer. But what has me worried is there was no kill last night, we have no other real good doc after we lost Ghostly, so that means the roleblocker must have done something. Which also means SG7 is not out of the clear as of yet (silencer may be 3rd party?).

For now, that's really all I have >.<

[jgordon1111]

Hippo I am not pushing for any claims I dont want all of towns damn roles out there for mafia to pick us off one by one,Why did you claim it was not needed. the pressure would seem to be going toward SG7 and maybe Clever for submarining.

But you have some good points,for cripes sake no one else claim please.

Fastposted by betiko. I got to type faster.

I am not nor do I ever skim betiko.

[skillfusniper33]

Well yes the day kill has me a bit confused, but I think it was built into the game, maybe as a random killing. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone had a role change because of it to try and help keep it balanced.

As for 3 people visiting SG7. I thought it would have been expected because of the heat he was drawing at the end of day 1. And what has been explained earlier is that SG7 could have gone somewhere, and by the looks of it he did.

I am not really liking the fact that NG1 came right out with that information, it just put a bullet on his back for a night kill, and helping mafia prioritize who they need to kill off.

I also don't see mafia taking a night off, but I do see the high chance of someone role-blocking, but we also haven't brought up the fact that the target may have been bulletproof, which also would have been very nice, but with no scene to make a reference, it makes it a bit harder to find some flavor of other roles out their.

[jak111]

Hippo I am not pushing for any claims I dont want all of towns damn roles out there for mafia to pick us off one by one,Why did you claim it was not needed. the pressure would seem to be going toward SG7 and maybe Clever for submarining.

But you have some good points,for cripes sake no one else claim please.

Fastposted by betiko. I got to type faster.

I am not nor do I ever skim betiko.

Considering my name is Jak111... you do skim

Vote jgordon1111

[betiko]

woops sorry had missed your answer to this!
anyway, not building a case but you do have to start from somewhere. About the foed thing i don t know, though it could be a reason why you were not answering, we might have played a risk game in the past and you would've foed me for any reason (not that i remember playing you)... has this ever happened by the way? would be quite fucked up! to notice after a day of game that you hadn't seen all post from another user because you foed him..

sorry haven't read last posts, I was re reading the entire thing and...

crap, this exactly what just happened to me! had jak foed cause he pissed me off during a cc game a long time ago! sorry just unfoed you! and reading all your posts not quored by others for the first time.

[jak111]

woops sorry had missed your answer to this!
anyway, not building a case but you do have to start from somewhere. About the foed thing i don t know, though it could be a reason why you were not answering, we might have played a risk game in the past and you would've foed me for any reason (not that i remember playing you)... has this ever happened by the way? would be quite fucked up! to notice after a day of game that you hadn't seen all post from another user because you foed him..

sorry haven't read last posts, I was re reading the entire thing and...

crap, this exactly what just happened to me! had jak foed cause he pissed me off during a cc game a long time ago! sorry just unfoed you! and reading all your posts not quored by others for the first time.

