Jesse, Bad Boy: a discussion

[XenHu]

^^^^^^^


Exception.. Not the norm..



-X

[millej11]

and won't ever have a chance at being the norm when you Utopian Socialist bastards pity the poor and punish the hard working.

[XenHu]

and won't ever have a chance at being the norm when you Eutopian Socialist bastards pity the poor and punish the hard working.

HaHa...


Nice...


You know, I'm not American, so my caring for you country only goes so far...

But the way it is now, it's fucked up..

It needs to be changed at I applaud those who have the balls to do it!



-X

[everywhere116]

^^^^^^^


Exception.. Not the norm..



-X

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

If the government has taken enough money from you so that you are living in poverty, you either:
A: Suck at life
B: Are very unintelligent, resulting in that you suck at life.
C: Can't manage your own funds, the result of being very unintelligent. Which your klan seems to be supporting. Hey everyone, just be poor and waste your money, these guys will bail you out.

Fighting for a the rights of people who don't know enough to invest in private accounts and/or are too lazy to do so is a huge waste of time and life. And we all know that time is money, so quit wasting money.

I pity you and your attempts at inevitable failure.

For a moment, I thought you would post something intelligent.

Then, you brought me back to reality.

[XenHu]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

Hence the government 'helps' you..


Fool.. Your blind faith in the White House will put you on the chopping block someday.. When you step out of line and the government decides to 'help' you die...

-X

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

^^^^^^^


Exception.. Not the norm..



-X

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

Wut?

[XenHu]

You referring to me?

or everywhere?

-X

[everywhere116]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

I don't understand where he gets off telling Anarchists that we depend on the government.

We loath government.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

[everywhere116]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

[millej11]

If the government has taken enough money from you so that you are living in poverty, you either:
A: Suck at life
B: Are very unintelligent, resulting in that you suck at life.
C: Can't manage your own funds, the result of being very unintelligent. Which your klan seems to be supporting. Hey everyone, just be poor and waste your money, these guys will bail you out.

Fighting for a the rights of people who don't know enough to invest in private accounts and/or are too lazy to do so is a huge waste of time and life. And we all know that time is money, so quit wasting money.

I pity you and your attempts at inevitable failure.

For a moment, I thought you would post something intelligent.

Then, you brought me back to reality.

this post is just oozing with intelligence

[Anarkistsdream]

If the government has taken enough money from you so that you are living in poverty, you either:
A: Suck at life
B: Are very unintelligent, resulting in that you suck at life.
C: Can't manage your own funds, the result of being very unintelligent. Which your klan seems to be supporting. Hey everyone, just be poor and waste your money, these guys will bail you out.

Fighting for a the rights of people who don't know enough to invest in private accounts and/or are too lazy to do so is a huge waste of time and life. And we all know that time is money, so quit wasting money.

I pity you and your attempts at inevitable failure.

For a moment, I thought you would post something intelligent.

Then, you brought me back to reality.

this post is just oozing with intelligence

No way, your mom....

Huh-uh... Your mom!!

No way!!!

Way!!!


Quit pissing in each others shoes, boys, and just drink up!

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

Did you read a word that I just wrote? Capitalism can only be achieved if the government is eliminated at total. Right now, we have the government taxing (read:extorting) us and redistributing capital via social welfare and (more importantly in the face of economic defintion) corporate welfare.

Corporations are government enforced constructs, taking money from the government in order to give back money to the government. This not only stagnates competition (a necessity in Capitalism), but it damages the economy of a long period of time. We can see this daily in the amount of subsidization and loans the government hands out to big businesses.

On the other hand, Keynesian economics advocates both mercantilism (modernly called Corporatism or Protectionism) and socialism for a balanced economy. The over all jist is for the government to invest in the private sector at the expense of the taxpayer. We can see this in our taxation.

Thus, we can conclude that America does not function on Capitalism, but rather instead a state run economic system, the Corporatist-Keynesian economics.

[millej11]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynesian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

No, we relied on the keynesian structure from WWII until Reagan set us straight. The government still pokes their head in once in a while, only to f*ck shit up though.[/b]

[Anarkistsdream]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

Did you read a word that I just wrote? Capitalism can only be achieved if the government is eliminated at total. Right now, we have the government taxing (read:extorting) us and redistributing capital via social welfare and (more importantly in the face of economic defintion) corporate welfare.

Corporations are government enforced constructs, taking money from the government in order to give back money to the government. This not only stagnates competition (a necessity in Capitalism), but it damages the economy of a long period of time. We can see this daily in the amount of subsidization and loans the government hands out to big businesses.

On the other hand, Keynesian economics advocates both mercantilism (modernly called Corporatism or Protectionism) and socialism for a balanced economy. The over all jist is for the government to invest in the private sector at the expense of the taxpayer. We can see this in our taxation.

Thus, we can conclude that America does not function on Capitalism, but rather instead a state run economic system, the Corporatist-Keynesian economics.

What do you do for a living, man? You are damn well-spoken.

