Conquer Club

It seems like you guys feel the same things about this that I feel about the WTC Mosque ...

There was a Mosque in the WTC?

I think it's a fantastic idea. And besides, it's the religion of peace so what could go wrong?

2dimes wrote:I like most people was not happy about Planes crashing into buildings on our safe plot of dirt.

It pisses me off to think that some moron would burn books and try to get it to happen again! Please leave the Island.

Well, I agree that burning the books is stupid. Mostly however, because it is against the entire teaching of his chosen religion, and therefore hypocritical to the point of insanity. I do however respect his right to speak his opinion of another religion, but more importantly, respect his right to speak it, even if it does possibly include some risk. If we were to somehow restrict the speaking of an opinion because that opinion was deemed dangerous, there would never be a freedom of speech. The fact that there may be consequences of said speech is the exact reason for the freedom in the first place.

Im hardly advocating someone creating an international incident, and that in some cases some things can not be allowed. But some crazies who have lost their way making a hypocritical fireball fueled by the evil of their own souls is certainly not one of them. If this somehow initiates a response from others, there is no doubt those others would have acted anyways, because anyone actually getting mad at this kind of display is similarly crazy in the first place, and this book burning would only be an excuse, not an actual reason.

Granted, we invaded two entire countries based on the acts of a relatively small number of crazy people ourselves.

AAFitz wrote: Granted, we invaded two entire countries based on the acts of a relatively small number of crazy people ourselves.

Crazy leaders of crazy people..

AA; I agree with everything but this.

AAFitz wrote:Well, I agree that burning the books is stupid. Mostly however, because it is against the entire teaching of his chosen religion, and therefore hypocritical to the point of insanity.

Because it's the only redeeming quality of the concept purely from an entertainment perspective.

And even though he's only providing the crazys with an excuse not a reason. I don't think they need one and they might have not bothered until that excuse finally convinced them. "Now we have to."

Night Strike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?

Those Muslims who burn bibles are either fanatics or simply ignorant , so are those who support such actions . If a Christian group wishes to mimic that behaviour then they should expect to be held in equal contempt , as of course should their own supporters.

Us Christians need to learn how to threaten violence when freedom of expression gets in our way. Maybe then we'd be taken more seriously!

GabonX wrote:

AAFitz wrote: Granted, we invaded two entire countries based on the acts of a relatively small number of crazy people ourselves.

Crazy leaders of crazy people..

Sanity is in the eye of the beholder.

Good job, guys. All this stink over some guy who should've been indefinitely put on "hold" in our minds. Eventually, they hang up.

john9blue wrote:Us Christians need to learn how to threaten violence when freedom of expression gets in our way. Maybe then we'd be taken more seriously!

Whats ironic, is that it is probably those who do not believe in any God, that defend the right of those to worship any God. It seems those that have chosen and actually believe, only believe in the right to believe in that single God or religion.

Many Christions have indeed inflicted and threatened violence for many reasons and there is no doubt they will continue to do so for a very long time.

BigBallinStalin wrote:Good job, guys. All this stink over some guy who should've been indefinitely put on "hold" in our minds. Eventually, they hang up.

I would hardly call it a stink. More of a comical topic to discuss.

The only part of this that is not comical is the correlation to prewar Germany, and the hatred of Jews that permeated German society slowly but surely and gave rise to the Nazis. They also started by burning books of a religion they disagreed with.

It is relative. The only difference between this and a flag burning, or the burning of an effigy, is the level of psychosis of those that will be offended.

It's simply an acid test of the purity of their tolerance. I, for one, wont be surprised at the results.

BigBallinStalin wrote:Good job, guys. All this stink over some guy who should've been indefinitely put on "hold" in our minds. Eventually, they hang up.

Terry, you've been reading this?

I suggest you have a great artist draw the prophet on your nut sack and smash it with a hammer. That would show them!

2dimes wrote:AA; I agree with everything but this.

AAFitz wrote:Well, I agree that burning the books is stupid. Mostly however, because it is against the entire teaching of his chosen religion, and therefore hypocritical to the point of insanity.

Because it's the only redeeming quality of the concept purely from an entertainment perspective.

And even though he's only providing the crazys with an excuse not a reason. I don't think they need one and they might have not bothered until that excuse finally convinced them. "Now we have to."

Well Im hardly advocating the idea and only suggesting they have their right.

