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Jenos Ridan wrote:Suffered from depression and suicidal tendices, even after he claimed to had seen "Allah" (who was covered so 'He' could not be seen. If Moses, who is proportedly a lesser prophet, like Jesus (Isa in the Koran), actually saw God in all of His manifest glory on Sinai, then why not Mohammed, if he is indeed who he claims to be?).
Yo, remember a guy named Ezekiel? Look him up.
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DaGip wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
comic boy wrote:

If the World comes to an end nobody will be laughing my friend :?
"This is the way I think the world will end: with general giggling from all the witty heads, who think it's a joke"
-(and just as I finished typing, I forgot the name of the guy who said it. Ahh well)
I plan on laughing as much as possible at the end of times.
Belief in the 'rapture' is a classic revenge fantasy.

'yeah, well, wait till we all get spritied up to heaven by god, we'll see who's laughing then!'

It's sad.
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Jenos Ridan wrote:
svtoflord wrote: As for the Muslim religion, it developed off of Christianity.
No, it didn't. If you've read the Koran you'd know that. Heck, if you knew who Mohammad was and what he did you'd know the difference.

Mohammad:

Orders the death of rivals by sycophantic followers

Marries the widow of a man he had executed, by same group of cultists noless, against her will I might add.

Marries the wife of his nephew, basically using the "It is the Holy thing to do" agrument, since he would know being the Prophet of Allah and all

Says to one group of followers one thing, returns to Mecca and says something else, then when group A shows up, he turns about-face again, claiming Shaitan (Satan) deceived him (the Satanic Verses, which are in the Koran).

Koran say a man may have up to but no more than four wifes. Mohammad violated this law, which he put in there!

Suffered from depression and suicidal tendices, even after he claimed to had seen "Allah" (who was covered so 'He' could not be seen. If Moses, who is proportedly a lesser prophet, like Jesus (Isa in the Koran), actually saw God in all of His manifest glory on Sinai, then why not Mohammed, if he is indeed who he claims to be?).

Contrasted with Christ Jesus:

Committed no sins nor broke any law, Mosiac or Roman.

Never advocated killing unbelievers (admittedly, some have done so in His name, but that it not condoned by anything He or any of the apostles said or did).

He was in every other way the polar opposite of Mohammed. The Bible is nothing like the Koran, which contains over 100 verses that repeat the theme of "kill the Infidel, JIHAD!!!!", allows Jews and Christians, in the status of Dhirmitude (I think I spelled that wrong?) to be married to muslim men againt their will even if they are already married and by the nature of the related Hadith and Shar'ia laws stands opposed to democratic rule if follows in the manner in which Mohammed intended.

Tell me again how this two are similar?
Noone ever claimed (at least on this thread) that Mohammed was consistent. But his inconsistency has no bearing on the development of the religion. Different main characters, but very similar back story (though there are noticable discrepancies between the two).

And what are these anti-anti-Islam pills you speak of? I think I might need some. Or just some anti-anti-religion pills. I really feel bad about hating religions as much as I do... a little, at least.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
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Ecclesiastes 3: there is a time for all things, included a time to kill (war)

I'm sure that if the country in which you lived where invaded at by extention your life where threatened, you'd fight and possibly kill those trying to kill you. Also, killing in self-defense against murder (the murderer would be breaking the "thou shalt not kill" part) is acceptable. Remember, even the Devil can quote Scripture.
As I said: 'Thou Shalt Kill If Thou Can Get The Government To Declare That It's Ok'. Being invaded probably generally constitutes self defence, but what about when it is your country doing the invading? Politicians regularly declare wars for greed, land and power. Does God sanction all of these?
I believe the verse you are trying to qoute is Exodus 20:13 "You must not commit murder." or in the King James Version "Thou Shalt not commit murder."