[millej11]

And if it weren't for you damn liberals, we wouldn't have the nuisance of the government breathing down our necks around every corner.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

Did you read a word that I just wrote? Capitalism can only be achieved if the government is eliminated at total. Right now, we have the government taxing (read:extorting) us and redistributing capital via social welfare and (more importantly in the face of economic defintion) corporate welfare.

Corporations are government enforced constructs, taking money from the government in order to give back money to the government. This not only stagnates competition (a necessity in Capitalism), but it damages the economy of a long period of time. We can see this daily in the amount of subsidization and loans the government hands out to big businesses.

On the other hand, Keynesian economics advocates both mercantilism (modernly called Corporatism or Protectionism) and socialism for a balanced economy. The over all jist is for the government to invest in the private sector at the expense of the taxpayer. We can see this in our taxation.

Thus, we can conclude that America does not function on Capitalism, but rather instead a state run economic system, the Corporatist-Keynesian economics.

What do you do for a living, man? You are damn well-spoken.

I am an Archivist for the Incorporated City of New York, most recently. Essentially, I need to know the history of the City of New York, am consulted when ever a place tries to get "Historical Significance" stamped on it, and sit at a desk all day long filling out paper work.

Before that, I was a teacher on Long Island, and before that I was a sailor in the United States Navy.

[everywhere116]

Liberal...believes no one can achieve without the help of the governent...not the norm...

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

Did you read a word that I just wrote? Capitalism can only be achieved if the government is eliminated at total. Right now, we have the government taxing (read:extorting) us and redistributing capital via social welfare and (more importantly in the face of economic defintion) corporate welfare.

Corporations are government enforced constructs, taking money from the government in order to give back money to the government. This not only stagnates competition (a necessity in Capitalism), but it damages the economy of a long period of time. We can see this daily in the amount of subsidization and loans the government hands out to big businesses.

On the other hand, Keynesian economics advocates both mercantilism (modernly called Corporatism or Protectionism) and socialism for a balanced economy. The over all jist is for the government to invest in the private sector at the expense of the taxpayer. We can see this in our taxation.

Thus, we can conclude that America does not function on Capitalism, but rather instead a state run economic system, the Corporatist-Keynesian economics.

Before I give a response, let me ask you. Are you a liberal or a conservative?

[millej11]

Before I give a response, let me ask you. Are you a liberal or a conservative?

I'm going to go ahead and say he's neither. He's obviously trying to make a difference for the minority of America. All wasted souls do.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

You can only achieve what your government ALLOWS you to achieve..

This is called "communism." We live in a capitalist society, where the government doesn't meddle with companies, or "allow" them to succeed as you assume.

LOL. Are you kidding?

America relies on a corporatist-keynsian economic structure, which practically maximizes and establishes government control over the economy and businesses.

We are far from Capitalist.

How do you figure?

Did you read a word that I just wrote? Capitalism can only be achieved if the government is eliminated at total. Right now, we have the government taxing (read:extorting) us and redistributing capital via social welfare and (more importantly in the face of economic defintion) corporate welfare.

Corporations are government enforced constructs, taking money from the government in order to give back money to the government. This not only stagnates competition (a necessity in Capitalism), but it damages the economy of a long period of time. We can see this daily in the amount of subsidization and loans the government hands out to big businesses.

On the other hand, Keynesian economics advocates both mercantilism (modernly called Corporatism or Protectionism) and socialism for a balanced economy. The over all jist is for the government to invest in the private sector at the expense of the taxpayer. We can see this in our taxation.

Thus, we can conclude that America does not function on Capitalism, but rather instead a state run economic system, the Corporatist-Keynesian economics.

Before I give a response, let me ask you. Are you a liberal or a conservative?

Neither. In fact, very few definitions narrow down my views to the point of a single word.

Although, I take from the following ideals, so draw from that what you will:

Classic Liberal/Rothbardian-Objectivist/Social Liberal/Economic Conservative/Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist

[Guiscard]

My friend in highschool came from the poorest family in the town. On top of that, his house was burned down once and severely damaged in a tornado. He ended up being the valedictorian and got a full ride to one of the top colleges in the state.

no way out huh

Lets just throw money on them so that never have to work hard for what they want.

I new there'd be a succes story. Yeh many people do make a success of themselves, but again yes that is the exception to the norm, at least in the UK. If you are born in some areas theres really no hope of getting out of them, especially if you have a child yourself.

[Jesse, Bad Boy]

My friend in highschool came from the poorest family in the town. On top of that, his house was burned down once and severely damaged in a tornado. He ended up being the valedictorian and got a full ride to one of the top colleges in the state.

no way out huh

Lets just throw money on them so that never have to work hard for what they want.

I new there'd be a succes story. Yeh many people do make a success of themselves, but again yes that is the exception to the norm, at least in the UK. If you are born in some areas theres really no hope of getting out of them, especially if you have a child yourself.

What gets me about his particular appeal to anecdote is that his friends house burnt down and was struck down by a tornado, seemingly in the same night. Talk about a stroke of bad luck.

[millej11]

No, he was in 9th grade when there was the fire. The tornado hit the second semester of his senior year. He comes from a family of 5 kids, so even though he's my friend, i'll admit that major stupidity was the factor. That and one parent had a part time job.