Gisele Bundchen = Typical Liberal

[comic boy]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

[jimboston]

Jim
Seriously I could simply say that every Conservative is a hypocrite and my point would have as much validity as yours, ie very little. Almost everybody shows a degree of hypocrisy , it is not regulated by political thought , however ones strongest opinions may well serve to highlight ones apparent level of hypocrisy.
A perfect recent example is the behaviour of the Vatican in regards to the child abuse scandals , I dont think the hypocrisy they displayed was any worse than any large corporation cover up but it appeared so bad because the church deals in morality. Years ago the Vatican was found to have links to organised crime and astoundingly to have a major stake in a company producing condoms. These acts would by any standards be considered the height of hypocrisy but because they were not immoral as such caused far less of a fuss.

1) You still haven't answered how "jimboston = hypocrit"... please explain.

2) Yes... the Catholic Church is one of the MOST HYPOCRITICAL ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET. If I hadn't lost my religion years ago, I would have abandoned the Church after this scandal came to light.

The Catholic Church's hypocracy does not negate Gisele's.

(Though I do think the Church's is must worse.)

[thegreekdog]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

For whatever it's worth, I thought your reply to jimboston (the one on this page) was excellent. It addressed his points, it wasn't snarky.

[thegreekdog]

A girl I work with is pregnant and she has decided she will not breastfeed (despite the encouragement of her doctors and nurses). Her reasons were (1) "I have to work" and (2) "I'm not going to pump milk every three hours when I'm at work because it cuts down on my productivity."

It's not empirical evidence, but I would say there are some cultural reasons that women don't breastfeed.

Yes, but those are, as you say "cultural reasons" and also "cultural excuses." I am pretty sure that it does not take rocket science to develop a work schedule that does not "cut down on productivity." (Believe me that those companies that are pushing their employees to stop smoking and taking smoking breaks are not doing it because they want to regain "productivity.")

On the other hand, I'be heard anecdotal evidence that the pump "sucks" (no pun intended). So I can see people making excuses not to use it.

I'm also pretty sure that with minor modifications and a genuine desire to use a superior product it could easily be made not to suck.

Let's be honest, if you (and everyone else) can read this article without getting either prudish or acting like Beavis and Butthead, the world would be one step closer to a real cultural revolution.

Actually I was talking about something that could get me castrated - namely that women have to and want to work instead of be mothers. I'm not making a value judgment here, I'm just saying that 50 years ago this would not have been an issue (whether good or bad).

[jimboston]

Obviously Gisele is hypocritical. Worthy of a sidenote only because she's hot. Hypocrites abound amongst the Conservatives and Liberals because bandwagons tend to collect hypocrites. Go figure.


Honibaz

because she's hot and semi-famous -> Which is the only reason it was on the radio this morning.

[jimboston]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

I never made any remarks about your dad... unless your dad is Tom Brady.

So why call me hypocritical?

Please explain.

[comic boy]

Jim
Seriously I could simply say that every Conservative is a hypocrite and my point would have as much validity as yours, ie very little. Almost everybody shows a degree of hypocrisy , it is not regulated by political thought , however ones strongest opinions may well serve to highlight ones apparent level of hypocrisy.
A perfect recent example is the behaviour of the Vatican in regards to the child abuse scandals , I dont think the hypocrisy they displayed was any worse than any large corporation cover up but it appeared so bad because the church deals in morality. Years ago the Vatican was found to have links to organised crime and astoundingly to have a major stake in a company producing condoms. These acts would by any standards be considered the height of hypocrisy but because they were not immoral as such caused far less of a fuss.

1) You still haven't answered how "jimboston = hypocrit"... please explain.

2) Yes... the Catholic Church is one of the MOST HYPOCRITICAL ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET. If I hadn't lost my religion years ago, I would have abandoned the Church after this scandal came to light.

The Catholic Church's hypocracy does not negate Gisele's.

(Though I do think the Church's is must worse.)

Jimboston = hypocrite
Is true in the sense that we are all hypocrites to some degree, what isn't true is that being a Liberal makes one more of a hypocrite any more than say living in Boston does.

[comic boy]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

I never made any remarks about your dad... unless your dad is Tom Brady.

So why call me hypocritical?

Please explain.

I wasn't talking about you Jim , it was Danger Boy I was refering to.

[jimboston]

Jimboston = hypocrite
Is true in the sense that we are all hypocrites to some degree, what isn't true is that being a Liberal makes one more of a hypocrite any more than say living in Boston does.

COP OUT

1) Liberals are more hypocritical by nature... it's a defensible position. I have given two examples already.

2) Bostonian's are in general more Liberal than the rest of the country... so based on this you might think being from Boston makes one as much of a hypocrit as being Liberal.

However there is a flaw in your Logic... as not all Bostonians are Liberals. Us that aren't overcompensate for the Liberals by being absolutely non-hypocritical.

As I said before... being a hypocrit is like (to me) one of the worst things to be in the world. (One of the worst... not THE worst.) So you have insulted me, and I therefore must challenge you to a duel.

[comic boy]

Actually I was refering to the original Boston in Lincolnshire, never mind we can still meet up for a dual , loser buys the beer ok.
www.whitehartboston.com/

[jimboston]

Actually I was refering to the original Boston in Lincolnshire, never mind we can still meet up for a dual , loser buys the beer ok.
http://www.whitehartboston.com/

The original is not always the best.