I just looked, and now it all comes back to me... For anyone wondering why he's a little grouchy and foed me way back when...
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2011-11-02 16:37:21 - jak111 [team]: We should try to get you Witches Way. I'll work on Dragon's Head, Deaths Door would be nice, but we'd be surrounded and be forcing them to attack only us. I'll help you out the first round, but when you can send your troops from Cauldron's Bubble to
2011-11-02 16:37:28 - jak111 [team]: Dragon Snout Heads
2011-11-02 16:37:45 - jak111: Good luck all
2011-11-04 15:05:18 - jak111: Oh wow, the map is a bit messed, XD It looked like you couldn't attack snout heads from there >.<
2011-11-04 15:06:17 - jak111 [team]: Take Witches Castle this turn sometime and we'll free ourselves from northeastern attacks, though keep troops on the witch, the crosses can attack her.
2011-11-04 15:08:08 - jak111 [team]: I'll try to rid us of snout (red) Wiccan Beach (green) and Peril Rocks (green)
2011-11-04 22:08:12 - jak111 [team]: -.- the territs are messed up. I have to take the cauldron from snouth, but I'll have to do that next turn since I also had to break green's bonus
2011-11-05 21:39:05 - OttoMANO [team]: Forget the green .... Yellow and blue are a problem.
2011-11-05 21:40:10 - OttoMANO [team]: Give a green his bonus ... He will use in a blue.
2011-11-06 10:37:58 - jak111 [team]: Well, I hope you can get wicked the witch this turn, >.< If you don't we're probably gonna be picked off too quick. And green won't be able to get his bonus since yellow invaded.
2011-11-06 16:57:24 - jak111 [team]: Good job. I'll use my bonus troops to support you on the witch and within your territ. And use the other 3 to defend spots a bit where I could be hit. Besides that, all of my troops are going towards you. So make them count bud
2011-11-07 15:45:46 - jak111 [team]: sorry Otto, he got my bonus at the last second -.- green and red need to realize how much of a threat yellow and blue really are..
2011-11-07 15:52:36 - jak111: Red, Green, we need to start taking out yellow and blue if either of us wish to have a chance at this. Take out Raven Tree this turn Red and maybe a few others, up to you, but make sure blue can't take his bonus without eliminating his own ally If
2011-11-07 15:53:11 - jak111: Green slowly takes back his bonus and leaves me at mine we can make sure yellow is trapped in the graveyard by his own teammate.
2011-11-07 15:54:38 - jak111 [team]: Focus on Wicked the Witch Otto, if all else fails we can't let him hold that for too long if we wish to keep the upper hand
2011-11-07 15:56:38 - jak111 [team]: But if your lucky take out BOTH wicked the witch and witches castle from yellow, because then if red and green do their part, we will force yellow into a hole. And blue seems to be having BAD luck
2011-11-07 21:55:05 - douitashimashite: really teal you think team 1 will listen ?
2011-11-07 21:55:45 - douitashimashite: having red and green attacking us YOU win ... no one's idiot here
2011-11-08 15:49:07 - jak111: Really blue, you think because you're a higher rank you're smarter? They can look at the troop numbers and see that you two need to be taken down a notch.
2011-11-08 15:49:51 - jak111 [team]: I dunno what you should aim for now.. but wicked the witch has too many troops now.
2011-11-08 21:53:01 - douitashimashite: never said i was smarter...
2011-11-08 21:55:18 - douitashimashite: you guys have 4 cards each that bring your troop count up ! isn't it ?.
2011-11-09 11:30:07 - OttoMANO [team]: Spoil escalating ... lets see ... i'll wait .... if you keep you bonus ... please give troops or i'll be eliminated ....
2011-11-09 11:33:47 - OttoMANO [team]: hummmm it's can sounds a little bit crazy .... but i think that if you keep your bonus, we can win next turn
2011-11-09 11:36:33 - OttoMANO [team]: You can take your bonus and eliminated me ... in this way ... if i'm right ... you will do 2 changes imediatly ... with these troops, you can eliminate blue/Yellow/red or Green .... probably Blue is the best shoot ... take this spoils .. .and change again
2011-11-09 11:37:04 - OttoMANO [team]: What do you think ?
2011-11-09 16:33:21 - jak111 [team]: If green dosn't smarting up we're all dead, but I will give you my toops this turn. And not yet bud. With my luck lately it wouldn't go too well.
2011-11-09 16:36:40 - jak111: Hardly and you know it. You and yellow have a few key locations, I'm saying if red and green take out yellow's outter territs it will prevent him from causing either our teams or theirs damage. In a small map like this you need a strategy. And mine is to
2011-11-09 16:38:25 - jak111: Not let two major's take control of the game. I'm even willing to let green take his bonus, but for him to do that we'd neeed to take yellow out from the witch and anywhere else. You know its true blue.
2011-11-09 19:19:43 - OttoMANO [team]: Think again.... We can win .... And will be fun...
2011-11-09 21:19:30 - jak111 [team]: Alright I'll try bud.. >.< I really hope this works... Because if it dosn't we lose you know that right?
2011-11-09 21:22:26 - jak111 [team]: Damn, it was a good plan, until my troops ran out of luck >.<
2011-11-09 21:23:30 - jak111 [team]: I probably should've aimed for green, but I had enough troops to kill blue if my luck didn't fade on the Unertaker's Plot..
2011-11-10 04:05:35 - betiko: you are such an idiot, trying so hard to make us loose, what are you thinking..
2011-11-10 04:07:02 - betiko: you just handed the game to team 1, all this because you only focus on the rank
2011-11-10 04:11:36 - betiko: i hope you are happy now. and yes, maybe if you didn t do such noob moves you d be better ranked
2011-11-10 04:12:02 - betiko: gg team 1, you can say thank you to teal
2011-11-10 15:55:23 - jak111: You and I both know it wasn't an idiot move. Especially since red and green weren't gonna do anything. You were our threat.
2011-11-10 21:00:38 - jak111 [team]: Ok Otto, I got another set, if I survive this round I will try my best to eliminate and take cards >.<
2011-11-10 21:03:00 - jak111: And if I AM such a noob yellow, lets see if you follow in my foot steps, show me how your 'superior' tactics will work <.<
2011-11-10 21:03:57 - jak111 [team]: (Just trying to push him or his teammate over the edge, these higher rankers tend to vent easily ^^ To be honest a lot of my games are won through tactician and pissing off my oppenents to the point they don't think
2011-11-11 21:40:41 - jak111 [team]: Red is now my target. With his cards I might be able to take care of the rest
2011-11-11 21:41:49 - jak111: Ouch Blue, even I felt that bad dice.
2011-11-11 22:51:22 - betiko: well, really sloppy dice and couldn t finish you teal.. i guess it s game for either one of you.
2011-11-11 22:51:59 - betiko: teal, just remember that to double trade your only solution is to go for green first..
2011-11-12 02:03:30 - jak111: Yep You knew my plan XD actually red would've been first if he survived then green but either works
2011-11-12 02:08:39 - jak111: gg buds.
2011-11-12 09:21:01 - OttoMANO: Nice .... Good strategy right ??? and was fun ....
2011-11-12 14:04:47 - jak111: Yes, I dunno if it would've been easier with you still in or not considering I failed my first attempt XD