There is a difference in committing murder and killing in defense. That is my opinion, anyway.
Executing criminals is not self defense.
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
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DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
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Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
For some reason we give a half a trillion every year to 'military defense' but we don't have a working nuclear shield (highly accurate missiles that strike nuclear warheads).
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unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
For some reason we give a half a trillion every year to 'military defense' but we don't have a working nuclear shield (highly accurate missiles that strike nuclear warheads).
Just think if we sunk all those trillions of dollars into medical and biological sciences and medicine...we would all probably be cured of cancer and be living for hundreds of years! Only one problem...too many people on the planet.
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DaGip wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
For some reason we give a half a trillion every year to 'military defense' but we don't have a working nuclear shield (highly accurate missiles that strike nuclear warheads).
Just think if we sunk all those trillions of dollars into medical and biological sciences and medicine...we would all probably be cured of cancer and be living for hundreds of years! Only one problem...too many people on the planet.
Are you saying that we should keep killing eachother for no reason other than population control? I have a better suggestion: condoms.
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unriggable wrote:
DaGip wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
For some reason we give a half a trillion every year to 'military defense' but we don't have a working nuclear shield (highly accurate missiles that strike nuclear warheads).
Just think if we sunk all those trillions of dollars into medical and biological sciences and medicine...we would all probably be cured of cancer and be living for hundreds of years! Only one problem...too many people on the planet.
Are you saying that we should keep killing eachother for no reason other than population control? I have a better suggestion: condoms.
But those take away all the feeling! A better suggestion is ritual baby-eating.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."

Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
DaGip wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
I don't believe in state sponsored execution.
Me neither. But do you believe in invading another country? (Probably not too since you started to follow RP)
For some reason we give a half a trillion every year to 'military defense' but we don't have a working nuclear shield (highly accurate missiles that strike nuclear warheads).
Just think if we sunk all those trillions of dollars into medical and biological sciences and medicine...we would all probably be cured of cancer and be living for hundreds of years! Only one problem...too many people on the planet.
Are you saying that we should keep killing eachother for no reason other than population control? I have a better suggestion: condoms.
But those take away all the feeling! A better suggestion is ritual baby-eating.
I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?

If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
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DaGip wrote: I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?
:P
If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
Oh man, 2 hour google documentaries are just too much for me.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?
:P
If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
Oh man, 2 hour google documentaries are just too much for me.
I completely understand...that is why I give fair warning on the length. Some of it is interesting, but then...like with all Illuminati videos...it just gets really freakin' boring, and all I want to do is go to sleep and dream about Ron Paul... :shock:
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DaGip wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?
:P
If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
Oh man, 2 hour google documentaries are just too much for me.
I completely understand...that is why I give fair warning on the length. Some of it is interesting, but then...like with all Illuminati videos...it just gets really freakin' boring, and all I want to do is go to sleep and dream about Ron Paul... :shock:
The problem with the vids is that they can't seem to make a clear and short point.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."

Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?
:P
If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
Oh man, 2 hour google documentaries are just too much for me.
I completely understand...that is why I give fair warning on the length. Some of it is interesting, but then...like with all Illuminati videos...it just gets really freakin' boring, and all I want to do is go to sleep and dream about Ron Paul... :shock:
The problem with the vids is that they can't seem to make a clear and short point.
Books, on the other hand...
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unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: I sense a little bit of Reptilian Overlord in your blood, sir! :?
:P
If you got some time, and want to watch Alex Jones talk about population control, you can watch this 2 hour documentary: ENDGAME
Oh man, 2 hour google documentaries are just too much for me.
I completely understand...that is why I give fair warning on the length. Some of it is interesting, but then...like with all Illuminati videos...it just gets really freakin' boring, and all I want to do is go to sleep and dream about Ron Paul... :shock:
The problem with the vids is that they can't seem to make a clear and short point.
Books, on the other hand...
BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
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DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
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DaGip wrote:BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
That makes me kinda sad... I read books to stay awake.
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unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
Just take a day off and spend it in the coffin.
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unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
Just take a day off and spend it in the coffin.
I wish, but college starts tomorrow. I need to get up at 6.30 am. (Which is 4 hours from now. :( )
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Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
DaGip wrote: BOOKS! Bah! I fall asleep in the first two seconds when I crack a book...I hate that about my psyche. I don't know why it happens, but it always does. I could sleep for a whole week, wake up, open a book for half a minute, and then pass out again. It takes me months to read one damned book!
Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
Just take a day off and spend it in the coffin.
I wish, but college starts tomorrow. I need to get up at 6.30 am. (Which is 4 hours from now. :( )
You know what to do.

