Re: War of the Triple Cult (Day 1)
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:03 pm
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last stroop post he unvoted, never got a vote in sincempjh wrote:Also, you don't show stroop's vote.
You edited this post, twice. Thats a big mafia no-no and could get you modkilled depending on nate.spaceghst44 wrote:unvote
fell free to kill me. I don't really care at this point, the game has no longer become fun, just a bunch of people not thinking about possibilities, getting mad at someone thinking outside the box (which I am sure you will find out this game certainly is) and passing on blame with random hysterical votes. You all are just going to lynch a vanilla townie, a roll I get in every game.
I have made my claim, feel free to cast your vote, and if that is not enough, well then too bad.
Once I am hung and you see that I am nothing more than vanilla, then cast your votes accordingly, starting with the bandwagoners who don't read posts, just skim them without thinking about what they could possibly mean.
With three cults, they will end up just stealing members from each other.
@ kagetora, you said that you could detect who was in a cult, but not the color. That is a big detail that you left out until now.
pmchugh wrote:I edited because the [ in the bold did not make the unvote bold. sorry, should have posted unvote again in bold, did not edit content.spaceghst44 wrote:unvote
fell free to kill me. I don't really care at this point, the game has no longer become fun, just a bunch of people not thinking about possibilities, getting mad at someone thinking outside the box (which I am sure you will find out this game certainly is) and passing on blame with random hysterical votes. You all are just going to lynch a vanilla townie, a roll I get in every game.
I have made my claim, feel free to cast your vote, and if that is not enough, well then too bad.
Once I am hung and you see that I am nothing more than vanilla, then cast your votes accordingly, starting with the bandwagoners who don't read posts, just skim them without thinking about what they could possibly mean.
With three cults, they will end up just stealing members from each other.
@ kagetora, you said that you could detect who was in a cult, but not the color. That is a big detail that you left out until now.
As for hating attitudes.......... that is a two way street.
You edited this post, twice. Thats a big mafia no-no and could get you modkilled depending on nate.
I hate this attitude, saying you will see when im dead, giving in and complaining at the game and/or players.
Oh I'm thinking about possibilities too. However I tend to not go with the most outrageous ones that rely solely upon misinterpretations of the set-up, claims and posts.spaceghst44 wrote: just a bunch of people not thinking about possibilities, getting mad at someone thinking outside the box (which I am sure you will find out this game certainly is) and passing on blame with random hysterical votes.
Interesting point, very unsubstantiated though (and I can't see how it affects kagetoras, or yours, cultiness). My guess is that cultists would be unrecruitable but we'll just have to wait and see.spaceghst44 wrote: With three cults, they will end up just stealing members from each other.
No he said he could only detect cults of his specific colour (as expected) and he said it from the start too.spaceghst44 wrote: @ kagetora, you said that you could detect who was in a cult, but not the color. That is a big detail that you left out until now.
I'm guessing this is just an exaggeration to make a point but it's still a lie though. You have in fact had other than vanilla roles.spaceghst44 wrote: You all are just going to lynch a vanilla townie, a roll I get in every game.
No actually I didn't.spaceghst44 wrote: THe ****** means that it was edited for content, a curse word. so yes actually you did.
The only person misinterpreted and mis quoted is me.Thezzaruz wrote:Oh I'm thinking about possibilities too. However I tend to not go with the most outrageous ones that rely solely upon misinterpretations of the set-up, claims and posts.spaceghst44 wrote: just a bunch of people not thinking about possibilities, getting mad at someone thinking outside the box (which I am sure you will find out this game certainly is) and passing on blame with random hysterical votes.
not really, read the cult leaders roll, cultists are recruitable, just has to be the right color.Thezzaruz wrote:Interesting point, very unsubstantiated though (and I can't see how it affects kagetoras, or yours, cultiness). My guess is that cultists would be unrecruitable but we'll just have to wait and see.spaceghst44 wrote: With three cults, they will end up just stealing members from each other.
Thezzaruz wrote:No he said he could only detect cults of his specific colour (as expected) and he said it from the start too.spaceghst44 wrote: @ kagetora, you said that you could detect who was in a cult, but not the color. That is a big detail that you left out until now.
kagetora wrote: I'll say a few key things from my role.
If the target clan attempts to recruit me, they will die.
I can investigate people and see if they are the target clan. <----- with two other clans, how do you know with out knowing color? Just that the other two are clan, but not the right color?
I can kill someone from the target clan. If I try and kill someone not from the target clan, I die.
I have been in four games, three were replacement rolls, one was confirmed "survivor" and one was confirmed "jester". not really power rolls, I consider them vanilla.Thezzaruz wrote:I'm guessing this is just an exaggeration to make a point but it's still a lie though. You have in fact had other than vanilla roles.spaceghst44 wrote: You all are just going to lynch a vanilla townie, a roll I get in every game.
[/quote]Thezzaruz wrote:No actually I didn't.spaceghst44 wrote: THe ****** means that it was edited for content, a curse word. so yes actually you did.
