[INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Archive please

[TimWoodbury]

PS town i just checked my mail figured id check it was expecting mail about guide games and yada yada turns out i ot a intereting mail appearently in the night i had a dream of not 1 but 2 people. what casued me to have this dream i do not know, however it will prolly end up getting me killed BUT i can help with getting 2 bad people killed

1)LSU= WareWolf
2)Epi=Skum

with that im going to go ahead and say

vote LSU
figure we can get lsu then epi or if yall want we can do epi and then LSU

[Streaker]

And both sent them to you? Incredible...

As the 2 seer results have to be accurate, they are both scum/wolf or Tim is lying. It's suicide to lie about this, so I believe them.

2 free lynches, Vote LSU

[TimWoodbury]

yah not sure how i got so lucky on it. but either way its 2 free lynches very glad i checked my mail

[TimWoodbury]

even better after reading the 1st post the investigates cant send result to themselves so looks like D3 we will or should hopefully have the last 2 people.

[Ragian]

Holy fridge!

It seems that we've gotten two free lynches. Brilliant. Obviously, we're lynching LSU first and then epi (unless LSU is not scum, of course). However, there's no reason not to talk and use the day, though.

For instance, I want dakky to explain 1) Why he came out guns blazing against streaker and then made a switch, 2) Why he urged everyone to vote and threatened (with FOS, but still) those who didn't, but then came out D2 pointing his finger at the hammer, and 3) Why he bases his vote on Tim on something with spaces.

Surely, we need some answers to that.

Luckily, if Tim's investigations are real (this is the time to speak up if you received an investigation and Tim is lying), we have one nearly confirmed town given that he received investigations from both non-town parties. I realise that one of them could have sent the investigation to their own goon, but I find it unlikely.

Let's talk first and vote later. We all know who is lynched today, but we can still use the information we have. We don't have to go to night phase just now.

FP'ed by Tim

@Tim, they may target their partner.

[Marashu]

DAILY VOTE COUNT:
Tim: dakky (L-5)
LSU: TimWoodbury, Streaker (L-4)
Not Voting: Epitaph1, Whatsausage, madmitch, LSU, MrBelly, Ragian, HotShot, mtamburini

Deadline is Tuesday, December 29, 1600CCT. With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

[dakky21]

Holy fridge!

It seems that we've gotten two free lynches. Brilliant. Obviously, we're lynching LSU first and then epi (unless LSU is not scum, of course). However, there's no reason not to talk and use the day, though.

For instance, I want dakky to explain 1) Why he came out guns blazing against streaker and then made a switch, 2) Why he urged everyone to vote and threatened (with FOS, but still) those who didn't, but then came out D2 pointing his finger at the hammer, and 3) Why he bases his vote on Tim on something with spaces.

Surely, we need some answers to that.

Luckily, if Tim's investigations are real (this is the time to speak up if you received an investigation and Tim is lying), we have one nearly confirmed town given that he received investigations from both non-town parties. I realise that one of them could have sent the investigation to their own goon, but I find it unlikely.

Let's talk first and vote later. We all know who is lynched today, but we can still use the information we have. We don't have to go to night phase just now.

FP'ed by Tim

@Tim, they may target their partner.

Let me answer you all three questions, one and two first: I said it's not beneficial to town not to lynch D1. You agreed at some point and hammered. I FOS'd all those who didn't vote because they either don't care who will get lynched, or they like a no lynch as well.

Third: if you try to quote Tim's post:

there has been 3 town kills thus far mean only 6 left, with that said im curious what is it that made Dakky AND Belly come out guns blazing saying x or Y MUST be killed today??

i woudnt exactly say were at lynch lose right now as heck tongiht both groups of skum(warwolf and mafia) could potentially end up killing each other meaning it be 5 town vrs 2 skum.

First you will notice that first sentence is almost 100% grammatically correct while the second is made up with standard Tim's gibberish, and the second sentence starts with a space (there is a space character in " i wouldnt". Looks like a bad copy paste to me.

Now back to the Tim's findings. What is the chance that Seer hits the werewolf AND that Oracle hits mafia AND they both send the results to Tim? I'd say very low, close to zero. Now, if Tim is lying:

D2: lynch town (down to 5)
N2: kill another 2 town (down to 3)
D3: lynch Tim (mafia or werewolf to 1)
N3: mafia or werewolf (whoever has 2 members remaining hits town - down to 2)
N3: mafia or werewolf (whoever has 1 member remaining hits another faction)
D4: it's 2v1,1 and mafia/werewolf wins

If Tim is telling the truth, we have a lot more chances, but you know it.

