Turkey and EU

[muy_thaiguy]

Nah, it was just a shit comeback.

Nuh Uh.

You're enjoying this, aren't you.

[Dancing Mustard]

Like you wouldn't believe...

[Jenos Ridan]

Look, go find someone else to rant your irrelevant and warped pseudo-intellectual historical sophistries, I do actually know what I'm talking about here.

If you did, you'd know that the origins of Strasburg are not found in Latin, but in early Germanic dialects.

Not that you care, "you know what you are talking about". For you it seems, "Facts be damned, I have my patriotism to uphold and self-absorption to maintain".

I ask again, are you an accurate representation of the typical Frenchman or some sort of fringe radical? Anybody care to add their two cents worth? I've thrown in all I care to.

I ask again, are you an accurate representation of the typical American or some sort of simpleton? Care to find me anybody qualified who believes Alsace-Lorraine ought to be German (surely that's he historical consensus if I'm a "fringe radical")?

Coming from a whinny teenage brat, your repeated personnal attacks (at the risk of sounding cliche: You started it. Don't open cans of worms you aren't ready for.) are both unsurprising and dull.

In 1900, only 11% percent of the people living in Alsace-Lorraine spoke French as a mother language.

In 870, the Treaty of Meersen gave the region to the Holy Roman Empire, which was a primarily German nation. Since then, France has tried to suppress the native culture and in very recent times, succeeded to some degree.

Not you were ever concerned with the truth of the matter.

Care to save face now twerp?

[Napoleon Ier]

No believe me, the thing is here,I don't need to save "face". You're clearly so incorrect, and desperately clutching at straws by frantically googling away to drudge up stats you don't understand on a country you probably can't point out on the map, this whole exercise has just become an elaborate joke at your expense for me.

I'm sure you have plenty more theories about the UK rightfully belonging to Denmark or something because of 1066 though, eh?

[Neoteny]

Is this what happens when an unstoppable object hits an unmovable wall?

[Dancing Mustard]

Is this what happens when an unstoppable object hits an unmovable wall?

Nah.

[Neoteny]

Is this what happens when an unstoppable object hits an unmovable wall?

Nah.

Just two unmovable walls leaning against each other? There's some kind of absurdity here that needs to be characterized...

[Dancing Mustard]

Ohhhh

It's no fun when people don't play the game with me.


But yeah, we ought to have more Nappy V Jenny debates in the future, they're fun to watch.

[Neoteny]

Ohhhh

It's no fun when people don't play the game with me.


But yeah, we ought to have more Nappy V Jenny debates in the future, they're fun to watch.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. In that respect, is it time for a...

C c c combo breaker!

[Napoleon Ier]

Ohhhh

It's no fun when people don't play the game with me.


But yeah, we ought to have more Nappy V Jenny debates in the future, they're fun to watch.

No, no, Mustard, you don't understand: I appreciate the annals of Alsatian history may not interest you greatly, but believe me, even Ignotus, a lily-livered lefty jellyfish if there ever was one found Jenos' pseudo-historical bullshit funny. There is no 'debât' here, only a monkey who knows about as much about France as he would were he some Bush Jr./Miss Teen South Carolina cross-breed arguing against, however wrong you think me on other issues, an at least thoroughbred Hexagonian. No anti-Southern slur intended by the way Neoteny, you know me better than that, but I can think of no two mongoloids of sufficient calibre to describe quite how retarded Jenos sounds to anyone with a clue about French history.

[Neoteny]

Ohhhh

It's no fun when people don't play the game with me.


But yeah, we ought to have more Nappy V Jenny debates in the future, they're fun to watch.

No, no, Mustard, you don't understand: I appreciate the annals of Alsatian history may not interest you greatly, but believe me, even Ignotus, a lily-livered lefty jellyfish if there ever was one found Jenos' pseudo-historical bullshit funny. There is no 'debât' here, only a monkey who knows about as much about France as he would were he some Bush Jr./Miss Teen South Carolina cross-breed arguing against, however wrong you think me on other issues, an at least thoroughbred Hexagonian. No anti-Southern slur intended by the way Neoteny, you know me better than that, but I can think of no two mongoloids of sufficient calibre to describe quite how retarded Jenos sounds to anyone with a clue about French history.

I have a story about South Carolina that I'm keeping to myself. No offense taken.

[Dancing Mustard]

I don't have a clue about Ancient French History... nor do I have an opinion on who is 'winning' this debate. All I know is that it's great fun to watch.

[Napoleon Ier]

I don't have a clue about Ancient French History... nor do I have an opinion on who is 'winning' this debate. All I know is that it's great fun to watch.

I mean, to give you an idea, he's sort of saying that French culture is Frankish (and that somehow justifies a German Alsace-Lorraine, y'know, that patch of land we fought a world war I seem to recall they lost over). So, that'd be like me claiming that Britain is Norman because of 1066: it's clearly more complex than that, but of course, Jenos has read the coloured world history encyclopedia for children in which he saw France coloured in a yellowish shade, and so considers himself expert on the matter.

