[Rules] Don't Award Points to Deadbeat / Kicked Partners

yossarian87 · Post by **yossarian87** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:47 pm

No, deadbeats on the losing team should still lose points, but deadbeats on the winning team should not gain points.

The idea is to punish the deadbeats but not their partners and opponents.

rayjret · Post by **rayjret** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:16 pm

Also they should lose more points then those that play it right.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:40 pm

kc-jake wrote: I think that your idea will only complicate the points system, which is designed to have a points total of (number of players) * 1000 at all times.

That's true to a degree, but some points are lost. When a team wins an odd number of points, I believe 1 is subtracted each time so the score divides evenly. Over all the team games played, that probably adds up to a fair amount of points lost, but its close to players*1000

maniacmath17 · Post by **maniacmath17** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:15 pm

sully800 wrote:
kc-jake wrote: I think that your idea will only complicate the points system, which is designed to have a points total of (number of players) * 1000 at all times.
That's true to a degree, but some points are lost. When a team wins an odd number of points, I believe 1 is subtracted each time so the score divides evenly. Over all the team games played, that probably adds up to a fair amount of points lost, but its close to players*1000

It's no where close to players * 1000. There are so many people who have joined the site, deadbeated a game, and never returned. If I had to take a guess, I'd say the points are about players * 1150

Kayla · Post by **Kayla** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:53 pm

if my partner totally quits on me and never plays a turn, (doubles game of course), why does he get half the points still?

spiesr · Post by **spiesr** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:54 pm

He still won. (And may have been helpful by deadbeating)

Kayla · Post by **Kayla** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:57 pm

was not helpful because the other team was just on me.... they never played, they didn't "win", they deserve no points for not playing

happysadfun · Post by **happysadfun** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:58 pm

Ah, but you inherited their territories.

Kayla · Post by **Kayla** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:01 pm

not the point, they never played, i did all the work, they deserve nothing

A Mans Part · Post by **A Mans Part** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:21 pm

why do you care? The only option is you get the same points and the deadbeat gets 0. You should NOT get double points.

colin cool · Post by **colin cool** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:44 pm

i think if ur teammate deadbeats u should get there points because u work ur ass of and they get half of the points u earned

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:02 pm

You. Your.

And I agree.

nyg5680 · Post by **nyg5680** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:08 pm

your right but u also get all their territrys

jaydog · Post by **jaydog** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:58 am

which is total bullshit

KidTwist · Post by **KidTwist** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:38 am

How many times do we have to address this all over again?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:47 am

jaydog wrote:which is total bullshit

I'm assuming thast in response to them getting their territories..

and I agree... it increases strategic deadbeating and most of the time gives an advantage to someone who knows how to play risk.

stache hag · Post by **stache hag** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:07 am

Play doubles with people you know. Then your partner won't deadbeat.

Jord · Post by **Jord** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:21 am

Is there any chance we can do anything about the points awarded for team games? can they be shared only by the participating members of that team.

Triples my 2 partners deadbeated and were kicked out = 47 points each

They are all mine and i dont want to share them

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=146808

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:10 am

Damn, thats a good win!

I have mixed feelings about this idea though, I like it because you did in fact do all the work and should get all the points. Deadbeats suck, and they shouldn't be rewarded.

But.... they did give you their armies when they deadbeated and that was what helped you win. So technically, you would have lost if you hadn't gotten those territories and then you would have lost points instead of gaining 47.

I think this idea has already been rejected though.

elmago79 · Post by **elmago79** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:13 am

Still, deadbeats could receive no points for wining a team game.

The case could be made that you could deadbeat because of strategic reasons... But this seems like very bad sportsmanship.

spiesr · Post by **spiesr** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:48 am

If one person gets all the points people will abuse it possibly by deadbeating when they are about to win...

RobinJ · Post by **RobinJ** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:19 am

Nah, I'm all for it.

Blumoki · Post by **Blumoki** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:00 pm

spiesr wrote:If one person gets all the points people will abuse it possibly by deadbeating when they are about to win...

agreed, but the deadbeaters shouldn't get them either.

pharaoh · Post by **pharaoh** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:07 pm

I suggest that if a partner in a doubles or triples match is eliminated due to three missed turns they should then forfeit any points gained if the remaining partner(s) win the game. I just defeated a colonel, a lieutenant, and two sergeants after my deadbeat partner left me high and dry and handicapped in the beginning of the game, and after I did all of the hard work to win, he gets 57 points just the same as I. I don't believe that is fair, and propose that it be fixed.

-Pharaoh

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:33 pm

In game # 180305, my partner deadbeated. The game was a six person doubles game. I somehow managed to win, despite the four others were against me. The Deadbeating didn't help much, since he was all but eliminated, so I got very few of his men from it. The point is, he got 30 pts for the win as well as I. That is stupid. He didn't take one turn. I did all the work, I should get all the pts. Even if your deadbeat partner leaves you tons of men, they shouldn't get a point, if they deadbeat. They shouldn't lose any either. I propose that if your partner deadbeats in a Doubles game, and you win, you get ALL of the points awarded, and in a triples game, the deadbeat gets nothing, while the pts are split between the other two, if they won. This way a person is rewarded for winning on their own, while the deadbeat isn't rewarded, or even punished. You should NOT be rewarded for deadbeating if your partner wins.

[Rules] Don't Award Points to Deadbeat / Kicked Partners

Your right

Partner gets points for deadbeating?

deadbeats in team games

Points for Deadbeats

Agreed

shared points with deadbeat doubles partners

Deadbeat Partners