I wrote the stars myself (do this site even do auto editing?) as all words doesn't need to be written but can still provide a bit of unf to the post.
Sure it's possible (though not explicitly stated) I'll give you that. I still expect cultists to be non recruitable.spaceghst44 wrote: not really, read the cult leaders roll, cultists are recruitable, just has to be the right color.
Oh ffs target clan = the right colour otherwise it wouldn't be his target. We all understood that, right from his first claim.spaceghst44 wrote:kagetora wrote: I can investigate people and see if they are the target clan. <----- with two other clans, how do you know with out knowing color? Just that the other two are clan, but not the right color?
Well you are wrong. They are by definition specific roles and hence not vanilla. Power role or not doesn't factor in into the definition of vanilla.spaceghst44 wrote: not really power rolls, I consider them vanilla.
I posted a slightly harsh but commonly used equivalent of "liar" that with the rest of the post was clearly aimed at your behaviour in your role in this game. Your retort was directly personal. If that's the way you want to do business it's fine with me, just don't go running to mama to cry.spaceghst44 wrote: Ok, it was still implied, which in my book, means you did, you just did it in a pussy way.
Nah it's a bogus claim, take another look at what he named it.../ wrote:vote spaceghst44, you seriously are claiming cult leader? Makes the setup a lot easier, but takes a bit of fun out of it....
If I said it that way, it isn't what I meant.spaceghst44 wrote:@ kagetora, you said that you could detect who was in a cult, but not the color. That is a big detail that you left out until now.
I can agree with this, but it still could be. Like I said, the cults could end up taking members from each other, if that is possible, we do not know.Thezzaruz wrote:BS! If there where multiple cultists (9-12 already you say) then town would be completely powerless (especially if, as you say, the power roles such as kag belongs to the cults). No Way!!!spaceghst44 wrote:I think that is why he put that part in about "The goal of this game is to see which cult can win, or can the town overcome such huge odds?!". I am willing to bet there are 2 or 3, could be but no likely 4 cult members in each cult already.
if there was only 3 cult leaders, this roll would not be super powerful, my reasoning why I think there is more. Thin about it. There are three cult leaders, he has a 14% of detecting any of them on the first night. If he fails and detects someone else, then that person get recruited, he will move on and the person will go scott free. He is only powerful if there are more people in cults to begin with. One of my questions, to try and figure out if there were multiple cultists to begin with.Thezzaruz wrote:Makes perfect sense. Having it go against all cults would make it super powerful.spaceghst44 wrote: I just don't see why a town power roll could only go against one color. This makes no sense to me.
how does having 2 powers NOT seem odd?Thezzaruz wrote:So he shares 1 out of 3 powers and lacks one last. Yea they are so much alike...spaceghst44 wrote: kage's roll has the same qualities as the cult leader, just with killing (and detection, which seems really odd to have 2 powers) instead of recruiting. which makes him seem cult to me.![]()
that just means he gets recruited at night and has protection from votes, since the cult LEADER can't kill, and you are assuming there is only 1 of them, then it would be a couple of days before they would have enough power to kill him, unless they grabbed 1 of the other 2 "kag rolls" (<9% chance when you factor they could be going after the same one as another cult)Thezzaruz wrote:[I definitely expect there to 2 more of his role that targets the other 2 cults. Also what spiesr said about not letting the cults know whom he targets.spaceghst44 wrote: Also, why is he worried about colors, unless there is someone in the other colors who have the same power?
Thezzaruz wrote:[And I have to believe that you are full of ****. From your last posts I see so much poor reasoning and understanding that it has to be intentional, and also coupled with going completely over the top in your accusations. You sir are a cult leader trying to get rid of a big threat towards yourself.spaceghst44 wrote: I have to believe that kage is cult, maybe not cult leader, but definatly cult.![]()
followed by a vote, like I said with out allowing any explanation, followed by bandwagoning and skimmers piling on.Thezzaruz wrote:
This was a pretty quick claim with out allowing any explanation and pretty intense which set me off.
UnVote, Vote spaceghst44
I told you, I am not jester. I told my roll.Haggis_McMutton wrote:Hmm, not sure what to add here. Space has sure painted a huge target on his back, and seems by a large margin most suspicious.
Since he's only at 8 votes(i think), i'll vote spaceghst44
But do you guys think he might be jester?
and if you actually read you will see thatspaceghst44 wrote:I think that is why he put that part in about "The goal of this game is to see which cult can win, or can the town overcome such huge odds?!". I am willing to bet there are 2 or 3, could be but no likely 4 cult members in each cult already.
I just don't see why a town power roll could only go against one color. This makes no sense to me.
kage's roll has the same qualities as the cult leader, just with killing (and detection, which seems really odd to have 2 powers) instead of recruiting. which makes him seem cult to me.