[Napoleon Ier]

Ohhhh

It's no fun when people don't play the game with me.


But yeah, we ought to have more Nappy V Jenny debates in the future, they're fun to watch.

No, no, Mustard, you don't understand: I appreciate the annals of Alsatian history may not interest you greatly, but believe me, even Ignotus, a lily-livered lefty jellyfish if there ever was one found Jenos' pseudo-historical bullshit funny. There is no 'debât' here, only a monkey who knows about as much about France as he would were he some Bush Jr./Miss Teen South Carolina cross-breed arguing against, however wrong you think me on other issues, an at least thoroughbred Hexagonian. No anti-Southern slur intended by the way Neoteny, you know me better than that, but I can think of no two mongoloids of sufficient calibre to describe quite how retarded Jenos sounds to anyone with a clue about French history.

I have a story about South Carolina that I'm keeping to myself. No offense taken.

Aww...but now you've mentioned it, you've kindled an interest, so you have to tell us.

[Neoteny]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

[got tonkaed]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

you had an operation to remove a testicle and you are a now compensating...

why didnt you tell us?

[Neoteny]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

you had an operation to remove a testicle and you are a now compensating...

why didnt you tell us?

O_o

Ironically enough, I learned the USC kid actually had to have that operation. Your name isn't Matt, by any chance, is it? Because you're weirding me out...

[got tonkaed]

tis not actually...would have been fun to play off that for a while.

anyway...heres to multinational groups and their inclusionary standards!

(to get things back on whatever track they were supposed to be)

[Napoleon Ier]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

Bof, seeing as a little virility expressing itself once in a while on an internet game forum, why not?

[Neoteny]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

Bof, seeing as a little virility expressing itself once in a while on an internet game forum, why not?

I suppose that if I can't brag about my exploits in semi-anonymity, where can I brag about them?

[Napoleon Ier]

It's really not that interesting. Just a blurb about a girl whose boyfriend was attending college at U of SC. Long story short, GA > SC.

Is it just me, or have my posts been a lot more testosterone driven recently? What is that about?

Bof, seeing as a little virility expressing itself once in a while on an internet game forum, why not?

I suppose that if I can't brag about my exploits in semi-anonymity, where can I brag about them?

Oh! Oh...you mean...GA>SC in terms of...the size of the native trouser snakes?

[Neoteny]

Oh! Oh...you mean...GA>SC in terms of...the size of the native trouser snakes?

There were indeed multiple meanings to that expression, including the one that nobody would have known about had GT not mentioned testicular removal.

[multiplayertim]

seriously wtf happen this thread it was a debate about Turkey joining EU for about 10 posts.
My opinion is NO. I think that Turkey has a long way to go really.

"Joining the European Union is linked to strict conditions and involves the new EU member states carrying out a number of duties. Before effective negotiations can begin the new EU member states must fulfil 3 criteria, which are:
1) To have stable institutions that guarantee democracy, a constitutional state, the rights of man, and respect for and protection of minorities.
2) To have a workable market economy and sufficient potential to stand up to competition and to market forces operating within the EU.
3) On joining, to be capable of fulfilling the obligations arising out of their membership and in particular to support the aims of political, economic and monetary union. In technical jargon this is called the adoption of acquis communautaire. Which means that they must convert the whole of the European social, economic and environmental legislation into national law and guarantee the effective application of them"

1) definatly not at the moment

2) possible but a bit more stability might help convince me

3) Turkey has always been very independant hard to see it conform to EU rules so quickly

anyway Turkey has enough enemies in the EU to ensure it will be a long time before they get even seriously considered

[Snorri1234]

anyway Turkey has enough enemies in the EU to ensure it will be a long time before they get even seriously considered

Also a reason why 1 and 2 don't matter at the moment as any person with just a slight knowledge of euro-politics knows it'll be a long time before turkey joins the eu.

[Jenos Ridan]

No believe me, the thing is here,I don't need to save "face".

Ok, here's your bottle.

You're clearly so incorrect, and desperately clutching at straws by frantically googling away to drudge up stats you don't understand on a country you probably can't point out on the map, this whole exercise has just become an elaborate joke at your expense for me.

Since you refuse with facts a thing I've said, so......

while you imagine that you have somehow pulled a victory out of your arse, you've only succeeded in making an arse of yourself.

Prove me wrong, decisively or go play with yourself.

Also,

Your comments on a "yoddling 6-finger Bob" and suchlike are so horribly cliched and in poor taste that any further debate demands that you stay on topic and try to refuse my position with facts.

I'm sure you have plenty more theories about the UK rightfully belonging to Denmark or something because of 1066 though, eh?

No, not really. I think that territory is your domain. Remember, stay on topic.