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Re: Could someone please tell WBC that God is LOVE.

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Woodruff wrote:As to free will...that's really NOT a cop out. It's a handy excuse, no argument...but it does make sense that God would want us to CHOOSE to follow him rather than being FORCED to, if he loves us.
If he's so loving, why would he care at all? It's not like he's exactly given us proof, written it on the moon in big shiny letters or something. If I'm a good person and there is a heaven and God really does love us and doesn't just care about having his ego stroked, why should it matter if I'm Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, atheist, etc?

He cares because He loves us. Imagine your child not loving you because they want to but rather because they are made to. That's not love is it? He has given us "proof". He wrote a bestselling book.
A lot of people have written bestselling books of fiction. That's no proof at all. In fact, that's not even evidence, never mind proof.
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Re: Could someone please tell WBC that God is LOVE.

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BigBallinStalin wrote:I've always thought love comes from within. It isn't something that can be lost, merely something that's always residing within you and occasionally is brought out by certain people or things. A very small amount of people have learned how to extend their love to everyone, which is an impressive feat.

Love does and doesn't have much to do with God, depending on what you want to believe.
Love does come from within, but can be repressed. One of the easiest ways to repress 'love' is to be extremely selfish; at that point, 'selfishness' becomes "narcissism." If any of you have read "People of the Lie: The hope for healing human evil," by M. Scott Peck, he makes some interesting arguments about "evil" being merely a lack of love for others. While Peck himself is Christian, his arguments surpass religious boundaries.

If you look at commandments, scriptures, philosophies of spiritual nature, then, regardless of your particular brand (of, or lack of, religion) most of them agree deep down that to show your faith, you should treat others with love. That love sometimes means compassion, it sometimes means sternness, but usually includes respect and an understanding that everyone has flaws. Even pagan forms of religion/philosophy include some aspect of love/respect (for nature, for some universal energy, for other members of the sect) as part of their beliefs.

So, to say that, "God is love," is an accurate assessment. The difficulty comes with how individuals define, "God." For some, "God" is a specific entity. For some, "God" started as a specific entity, then had a part-human son (sounds like Zeus' Hercules, eh?) and then when the mortal part of that son died there were three versions: father, son, holy ghost. For some, "God," is just one of a set of lots of entities who get the three-word label. For others, "God" is the name given to an energy that is in all life, like Heinlein's "Mike the Martian" saying, "Thou art God." Those for whom "God," is just a reason to argue over a label rather than a concept behind the label usually have no difficulty believing that there are things in this universe more powerful than they are; even those who believe they can learn to be more powerful can usually agree that other things are currently more powerful.

If they chose to treat other beliefs with compassion, respect, and an understanding that everyone has flaws, they can overlook the label or redefine the label and in doing so, stop arguing so much and treat each other with "love" - with or without the 'forbidden' g-word. If they do that, they'll be exhibiting "g-like" traits, whether they believe in entity(ies) or not.
BigBallinStalin wrote: A very small amount of people have learned how to extend their love to everyone, which is an impressive feat.
So impressive that it's something above normal (natural) human tendencies, something to revere. Dare I say it? God-like. Rather, God-love ;
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Re: Could someone please tell WBC that God is LOVE.

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WBC came to my school a little after thanksgiving break. They came in protest of a man killing his wife, and both of my friends which were his daughters. Im not going to show you the story on this, because i would not like to read it ever again. Its hard to think about them. What happened was that WBC argued that it was an act of Karma one the mother. God hates Fags. Thats what all their signs read. I went up to them and started asking questions. Supposedly the mother was having an elegid affair with another woman at the time. The father went crazy and killed her and the two daughters. The WBC said it was justice. He had a right to kill her and both my friends. She was gay and since God is a God of anger he came and killed them because it was justice against the mothers homosexual acts.
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How messed up is that? They came all the way to my town just for that. I am of Christian background. the bible does not say any of this anywhere at all. It only speaks of God as a God of love, and passion for his people. Why do they intereperit stuff like this. I dont understand it. They were outside our school FFing 2 days after everyone heard the news. What type of people is this? I told them that nowhere does the bible say God hates Gays. They said for that interpretation i was going to hell, because it was blasphemy against God. WBC needs to be put into a mental institution. This just is not right in any way, shape, or form. I cannot stand people who go out like this putting that God hates people.