People have the right to do quite a number of things that will invariably get them into trouble or worse. It may make them insanely stupid, but hardly against the law.

HapSmo19 wrote:The only difference between this and a flag burning, or the burning of an effigy, is the level of psychosis of those that will be offended.

It's simply an acid test of the purity of their tolerance. I, for one, wont be surprised at the results.

Absolutely astonishing.

GabonX wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?

Congratulations for continuing to stereotype an entire religion.

That's not stereotyping brother..

That's statement of facts coupled with a very legitimate question.

No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.

What about that abortion doctor that was killed by a Christian? Should I say "Why do all Christians make threats and violence whenever someone is supporting abortion"?

Army of GOD wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?

Congratulations for continuing to stereotype an entire religion.

That's not stereotyping brother..

That's statement of facts coupled with a very legitimate question.

No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.

What about that abortion doctor that was killed by a Christian? Should I say "Why do all Christians make threats and violence whenever someone is supporting abortion"?

Of course it is and obviously so. It borders on possibly being against the bigotry guidelines of CC in fact.

Nightstrike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles...

He is a racist. He simply enjoys confirming it on a regular basis. No doubt he will eventually go too far and embarrass all of Team CC in doing so. In my opinion he just has. In any case, I hope he truly believes what he wrote because on my signature its viewable 7500 times, unless of course its deemed racist and unfit for the CC forums, as I personally think it should be.

Bloody Christians, burning Bibles...do you ever hear the church leaders speaking out?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2009/10/22/pa ... ing-event/

I laugh, I lose.

I lost at "On Halloween night, Grizzard and the 14 members of the Amazing Grace Baptist Church"

OH NOES! NOT ALL 14 MEMBERS!!!!

Army of GOD wrote:I laugh, I lose.

I lost at "On Halloween night, Grizzard and the 14 members of the Amazing Grace Baptist Church"

OH NOES! NOT ALL 14 MEMBERS!!!!

Yeah, but if they're right and the other six and a half billion people are wrong, you're in deep doo-doo.

heavycola wrote:

HapSmo19 wrote:The only difference between this and a flag burning, or the burning of an effigy, is the level of psychosis of those that will be offended.

It's simply an acid test of the purity of their tolerance. I, for one, wont be surprised at the results.

Absolutely astonishing.

OK. What if they just put a really, really bad crease in the binding? Do you still think anyone would get blown up?

AAFitz wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

GabonX wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

Night Strike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?

Congratulations for continuing to stereotype an entire religion.

That's not stereotyping brother..

That's statement of facts coupled with a very legitimate question.

No, see, it is stereotyping because he said "Why do Muslims". He in no way tried to declare a difference between the radical terrorists and the every day normal Muslims.

What about that abortion doctor that was killed by a Christian? Should I say "Why do all Christians make threats and violence whenever someone is supporting abortion"?

Of course it is and obviously so. It borders on possibly being against the bigotry guidelines of CC in fact.

Nightstrike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles...

He is a racist. He simply enjoys confirming it on a regular basis. No doubt he will eventually go too far and embarrass all of Team CC in doing so. In my opinion he just has. In any case, I hope he truly believes what he wrote because on my signature its viewable 7500 times, unless of course its deemed racist and unfit for the CC forums, as I personally think it should be.

Islam is a religion, not a race, so there is no "confirming racism" in my post.

jonesthecurl wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:I laugh, I lose.

I lost at "On Halloween night, Grizzard and the 14 members of the Amazing Grace Baptist Church"

OH NOES! NOT ALL 14 MEMBERS!!!!

Yeah, but if they're right and the other six and a half billion people are wrong, you're in deep doo-doo.

At least Hell would contain all of the people that matter in the world.

Night Strike wrote:Why do Muslims make threats and violence whenever they are offended by an action such as depicting Muhammed or burning their bibles yet some countries do these same things toward Christianity on a frequent basis? If it's okay for Iranians to burn the bible and crosses, why isn't it ok for others to burn the koran?

I shouldn't need to instruct you on how Christianity works, given that I'm not one -
but apparently I do, since you don't seem to get it.

With Jesus, people were supposed to have moved on from "an eye for an eye" to "turn the other cheek".

And it is absolutely not a defense for a Christian to say "Me? You think that's bad? Look at what he's doing!"
- or don't you remember the bit about removing the beam from your own eye?