Also, why is he worried about colors, unless there is someone in the other colors who have the same power? If it were a town person, it would not matter the colors, his "target" clan just could not recruit him, but the others could. There would also have to be three of them, one for each color. But, if you were in a color cult, the cult with your color could target you and take out your cult killer/cop. I do not see the point in worring about colors unless you are already cult.
I have to believe that kage is cult, maybe not cult leader, but definatly cult.
vote kage
FOS @ MJHP you have been constantly defending kage and trying to move the attention to other suspects. I have a strong feeling that you are in the same cult as kage, and possibly its leader.
Why are you defending a person who so strongly reeks of cult.
I mean really, are you that stupid? how do you breathe? 1 misinterpreted vote./ wrote:vote spaceghst44, you seriously are claiming cult leader? Makes the setup a lot easier, but takes a bit of fun out of it....
Bandwagon vote.Haggis_McMutton wrote:Hmm, not sure what to add here. Space has sure painted a huge target on his back, and seems by a large margin most suspicious.
Since he's only at 8 votes(i think), i'll vote spaceghst44
But do you guys think he might be jester?
bandwagon votecaptainwalrus wrote:Although I was really convinced about strooop....
Unvote
Vote Spaceghst44
why is this, because I had questions that weren't answered? nice one.mpjh wrote:I still think that stroop is cult, but there is a stronger case now for spaceghst44.
unvote
vote spaceghst44
This is an assumption that I was trying to figure out.william18 wrote:
Well there is only one person per cult.....[/b][/color]
This is relevant. he has two powers, not one. detection and killing. never played a game where a player had two powers.william18 wrote: This argument is irrlevent. A vigilante has the same power as the mafia... so what?
becausae he was defending a person I thought was scum, making him a scum buddy, sherlock.william18 wrote: How can he be a scum buddy ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
I said cult LEADERS can only recruit, not cult members. thanks for this retardedness.william18 wrote:
Now lets look at something a little closer shall we?
spaceghst44 wrote:No he has 2 out of three powers, he just can't recruit. They are very much alike, read the powers of the cult leader, if you replace kill with recruit, they are the same.Thezzaruz wrote:So he shares 1 out of 3 powers and lacks one last. Yea they are so much alike...spaceghst44 wrote:
kage's roll has the same qualities as the cult leader, just with killing (and detection, which seems really odd to have 2 powers) instead of recruiting. which makes him seem cult to me.![]()
Where are you getting this from? Cult members can only recruit.
Why? if I know not his color, why? I have a 66% chance of not getting killed by him, and it would take 2 days. This is retarded.william18 wrote:Perhaps spaceghst44 is worried about the cult hunter since he is a CL, thus grasping straws to try and get him lynched.
spiesr wrote:Whoa, spaceghst has gone off the rails to the point where he almost looks more like a jester than a cult leader.
Read what exactly? Whilliam wants to know what it is that makes you thing the cult leader have investigative powers. We can't find that info anywhere. The description of the role simply say:spaceghst44 wrote:READ IT YOURSELF.william18 wrote:Well then please point out what I missed.Not anything about investigating.Natewolfman wrote:Blue Cult Leader: During the day you act like a normal citizen, but at night you will select one player to recruit to your cause. Should a 'Red Cult Leader' pick the same player, YOU will gain the recruit. Should a 'Green Cult Leader' pick the same player, GREEN will gain the recruit. Should all 3 pick the same player, said player will be killed.
not freaking out, just tired that people are misquoting me and misinterpreting me. It is really annoying because it keeps happenning over and over again.spiesr wrote: The points that you made attacking kageatorro were incorrectly made or generally considered wrong at least. This does not necessarily mean he is town. No Need To Freak Out About It. I still am waiting for kagetaroo to explain some things but you are looking bad.
you are assuming and you need to stop and think a little about what I am saying, you just sound like you are babbling. thanks for your vote.pmchugh wrote:This pretty much says 3 cult leaders, 9 special townies and 9 vanilla townies.Natewolfman wrote:War of the Triple Cult
---Quick Overview---
The way this will work is simple, we start with 21 players, 3 of which are cult leaders, and 9 others will have special roles (only said players will know what roles these are, but trust me in that they are not all typical). The goal of this game is to see which cult can win, or can the town overcome such huge odds?!
Space you need to stop and think a little about what people are saying half the time you sound like you are babbling.
You are acting very oddly and are begginingto sound like a good day 1 lynch. unvote vote space
[/quote]pmchugh wrote:
I hate this attitude, saying you will see when im dead, giving in and complaining at the game and/or players.
explain why it was horrible, doubt you can.derfderf34 wrote:i still think that it is possible for cults to start with two members (3 of the nine special could be cult)
space you have basically given up and had horrible defense: when you have no defense you must have been scum
vote space
i dont think that there would be a jester in this game
not self pity, they are explanations.mpjh wrote:Space, nobody likes to read endless reams of self pity. If you don't want to play, get out. Actually it will be fun having you lynched just to have the self pity meter drop 3 decibels.