God cannot stand SIN. He loves each and eyeryone of us the same. He loves us like we were his children. I dont care if you do not believe in him or not, but this message is wrongly interpreted. The media also only usually shows acts agaisnt people. With GOD HATES GAYS... and God hates this... Or it was Karma that they Died..... Whatever happened to God is a God of love, of peace, and of stregnth.
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AAFitz wrote: I do hope you're right, otherwise, Scientology actually is real and everyone but Tom is going to scientology hell, or purgatory, or planet neptune, or whatever they have set up.

Is it ok to mock scientology? Ill take my chances.
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parker4s wrote:WBC came to my school a little after thanksgiving break. They came in protest of a man killing his wife, and both of my friends which were his daughters. Im not going to show you the story on this, because i would not like to read it ever again. Its hard to think about them. What happened was that WBC argued that it was an act of Karma one the mother. God hates Fags. Thats what all their signs read. I went up to them and started asking questions. Supposedly the mother was having an elegid affair with another woman at the time. The father went crazy and killed her and the two daughters. The WBC said it was justice. He had a right to kill her and both my friends. She was gay and since God is a God of anger he came and killed them because it was justice against the mothers homosexual acts.
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How messed up is that? They came all the way to my town just for that. I am of Christian background. the bible does not say any of this anywhere at all. It only speaks of God as a God of love, and passion for his people. Why do they intereperit stuff like this. I dont understand it. They were outside our school FFing 2 days after everyone heard the news. What type of people is this? I told them that nowhere does the bible say God hates Gays. They said for that interpretation i was going to hell, because it was blasphemy against God. WBC needs to be put into a mental institution. This just is not right in any way, shape, or form. I cannot stand people who go out like this putting that God hates people.

God cannot stand SIN. He loves each and eyeryone of us the same. He loves us like we were his children. I dont care if you do not believe in him or not, but this message is wrongly interpreted. The media also only usually shows acts agaisnt people. With GOD HATES GAYS... and God hates this... Or it was Karma that they Died..... Whatever happened to God is a God of love, of peace, and of stregnth.
They did the same thing here in Laramie 11 years ago. Pissed off a LOT of locals, including those of us still in grade school (like me).
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Re: Could someone please tell WBC that God is LOVE.

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parker4s wrote:WBC came to my school a little after thanksgiving break. They came in protest of a man killing his wife, and both of my friends which were his daughters. Im not going to show you the story on this, because i would not like to read it ever again. Its hard to think about them. What happened was that WBC argued that it was an act of Karma one the mother. God hates Fags. Thats what all their signs read. I went up to them and started asking questions. Supposedly the mother was having an elegid affair with another woman at the time. The father went crazy and killed her and the two daughters. The WBC said it was justice. He had a right to kill her and both my friends. She was gay and since God is a God of anger he came and killed them because it was justice against the mothers homosexual acts.
,
How messed up is that? They came all the way to my town just for that. I am of Christian background. the bible does not say any of this anywhere at all. It only speaks of God as a God of love, and passion for his people. Why do they intereperit stuff like this. I dont understand it. They were outside our school FFing 2 days after everyone heard the news. What type of people is this? I told them that nowhere does the bible say God hates Gays. They said for that interpretation i was going to hell, because it was blasphemy against God. WBC needs to be put into a mental institution. This just is not right in any way, shape, or form. I cannot stand people who go out like this putting that God hates people.

God cannot stand SIN. He loves each and eyeryone of us the same. He loves us like we were his children. I dont care if you do not believe in him or not, but this message is wrongly interpreted. The media also only usually shows acts agaisnt people. With GOD HATES GAYS... and God hates this... Or it was Karma that they Died..... Whatever happened to God is a God of love, of peace, and of stregnth.

Good post. And you are right. The sad thing is, some people will hear the WBC message and assume that they speak for Christianity in general, which is so not the case. Just like people say Hitler, the KKK etc. were/are "Christian" so it must be bad. :-s



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Snorri1234 wrote:
AAFitz wrote: I do hope you're right, otherwise, Scientology actually is real and everyone but Tom is going to scientology hell, or purgatory, or planet neptune, or whatever they have set up.

Is it ok to mock scientology? Ill take my chances.
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