[jgordon1111]

Hippo I am not pushing for any claims I dont want all of towns damn roles out there for mafia to pick us off one by one,Why did you claim it was not needed. the pressure would seem to be going toward SG7 and maybe Clever for submarining.

But you have some good points,for cripes sake no one else claim please.

Fastposted by betiko. I got to type faster.

I am not nor do I ever skim betiko.

Considering my name is Jak111... you do skim

Vote jgordon1111

Damn dont know what happened Jak, I would have sworn that avatar was a wolf,My apologies to both of you then. Got to type faster and wear my glasses as well.

[betiko]

Hippo I am not pushing for any claims I dont want all of towns damn roles out there for mafia to pick us off one by one,Why did you claim it was not needed. the pressure would seem to be going toward SG7 and maybe Clever for submarining.

But you have some good points,for cripes sake no one else claim please.

Fastposted by betiko. I got to type faster.

I am not nor do I ever skim betiko.

dude, you just did. i never fastposted you there nor told you were skimming.

[jgordon1111]

Hippo I am not pushing for any claims I dont want all of towns damn roles out there for mafia to pick us off one by one,Why did you claim it was not needed. the pressure would seem to be going toward SG7 and maybe Clever for submarining.

But you have some good points,for cripes sake no one else claim please.

Fastposted by betiko. I got to type faster.

I am not nor do I ever skim betiko.

dude, you just did. i never fastposted you there nor told you were skimming.

See the post above yours for explaination and apology betiko.

[betiko]

Ok, here are my thoughts after re reading everything.

Mafia wouldn't've silenced the guy they were going to NK, it would be plain stupid. I don't think he was the target, but there was a busdrive, that would be the unknown role IMO.

But I don't know, things don't add up for me in this whole case...

by the way, here is a description of sg7's character:

As a child Vitoria was abused and one day almost killed by being bitten by hundreds of Spiders. She's now a leader in the Council of Spiders. She can kill instantly with a single touch. She now has the council hunt heroes after they were all beaten by Red Robin.


Origins

As a young girl living in a rural village in Brazil. eight year old Vitoria grew up an abused child. Whenever the men in the village were drunk, they would use her as sport. Despite her mothers warnings one day she fled from the village and the men to seek refuge in the jungle. She fell into a pit of poisonous spiders called "the wanderer". She was bitten Three Hundred and nineteen times. It didn't kill her however, instead she was changed on a molecular level. She could now kill with a mere touch. She killed those who had terrified and abused her all her young life. Over the years she trained herself in the martial arts and became very adept. Her skill combined with her death touch made her virtually unbeatable. She soon took the name of the spider that had changed her life forever, she became the wanderer.


Becoming the wanderer

After wandering all around the world in search of worthy opponents she stumbled across the league of assassins and the reclusive Ra's al Ghul . Realizing that there existed no better prey than them, she set out to gather a band of like-minded souls to aid her in killing the League Of Assassins and Ra's.

She eventually does locate and kill a few members and comes across Tim drake now red robin. she and her team storm the league headquarters and kill every member they could find, including a clone of Ra's. She fights Red Robin to a standstill before they part.

She is left alive with a new prey on her radar.... Red Robin.
Skills and abilities


A very capable martial artist and gymnast able to spar with Tim Drake . She is an expert tracker able to stalk her prey and zone in on them from across the world.

In addition she is fluent in speaking both English and Portuguese.
Powers

Her touch is deadly. Any part of her exposed skin has the ability to kill an opponent on contact. After being bitten by the wandering spider of the Amazon her skin now has the property to produce the toxin/venom of the creature. Her "death touch" is simply her delivering a large dose of the spiders venom upon contact.