Apparently its easier to sleep when you're high.
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unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote: Read Terry Pratchett, it's awesome. His books keep me up untill 4 in the morning because I just can't stop reading.
You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
Just take a day off and spend it in the coffin.
I wish, but college starts tomorrow. I need to get up at 6.30 am. (Which is 4 hours from now. :( )
You know what to do.

Apparently its easier to sleep when you're high.
Indeed it is. Luckily I got a bag of weed (yay for home-grown) right here.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
unriggable wrote: You need more sleep.
True. I can't remember a night where I had more than 7 hours actual sleep since 2 years ago.
But then again that's mainly due to personal circumstances.
Just take a day off and spend it in the coffin.
I wish, but college starts tomorrow. I need to get up at 6.30 am. (Which is 4 hours from now. :( )
You know what to do.

Apparently its easier to sleep when you're high.
Indeed it is. Luckily I got a bag of weed (yay for home-grown) right here.
Not bad...not bad at all. I think two hits will send you to sleep.
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Neoteny wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
svtoflord wrote: As for the Muslim religion, it developed off of Christianity.
No, it didn't. If you've read the Koran you'd know that. Heck, if you knew who Mohammad was and what he did you'd know the difference.

Mohammad:

Orders the death of rivals by sycophantic followers

Marries the widow of a man he had executed, by same group of cultists noless, against her will I might add.

Marries the wife of his nephew, basically using the "It is the Holy thing to do" agrument, since he would know being the Prophet of Allah and all

Says to one group of followers one thing, returns to Mecca and says something else, then when group A shows up, he turns about-face again, claiming Shaitan (Satan) deceived him (the Satanic Verses, which are in the Koran).

Koran say a man may have up to but no more than four wifes. Mohammad violated this law, which he put in there!

Suffered from depression and suicidal tendices, even after he claimed to had seen "Allah" (who was covered so 'He' could not be seen. If Moses, who is proportedly a lesser prophet, like Jesus (Isa in the Koran), actually saw God in all of His manifest glory on Sinai, then why not Mohammed, if he is indeed who he claims to be?).

Contrasted with Christ Jesus:

Committed no sins nor broke any law, Mosiac or Roman.

Never advocated killing unbelievers (admittedly, some have done so in His name, but that it not condoned by anything He or any of the apostles said or did).

He was in every other way the polar opposite of Mohammed. The Bible is nothing like the Koran, which contains over 100 verses that repeat the theme of "kill the Infidel, JIHAD!!!!", allows Jews and Christians, in the status of Dhirmitude (I think I spelled that wrong?) to be married to muslim men againt their will even if they are already married and by the nature of the related Hadith and Shar'ia laws stands opposed to democratic rule if follows in the manner in which Mohammed intended.

Tell me again how this two are similar?
Noone ever claimed (at least on this thread) that Mohammed was consistent. But his inconsistency has no bearing on the development of the religion. Different main characters, but very similar back story (though there are noticable discrepancies between the two).

And what are these anti-anti-Islam pills you speak of? I think I might need some. Or just some anti-anti-religion pills. I really feel bad about hating religions as much as I do... a little, at least.
On bearing?! Mohammed created Islam from the ground up, he has sole responsiblity for it's beginings and where it went. Arguing that "well the Catholics did this or that back then" is pointless as nothing that they did is condoned in the Bible at all, especially by Jesus.

Another comparision:

Christianity: for the first three hundred years, christians were a persecution sect. And yet, they didn't go about knifing Romans in dark alleys.

Islam: From day one, they have ever been on a war (in the Koran, it is called Jihad) to convert or kill infidels. There is a reason that the world, acccording to the Koran, is divided into the Dar al-Islam (the House of Submission) and the Dar al-Harb (the House of War).

Jesus said He and we are called to "Set the captive free"; Islam aims to bring all people into submission.

While Jews and Christians, after being vanquished in battle, are to be treated under the Dhirimitude system (pretty sure that I bungled the spelling again.), pagans are basically fair game.

Heck, I'm on a role:

Look up the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and what the Muslim countries think about it. Last I checked, they reject it as "a secular notion based on Judeo-Christian thinking and thus incompatible with the holy Shari'a Law."

Face it, they are not at all related, in fact, they couldn't be more different.
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