Moderator: Cartographers

I believe that my initial concern with the colors was that I couldn't tell the region borders from the territory borders (or was that another map?). That problem was solved. As for whether or not I can match the regions with the colors... well, not exactly, but I can live with it as is. With ten regions and a soft color scheme, I don't think you're going to find ten colors that I can tell apart. The ideal solutions for me would be either adding either region names to the map or the creation of a small map, but even without that I will be able to work things out based on my limited knowledge of the region (I assume the Syria region is the one that includes the Syria territory, Italian probably includes Italian, etc.) and a little help from BoB.cairnswk wrote:EDIT// After checking Oaktown first came into comment on this map around page 9. Nothing about the colours in 6 pages. Can't be a problem.
arrow removed.oaktown wrote:cairnswk wrote:....
Is the Edirne/Constantinople arrow necessary?
How are we on bonuses?? Any other concerns from the Foundry?
And visually I agree with that bit about the star not suggesting ports... maybe instead of making it port-like, you came up with something entirely British looking, since they are British ports? Some kind of British naval insignia? Crown?





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yes the pixel is 1 too high.Incandenza wrote:Couple things:
on the small map, the army looks a pixel too high in british kuwait.
Also, I'm wondering if perhaps there isn't a more elegant solution to having the "port" icon so far away from the name and army circle for anglo-egyptian sudan. Does the port really need to be there in the first place? That area's already pretty lousy with ports.

Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...cairnswk wrote:Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.
Yes, it is 18px the same as all the others....and i re-checked for you.ZeakCytho wrote:Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...cairnswk wrote:Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Must be some kind of illusion...or I'm going crazy...cairnswk wrote:Yes, it is 18px the same as all the others....and i re-checked for you.ZeakCytho wrote:Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...cairnswk wrote:Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Mmmmm, you are changing you're mind lately.yeti_c wrote:Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...
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I would have to agree...but of course you can't make everyone happyyeti_c wrote:Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...
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Forza AZ wrote: XML is OK now.


oak i don't understand how you must cope with this challenge, but....oaktown wrote:Since there doesn't seem to be any outstanding gameplay concerns being discussed, and mine have all been addressed, I guess there's nothing left for me to do here.
British Kuwait is really busy - you can't even see the land under there anymore. Maybe pull the army circle off the land entirely and just float it over the territory name?
I like the crowns, but the color doesn't seem to fit the map's overall palette. (Says the colorblind gameplay guy!)

Thanks for the stampoaktown wrote:...
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Top Score:2403natty_dread wrote:I was wrong
Mmmmmmmgimil wrote:Looking fine cairns. Ill give it another day or two to see if anyone else has any other graphical issues

Because after putting crowns, i think they look better now.qwert wrote:hmm,why you change your previious Stars and put crown? Stars look much better then these crowns.

Contrast given at 36.The Neon Peon wrote:If we are keeping the crowns, could you change the constrast between the colors of the crowns slightly to make it a little more? The orange-yellow blends in with the red.
They look fine to me.Also, they seem rather jagged round the edges. Possibly smooth them out a little?
Mesopotamia lines are fine, they are consistent and all the same.Two other points, all the lines between the territories in Mesopotamia are different. The line between Bitlis and Van does not extend far enough by 1 or two pixels.
