Re: Classic mafia Game thread [day 1] no deaths!
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:26 pm
Oh and UNVOTE NAXUS (I can do that right?) I begin to think that my justification for my vote was a bit shaky.
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The cop is a powerful role, but it becomes much more powerful when a Sane Cop is paired with a Pro-Town Doctor. When both these roles are know to be present, the cop can safely claim and reveal his investigations. This is commonly known as the Follow the Cop problem.
Follow the Cop
A strategy/habit of over-reliance on Cop results in finding Scum, rather than analyzing/playing the Day Game. Usually indicates either lazy players or a weak setup; methods to avoid it include Millers, Godfathers, Mafia Roleblockers, non-sane Cops, uncertain presence of Investigative Roles in the game setup, or removing Protective Roles that can defend an 'outed' Cop.
not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"UTAlan wrote:So the cop isn't allowed to claim?
Why isn't he allowed to? I don't want to argue with the mod, but you did post the setup of the roles in the signup thread. I mean, with all due respect vodean, you aren't a bad mod, but why would you tell everyone exactly how many of each roles there are? This is exactly the problem that will occur if everyone knows the setup. I mean, in the other large mafia games you've played, how many mods give out the setup right away? Just a friendly suggestion to hide the setup from us and make us try to figure out how many mafia, town power roles, manipulative roles, cult, third-party there are.vodean wrote:not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"UTAlan wrote:So the cop isn't allowed to claim?
Skittles! wrote:In this thread, the CC Mafia community helps you, a learner of the game, identify frequent terms and rules throughout the game. With the rules, they can be changed by the mod of their game if they wish, however these are the general rules followed by each mod.
Click on the 'spoiler' to see a few of the terms used on CC Mafia:Below is a list of the rules used through the different games on this forum. Mods can change these the way they wish their game to be played. Thank you Iliad for these.Spoiler
- FOS - Finger of Suspicion. Used to indicate that you find someone suspicious but are not going to vote them, for whatever reason (often because you are voting for someone even more suspicious).
- WIFOM - Wine Infront of me (Clicky).
- EBWOP - Edit By Way Of Post. Because actual editing of posts in mafia games is forbidden, the only way to "edit" a post which contains an error is to make another post containing the correction.
- IGMEOY - I've Got My Eye On You. Pretty self explanatory, it's like an FoS.
- lylo - Lynch-or-Lose. This normally happens when the mafia are just 1 day (or night) from winning the game, and it puts the town in a position of having to lynch someone to try and win the game.
- NK - Night Kill.
- OMGUS - Oh My God! You Suck!. Usually used in the context of an 'OMGUS vote' - i.e. a vote for someone purely on the basis that they are voting for you.
- BFSPP - Big Fat Stupid Poopey Pants! "Just like OMGUS, but more fun"
- QFT - Quoted For Truth. Said after a quotation to express agreement/approval.
- SK - Serial Killer. A role which allows someone to commit night kills (or NK).
- BWCS - Best Worst Case Scenario: a policy often taken when there is a claim of a vanilla townie (specifically arguing that lynching a townie who might be scum is the best worst case scenario).
- JOAT - Jack Of All Trades. A role which allows the player to choose from 4 different actions for the night.
- BW - Bandwagon. Voting for someone purely because other people are.
- Vig - Vigilante. A townie with the ability to preform a night kill.
- VC - Vote count.
- VT - Vanilla Townie. A townie with no other ability except to vote.
- Pulling a NES - To constantly get lynched on the first 'day' in every game you join.
- Pulling an Animorph(1) - To claim that you are helping the mafia.
- Pulling an Animorph(2) - To claim you are mafia, when you are in fact not.
- PGO - Paranoid Gun Owner. A role that automatically kills anyone who visits that player during the night.
- PR - Post Restriction. A certain way a player is required to post, as ordered by the game moderator.
- QFE - Quoted for Emphasis, or, Quoted for Evidence.
- ToI - Toe of Innocence.
- Role claiming - To claim a role, either that is actually yours or a different role. If you tell the truth no one should bother you. However if you're scum or have some other reason to hide your true role, you have to be very careful about your claim or someone will end up counter-claiming.
