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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:16 am
by LSU Tiger Josh
Neutrino wrote:Just a question: do the mafia require a unanamous descision to assassinate someone, or just a majority?

Would all mafia members have to have expressed their opinions before they could kill someone?

These are the two specific posts that you made which should make it obvious to everyone that you are scum. Otherwise there is no reason that you would care about how the mafia decides on who to kill.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:17 am
by Neutrino
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:
Neutrino wrote:Just a question: do the mafia require a unanamous descision to assassinate someone, or just a majority?

Would all mafia members have to have expressed their opinions before they could kill someone?

These are the two specific posts that you made which should make it obvious to everyone that you are scum. Otherwise there is no reason that you would care about how the mafia decides on who to kill.
I was asking how Mafia decides on a kill for a very specific reason. If you had read back, you would know that reason.
But im not going to do an xtratabasco and say "I already said" and never tell you what you are looking for.
Neutrino wrote:Actually, im not Mafia ad I was asking those questions for a very particular reason.
Seeing as the Mafia Godfather is now a pile of mildly radioactive ash, I assume that all the mafia convened before they made their kill descision.

Now, if a vote was made by the Mafia on who to kill, it is assumed that all were presant to make that vote. Therefore all Mafia members must have confirmed before the death was announced.

The1Exile
Spielr
Nadgerous
Sheepofdumb
Spinwizard
Derfderf34
Willis
Kugelblitz22
Firecoal

That is a list of all the people who confirmed before the death was announced.
Therefore, assuming that all my earlier assumptions are correct, (a redundant statement, I know) above is a list of all the possible Mafia.
I asked those question to see if my plan would work. Of course, I didnt know about the Godfather ability to overrule the assassination choices.
If there was no godfather, and the entire Mafia had decided on a kill unamously, then my plan would have narrowed them down to 7 choices.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 am
by dwightschrute
interesting........

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:22 am
by LSU Tiger Josh
Or that is what you claim to try to cover up the fact you acted idiotic by being in the scum for the first time in trying to find out why the person you voted for was not the one in fact who died during night one. The fact of the matter is you accidently gave up the info that you are scum and are trying to do damage control.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:00 am
by nagerous
so the lynch on OID is out now?? we need to decide as a team who we lynch and thats who we agree as a team is most suspicious because at the moment if the no lynch is forced as someone i think aimless said earlier that is the worst possible thing, i now agree with his argument that an inactive will reduce the vote numbers to pass a lynch next round as the mafia are likely to kill an active in the night

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:59 am
by LSU Tiger Josh
my vote for neutrino still stands b/c at worst we kill an idiot at best a scum as he has shown signs of asking questions hinting that he is a scumball in this game.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:06 pm
by The1exile
Unvote

I honestly don't buy that Neut is scum. Josh your logic fails simply because Neut is not an idiot, and because he's actually making a good point.

I think it would be the mafia who are more likely to ask via pm so as not to give themselves away.

Neut made a mistake. but I don't think it's a scum one.

Aimless, forgive my skimming ways but I have a headache and cba to read back, why vote spinwizard instead of getting the mod top prod him??

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:19 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
FOS at The1exile and Fircoal for both being so quick to defend Neutrino when it should be obvious to everyone that Neutrino is scum. Other two may or may not be, but it sure is suspicious how they both adamently deny that Neutrino isn't scum unless they are in cahoots with him in the scum gang.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:22 pm
by The1exile
I'm not vehemently defending him, I just don't think your logic makes sense. If we lynch him and he turns out townie, it'll be your head.

Neutrino was doing a logic check to see if he vcould track the mafia, and you jumped on him for it. Seems fishy to me but I've had moments where I've been convinced I was rioght when I was wrong in the past.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:41 pm
by Aimless
The1exile wrote:Aimless, forgive my skimming ways but I have a headache and cba to read back, why vote spinwizard instead of getting the mod top prod him??
Replacements are hard to get. And I want to set up a disincentive to deadbeat. So lynch the deadbeaters. Plus, it's day one. I can think of worse reasons to lynch that this one.