The loser can die on the street.

[bradleybadly]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

This is just absolute 100% bullshit.

You were the one who threw out the hypocrite label. You only made a decent point when both DB and Barunt called you on it. Pretty pathetic how you try to play the game of how noble you are defending your dad after being taken to task for calling someone else a name.

Just in case you try to hide behind how this offended you, I was just having some fun. After all, this is just a forum for a game site.

[comic boy]

Chill out BK old boy
You make a fair point about my snide remarks, they were cheap though so were his remarks about my dad which were unprovoked and also out of order. If he wants to stir up shit then I am happy to respond , what I wrote reflects on his pious pomposity rather than his religion per se. Incidently I prefer dialogue face to face in real life situations, sometimes it may be intelligent , this forum is just for fun......have you never used it thus

This is just absolute 100% bullshit.

You were the one who threw out the hypocrite label. You only made a decent point when both DB and Barunt called you on it. Pretty pathetic how you try to play the game of how noble you are defending your dad after being taken to task for calling someone else a name.

Just in case you try to hide behind how this offended you, I was just having some fun. After all, this is just a forum for gamers.

Not offended at all , enjoy the irony in fact, far from typical though of the average fascist right !

[InkL0sed]

hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocrisy

How can a belief system inherently be hypocritical?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. Either you believe something or you don't.

[thegreekdog]

I would say Ms. Bundchen is hypocritical. I'm not sure if she's liberal. But I've met a whole lot of hypocritical liberals. And I've met a whole lot of hypocritical conservatives.

[InkL0sed]

I would say Ms. Bundchen is hypocritical. I'm not sure if she's liberal. But I've met a whole lot of hypocritical liberals. And I've met a whole lot of hypocritical conservatives.

But that of course is irrelevant when discussing whether liberalism is inherently hypocritical.

[b.k. barunt]

1) Liberals are more hypocritical by nature... it's a defensible position. I have given two examples already.

Bullshit.

I'm neither a Lib nor a Con - i take things issue by issue. Being neither Lib nor Con i think that i can render an objective opinion on this. To suggest that one side is more hypocritical than the other is ludicrous.


Honibaz

[Uncle Death]

This thread reminds me that you can't discuss, argue, or debate with the unreasonable. In this case not only unreasonable but ignorant or possibly intellectually challenged.

By the way Tom Brady is a Republican and from California. His wife is from Brazil. The assumptions made are pretty stupid in this thread.

[thegreekdog]

I would say Ms. Bundchen is hypocritical. I'm not sure if she's liberal. But I've met a whole lot of hypocritical liberals. And I've met a whole lot of hypocritical conservatives.

But that of course is irrelevant when discussing whether liberalism is inherently hypocritical.

Well, sort of. Maybe it's because I lean towards the right on a lot of issues, but there are a whole lot of liberal-type politicians who do a lot of conservative-type things. My biggest example is something I stole from someone else (an espn.com writer of all people) - namely that Democrats tend to think that the rich don't contribute enough in tax dollars; the writer said that one could voluntarily pay more in taxes than he or she is required to pay. His point being that Democrat politicians tend to be rich people and tend to be the type of rich people who the politicians want to pay more taxes, so why don't they voluntarily pay more?

On the other hand, Republican politicians tend to speak out against pork barrell spending, but they won't hesitate to get a pork barrell project for one of their own states.

[john9blue]

if this is the thread where we post examples of liberal hypocrisy, then sign me up, i predict it will become very large indeed

[Iliad]

Really? Cause I've found that it's usually the conservatives who want to enforce their own set of morals on the rest of us. Then again I'll expect there will be hypocrites on both political sides, yet no proof has been shown yet. But hey apparently when you're running to smear the opposition you don't even have to actually even attempt to prove they did anything wrong, just smear someone else and then claim they're with the opposition.

[Army of GOD]

jim, what are you talking about? I'm sure there is a hypocritical conservative for every hypocritical liberal in the U.S. If you disagree, then someone else can do the reserach because I'm too lazy .

Secondly, you're taking a celebrity's quote. I WATCH VH1 (not proud of it though). I KNOW HOW STUPID CELEBRITIES ARE. BRITTNEY SPEARS SAYS SHE THOUGHT TOKYO WAS IN AFRICA (I think). WHY DO YOU THINK ANYONE CARES ABOUT TOM BRADY'S SMOKING HOT WIFE.

[ViperOverLord]

Gisele Bundchen, super-model and wife of the NFL's best Quarterback (Tom Brady), is demostrating the typical Liberal mindset.


1) Nanny State - She believes there 'should be a worldwide law' requiring mothers to breastfeed their babies for at least six months.

2) Hypocritical -It's been reported that she breastfed her own baby, Benjamin, for less than a month... because she was (paraphrasing) 'afraid of being seen/photographed in public breastfeeding.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... ds-newsxml



As an aside, I would be happy to breastfeed with Gisele.

She's an f-ing idiot. In that article she also bragged about giving natural birth but then said she medicated for 2 weeks to do it. I stopped reading after that. The Guardian shouldn't have done the Q and A. Just do the spread and save her from her own idiocy.

[Frigidus]

Thinking all liberals are hypocrites doesn't make you a hypocrite. It does, however, make you a colossal douche.

[Queen_Herpes]

I think the problem here is that someone thinks Tom Brady is the NFL's best quarterback.