Next is a list of basic rules which new moderators should add into their game, so their players know what is unique with that game (e.g., how long day and night lasts.)Spoiler
Rules:
1.The moderator is always right. Do not try and argue with them. However we are all human and we all make mistakes. The moderator will try and fix any mistake he or she may have made.
2. Do not edit/delete previous posts. Whatever you say goes into historical record.
3. Do not quote any PM's you receive from the moderator or another player. You may say your name, role, associated abilities. This is a serious offence and could earn you a mod-kill, and/or a blacklist from future games.
4. The game will not be discussed outside this thread, unless your role specifically says you can.
5. All ‘votes’ and ‘unvotes’ must be in bold. If they are not, they will not be tallied. (I.E. Vote: Mandy). You must first unvote and then vote to change your vote from someone. Mods may change this according to their wishes.
6. Lynching requires a majority of the town vote, once the majority has been reached any unvotes will not be counted. The majority is half the player's alive +1.
7. You may vote ‘no lynch’ to end the day without a death.
8. Lengths of days depend on moderators. Usually they are indefinite until the game starts dragging and then the moderator enforces a deadline.
9. Lengths of nights depend on moderator. Try and send the actions earlier if possible, and save everyone time. It's a hassle for the moderator to pm everyone who hasn't sent in an action.
10. Once your death scene has been posted, it's over for you. You can no longer post anything related to the game. Whining is alright, **Voices from beyond the grave** are alright, as long as nothing of substance is revealed. This means you can post something like "Damn you mafia!" or "Oh well. Go town!" but you cannot post and add to the discussion. This is a serious offence.
11. Be attentive and active in the game. You will be replaced if you don't post. If something prevents you to participate for a long period of time, announce it here or via PM. Help everyone's enjoyment of the game by being active and sending your actions promptly.
12. You cannot talk at night. You can do joke votes like "zzzzzz" if you want but don't let it get out of hand. Different moderators have different tolerance levels.
13. If you have any questions or doubts, send a private message to the moderator and ask for help. It would be much worse to remain unsure about your role, mafia rules, whatever than to ask the moderator and then understand
14. This is the basic list of rules. Moderators will have their own specific changes or additions to rules. Make sure to check them
15. Have fun!Soon to be added: A FAQ section which will help newbs of the game learn more about the game.Spoiler
- To establish you are the moderator of the game, and no one can question what you do unless it's a mistake.
- How long the day lasts
- How long the night lasts
- Any special rules for the game
- The rules for the lynching
- No quoting PM's given by the moderator or any other player
- If the players can night talk
- If a lynched player can comment about the game after being lynched (normally a lynched player cannot)
- How often someone must post before they are replaced. Please include if they will get a prod before they are replaced.
- Remember to encourage them to have fun!
- Anything else the mod feels is appropriate.
Thank you for This random site, otherwise known as Spogg, which I stumbled upon. Thanks also to whoever has helped as well to add to the list.
yeah, that was kinda my bad, but in all rl games, we decide on the set-up, then choose a mod.safariguy5 wrote:Why isn't he allowed to? I don't want to argue with the mod, but you did post the setup of the roles in the signup thread. I mean, with all due respect vodean, you aren't a bad mod, but why would you tell everyone exactly how many of each roles there are? This is exactly the problem that will occur if everyone knows the setup. I mean, in the other large mafia games you've played, how many mods give out the setup right away? Just a friendly suggestion to hide the setup from us and make us try to figure out how many mafia, town power roles, manipulative roles, cult, third-party there are.vodean wrote:not unless he is pressured into it. you cant play "follow the cop"UTAlan wrote:So the cop isn't allowed to claim?
Back to the game, if the cop is modkilled, the town is probably going to lose unless they get very very lucky with the lynches. Besides, you're basically saying that the mass roleclaim tactic is also invalid. Really, in any mafia game, anyone should be able to claim whatever they want to whenever. But to keep this post on topic, does anyone have any leads? Or are we just going to play random voting until we force a lynch?
nopeUTAlan wrote:I say we mass claim. What's vodean gonna do, mod-kill us all?
Vote naxus. He just seemed the most hesitant to play Follow the Cop, even before the mod forbade it.naxus wrote:yeah but unless the doctors bulletproof then he'll be lynched right away