If they do get replaced, that's fine.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:45 pm
by The1exile
Aimless wrote:
The1exile wrote:Aimless, forgive my skimming ways but I have a headache and cba to read back, why vote spinwizard instead of getting the mod top prod him??
Replacements are hard to get. And I want to set up a disincentive to deadbeat. So lynch the deadbeaters. Plus, it's day one. I can think of worse reasons to lynch that this one.

If they do get replaced, that's fine.
I don't think spin should be a deadweight - isn't he hosting the prison mafia?

Just ask the mod to prod him (not replace him) and he should come in posting a defence.

He's not that active, IIRC, but not a deadbeat.

(And yes, I realise I am defending people a lot, but you guys don't make sense to me.)

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:46 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
The1exile wrote:I'm not vehemently defending him, I just don't think your logic makes sense. If we lynch him and he turns out townie, it'll be your head.

Neutrino was doing a logic check to see if he vcould track the mafia, and you jumped on him for it. Seems fishy to me but I've had moments where I've been convinced I was rioght when I was wrong in the past.
Let it be on my head. I'm willing to take that risk. Neutrino is doing his best to make the townies vote for the wrong people. Fircoal has enough experience in these games to try to help him with damage control on that matter plus as someone pointed out Fircoal is usually a scum and being that you can't easily follow the facts of the matter that townies don't need to know exaclty how mafia vote in the game makes me think that you are the 3rd member of the scum.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:52 pm
by The1exile
I wouldn't usually be willing to possibly sacrifice 2 townies, but that in itself makes me think you may be scum.... we'll see how the neut lynch turns out, if there's going to be one.

*sighs* Vote Neutrino then I guess.

Alo the thing about Fircoal always being scum is an in-regular-mafia-game-players joke.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:53 pm
by Aimless
Mmmm. I disagree with this, Exile. I'm almost certain that Neut is town.

I'm starting to lean towards Josh being scum, though.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:58 pm
by The1exile
Aimless wrote:Mmmm. I disagree with this, Exile. I'm almost certain that Neut is town.

I'm starting to lean towards Josh being scum, though.
Me too. But we get a essentially non-random lynch on day 1 that if proves neut is a townie, then we've probably caught ourselves a scum. It's not the best tactic I have, but meh, you suggested lynching a guy who probably just didn't look at this game instead of prodding him so damned if I take your advice :P

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:59 pm
by LSU Tiger Josh
When I turn up dead you'll know that I was right about Neutrino for sure while the others I don't know. Neutrino opened his mouth and showed his true colors earlier.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:00 pm
by Aimless
Bah.

I'm pissed off at lurkers and deadbeaters right now. See the bizzaro game if you need to know why.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:02 pm
by The1exile
At least you didn't get insta NK'd when you had a good role...

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:05 pm
by Aimless
Hehe.

You wouldn't have kept it. :P

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:57 pm
by pancakemix
Vote count

Fircoal-1 (Kugelblitz22)
Orange-Idaho-Dog-5 ( sheepofdumb, willis, Neutrino, dominationnation, nagerous)
Neutrino-2(the1exile, LSU Tiger Josh)
Spinwizard-2(Aimless, Orange-Idaho-Dog)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is Wed., 7:30 EDT (GMT-4)

the1exile:Did you vote for someone before? If so, who? It is really important.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:22 pm
by dwightschrute
OID has spoken

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:27 pm
by pancakemix
WARNING: 2 hours remaining.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:42 pm
by sheepofdumb
Well we have two hours. I was going to take my OID vote away but seeing as we have two hours I think I'll keep it unless we pick a new target and bandwagon him.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:46 pm
by willis
yeah I think a lynch today would hels more than a no lynch..

So who is it gonna be?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:58 pm
by nagerous
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:When I turn up dead you'll know that I was right about Neutrino for sure while the others I don't know. Neutrino opened his mouth and showed his true colors earlier.
Lol now you've said that and if neutrino is mafia you've probably saved your ass as it would be a clear sign if you got lynched