[madmitch]

Hope Tim is telling the truth, but I liked LSU as a pick for scum anyway,VOTE LSU

[MrBellyBangBang]

PS town i just checked my mail figured id check it was expecting mail about guide games and yada yada turns out i ot a intereting mail appearently in the night i had a dream of not 1 but 2 people. what casued me to have this dream i do not know, however it will prolly end up getting me killed BUT i can help with getting 2 bad people killed

1)LSU= WareWolf
2)Epi=Skum

with that im going to go ahead and say

vote LSU
figure we can get lsu then epi or if yall want we can do epi and then LSU

Difficult to see how anyone can challenge this, a much needed break for town. I liked LSU as a lynch already but now it seems beyond doubt. Must say I'm surprised that Epi is scum.
Anyway let's just go ahead and vote LSU.

I agree with what has been said about not shutting off now, okay so we've got the next two lynches but we still need to find two more. Not sure how this makes me feel about madmitch, madmitch and LSU had a bit of a senseless quarrel going on, now that LSU is confirmed scum I suppose that makes madmitch look better but he really didn't have any good reason for voting LSU as early as he did. If they're on the same side however they most likely wouldn't want to the other lynched. Overall I think I'm less suspicious of madmitch now.

[MrBellyBangBang]

Holy fridge!

It seems that we've gotten two free lynches. Brilliant. Obviously, we're lynching LSU first and then epi (unless LSU is not scum, of course). However, there's no reason not to talk and use the day, though.

For instance, I want dakky to explain 1) Why he came out guns blazing against streaker and then made a switch, 2) Why he urged everyone to vote and threatened (with FOS, but still) those who didn't, but then came out D2 pointing his finger at the hammer, and 3) Why he bases his vote on Tim on something with spaces.

Surely, we need some answers to that.

Luckily, if Tim's investigations are real (this is the time to speak up if you received an investigation and Tim is lying), we have one nearly confirmed town given that he received investigations from both non-town parties. I realise that one of them could have sent the investigation to their own goon, but I find it unlikely.

Let's talk first and vote later. We all know who is lynched today, but we can still use the information we have. We don't have to go to night phase just now.

FP'ed by Tim

@Tim, they may target their partner.

You're certainly overanalyzing that post, he had an extra space somewhere so he's scum, he wrote one line in english and another in timlish so he's scum. You have to motivate a FOS better than that.

Let me answer you all three questions, one and two first: I said it's not beneficial to town not to lynch D1. You agreed at some point and hammered. I FOS'd all those who didn't vote because they either don't care who will get lynched, or they like a no lynch as well.

It was such a blatantly obvious bad lynch, no one even cared to motivate why he should be lynched other than that he grew quiet and overanalyzed an early post. I'm suspicious of the people who joined in on that bandwagon without even trying to figure out why he should be lynched.



I forgot about enough votes forcing an early night, so...
unvote LSU

[mtamburini]

Ran out of data on my phone wont be back until the 21st or 22nd I cant remember when my billing period is. I will attempt to go to the library this weekend to keep up and add reads, briefly just saw tim say he got both msgs saying ones wolf ones scum etc.

Ive got some theories but not enough time to explain them as im temporary stealing internet to send this msg but DO NOT END THIS DAY WITHOUT ME POSTING

[Ragian]

Guys, withhold your votes. There's no need to end this day without discussing.

@dakky, you ignored the point of my question: On the one hand, you FOS'ed whoever didn't vote and then on the other hand, you FOS'ed the hammer. That is some contradictory stuff right there. How can you justify that? FOS

Also, we have got on record that dakky is going for Tim because of keyboard features (apparently) and tries to discredit his information. While I agree that it is a weird coincidence that Tim whould have received both results and that both came up with non-town information, it would be really bad play to be lying about this as he would get lynched and only give the other non-town faction a bigger chance of winning. And, as Belly noted, LSU was an obvious choice for investigation. It should be added, too, that endgame was on to epi (I know I wasn't) which may have steered an investigation that way too.

Dakky is acting very scummily in my opinion.

[Streaker]

I agree with Rage on Epi. Also dakky's push on me made little sense.
Probably 3rd scum found

[dakky21]

@dakky, you ignored the point of my question: On the one hand, you FOS'ed whoever didn't vote and then on the other hand, you FOS'ed the hammer. That is some contradictory stuff right there. How can you justify that? FOS

You're making an OMGUS case.
I said you hammered and put a FOS on you, now you're trying to build a case around it and frame me for what, want to lynch someone D1 (while you yourself said it's not beneficial not to hammer 5 mins before the deadline)? I don't understand what are you trying to do here, explain the obvious?

[Ragian]

No, I'm pointing out your discrepancy. You FOS'ed non-voters because no lynch (with which I agree) is bad for town as no information is gained and you FOS the hammer who secured the lynch. You can't have it both ways.

Ironically, you gave LSU heat for hammering, not realising that I was the hammer.

[Marashu]

DAILY VOTE COUNT:
Tim: dakky (L-5)
LSU: TimWoodbury, Streaker, madmitch (L-3)
Not Voting: Epitaph1, Whatsausage, LSU, MrBelly, Ragian, HotShot, mtam

Deadline is Tuesday, December 29, 1600CCT. With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch. Will be prodding inactives tomorrow morning.

[Ragian]

Whatsausage is not voting, eh?

[TimWoodbury]

while i agree that dakky came out gun blazing hes really already went after streaker and then now semi after me so kinda suspicious from him there.
and yes it i total crazy odds that both ides would pick me to receive the info but really if i was lying it would mean that im dead tomorrow and my team is at even worse odds

[Epitaph1]

It's alright, dakky. They got this. We're dead in the water and there is no way around it. There's no point in fighting it so you might as well lie down your sword and join me in the grave. We'll see if the werewolves can pull this off. They'll have three nights of killing before the town will get around to hunting the last one down.

I'm just going to say that I'm rooting for the werewolves since the mafia are done for.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Nah, we don't have this one. Tim messed up and included throwing me under the bus for some reason. He was suppose to hold that info and use it later, but evidently that part of the discussion was failed. I actually had gotten a townie read sent to me on Endgame since I didn't trust sending the received info to a 3rd party or possibly the opposing scum side.

Go ahead and lynch Epitaph and myself since we obviously deserve a lynching. Vote epitaph

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Tim kill Epi tonight if I'm lynched or kill dakky if epi is lynched. Either way I'm dead by tomorrow. Good game all.

[MrBellyBangBang]

It's alright, dakky. They got this. We're dead in the water and there is no way around it. There's no point in fighting it so you might as well lie down your sword and join me in the grave. We'll see if the werewolves can pull this off. They'll have three nights of killing before the town will get around to hunting the last one down.

I'm just going to say that I'm rooting for the werewolves since the mafia are done for.

Nah, we don't have this one. Tim messed up and included throwing me under the bus for some reason. He was suppose to hold that info and use it later, but evidently that part of the discussion was failed. I actually had gotten a townie read sent to me on Endgame since I didn't trust sending the received info to a 3rd party or possibly the opposing scum side.

Go ahead and lynch Epitaph and myself since we obviously deserve a lynching. Vote epitaph

Am I seeing what I'm seeing? Did you guys both rat out the other member of your own faction? WTF?

[HotShot53]

It's alright, dakky. They got this. We're dead in the water and there is no way around it. There's no point in fighting it so you might as well lie down your sword and join me in the grave. We'll see if the werewolves can pull this off. They'll have three nights of killing before the town will get around to hunting the last one down.

I'm just going to say that I'm rooting for the werewolves since the mafia are done for.

Nah, we don't have this one. Tim messed up and included throwing me under the bus for some reason. He was suppose to hold that info and use it later, but evidently that part of the discussion was failed. I actually had gotten a townie read sent to me on Endgame since I didn't trust sending the received info to a 3rd party or possibly the opposing scum side.

Go ahead and lynch Epitaph and myself since we obviously deserve a lynching. Vote epitaph

Am I seeing what I'm seeing? Did you guys both rat out the other member of your own faction? WTF?

Either they just ratted out their teammates... or they just threw some innocent townies under the bus hoping for some mislynches. Or they threw their scummates under the bus, thinking we'd assume they'd try to throw townies under the bus, and so we wouldn't lynch their buddies. Once scum get caught, you can't really believe anything that they post, everything becomes WIFOM.

I wasn't expecting this good of results when I asked who got the results last night lol. I would believe tim, since nothing can mess up an investigation, he's either telling the truth, or he gets lynched the next day... so there is no way a scum would make up a result; trading one mislynch for a guaranteed lynch is not a good trade, especially when you have scum competition.

[dakky21]

It's alright, dakky. They got this. We're dead in the water and there is no way around it. There's no point in fighting it so you might as well lie down your sword and join me in the grave. We'll see if the werewolves can pull this off. They'll have three nights of killing before the town will get around to hunting the last one down.

I'm just going to say that I'm rooting for the werewolves since the mafia are done for.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a phishing attempt? I am not Epi's mate, and I am certainly not his mafia partner. Really Epi, why me? Why blackmail me?

vote epi

Go blackmail someone else mate... "mate".

[TimWoodbury]

Tim kill Epi tonight if I'm lynched or kill dakky if epi is lynched. Either way I'm dead by tomorrow. Good game all.

dude dont you dare try to pull this last second BS you know as well as i know that im not your partner... if i was your partner then why d h3ll would i have outed you???? like really i out you you rat on me i get killed seriouly i hope town dont really bealive this