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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:37 pm
by flashleg8
Genghis Khant wrote:Here's a bit of a twist to this topic; a film which most people hate, because it
is crap, but which I love is The Postman. A film so rubbish, so buttock clenchingly piss poor, that it transcends all its intended seriousness and becomes a comedy.
It's possibly the worst film I've ever seen, and the first 50 minutes or so is a total waste of time. Fast forward it till the bit where a man gets eaten by a lion, that's my advice.
The acting really sucks. If Keanu Reeves was in this movie he'd steal the show. Top Petty is in it for christ's sake, "You're the
postman? I've heard of you. Man,
you're famous." The plot and the script are terrible and the premise - Kevin Costner rebuilds the United States from its post apocalyptic ashes by delivering letters - is totally absurd. It had a huge budget, millions of dollars, filmed with armies of extras (some of them in lead roles
), impressive panoramic helicopter shots, explosions, pitched battles, hundreds of horses, a true epic. It's over the top, it's Hollywood turned up to 11. It's so bad, and yet it's so good.
Cheesier than a ripe camembert, there's just one question you have to ask yourself, "how many letters can a dead postman deliver?"
That cheesy bit where the kid holds out the letter and Costner rides back to get it made me physically sick.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:01 pm
by Genghis Khant
flashleg8 wrote:Genghis Khant wrote:Here's a bit of a twist to this topic; a film which most people hate, because it
is crap, but which I love is The Postman. A film so rubbish, so buttock clenchingly piss poor, that it transcends all its intended seriousness and becomes a comedy.
It's possibly the worst film I've ever seen, and the first 50 minutes or so is a total waste of time. Fast forward it till the bit where a man gets eaten by a lion, that's my advice.
The acting really sucks. If Keanu Reeves was in this movie he'd steal the show. Top Petty is in it for christ's sake, "You're the
postman? I've heard of you. Man,
you're famous." The plot and the script are terrible and the premise - Kevin Costner rebuilds the United States from its post apocalyptic ashes by delivering letters - is totally absurd. It had a huge budget, millions of dollars, filmed with armies of extras (some of them in lead roles
), impressive panoramic helicopter shots, explosions, pitched battles, hundreds of horses, a true epic. It's over the top, it's Hollywood turned up to 11. It's so bad, and yet it's so good.
Cheesier than a ripe camembert, there's just one question you have to ask yourself, "how many letters can a dead postman deliver?"
That cheesy bit where the kid holds out the letter and Costner rides back to get it made me physically sick.
That's one of my favourite bits
It goes into slow motion and all
Like I said, it's hollywood all the way up to 11!
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:12 pm
by Hitman079
Click
iono about you guys, some said it made them cry, but i think mixing drama/sadness/whatever genre + comedy is a bad mix.
The Covenant
God, it was terrible.
Norbit
some stars will never grow up. i mean, murphy must be almost 50.
Star Wars III
wasn't as good as the others.. lucas should never have gone past the original trilogy
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:15 pm
by vtmarik
Hitman079 wrote:Star Wars III
wasn't as good as the others.. lucas should never have gone past the original trilogy
Some Star Wars purists may want my head on a pike for this, but I really liked Revenge of the Sith.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:19 pm
by RenegadePaddy
Brave New World - a single good chapter, the rest is just bollocks
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:22 pm
by vtmarik
RenegadePaddy wrote:Brave New World - a single good chapter, the rest is just bollocks
And the movie adaptation left much to be desired. But then again I love dystopia, so I really dug that book. Plus Huxley is awesome.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:22 pm
by flashleg8
RenegadePaddy wrote:Brave New World - a single good chapter, the rest is just bollocks
I was going to read that - but I'll not bother if it's shite.
Unless anyone likes it?
Edit: Read post above, undecided now!
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:24 pm
by Jamie
Classic movies, I hate "The Wizard of Oz"
Classic Books, I hate "War & Peace"
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:25 pm
by vtmarik
It's your basic dystopian novel, but at the same time it talks about a world where the citizenry is mandatorily drugged, science rules all, and the eventual culture clash when someone from another land encounters this situation.
It's sort of 1984 meets soma.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:28 pm
by Jamie
vtmarik wrote:It's your basic dystopian novel, but at the same time it talks about a world where the citizenry is mandatorily drugged, science rules all, and the eventual culture clash when someone from another land encounters this situation.
It's sort of 1984 meets soma.
Could you please quote, when talking about other peoples quotes, so we know what you are talking about
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:30 pm
by flashleg8
vtmarik wrote:It's your basic dystopian novel, but at the same time it talks about a world where the citizenry is mandatorily drugged, science rules all, and the eventual culture clash when someone from another land encounters this situation.
It's sort of 1984 meets soma.
I like 1984, what's soma?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:30 pm
by RenegadePaddy
vtmarik wrote:It's your basic dystopian novel, but at the same time it talks about a world where the citizenry is mandatorily drugged, science rules all, and the eventual culture clash when someone from another land encounters this situation.
It's sort of 1984 meets soma.
Except 1984 was pleasurable to read
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:32 pm
by flashleg8
Jamie wrote:Classic movies, I hate "The Wizard of Oz"
Classic Books, I hate "War & Peace"
I agree (though I never finished it). Thought I might like it as I'm interested in the Napoleonic war period, but I never even got to the battle parts before I gave up. Too long, too boring.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:35 pm
by vtmarik
flashleg8 wrote:I like 1984, what's soma?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma_%28Brave_New_World%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carisoprodol
Basically, its the drug in brave new world that they use to control the masses. if you like Huxley's other works, you'll love Brave New World
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:35 pm
by AznBoi97531
I hate A Separate Peace, but I really enjoyed reading The Catcher in the Rye. Holden is a great character, even though he's messed up.
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:36 pm
by flashleg8
Oh cheers, I thought it might be another book.
By the way thats the name of a Glasgow record label for house music (that I like) - now I know where they get the name from!
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:26 am
by btownmeggy
Genghis Khant wrote:Here's a bit of a twist to this topic; a film which most people hate (...) but which I love is The Postman.
Yes!
Genghis Khant wrote: A film so rubbish, so buttock clenchingly piss poor, that it transcends all its intended seriousness and becomes a comedy.
No!
It's post-apocalyptic AND it takes place in Oregon. What could be better?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:34 am
by btownmeggy
qeee1 wrote:
Kate Chopin- Awakening.
---My teeth clench. I begin to see the situation more clearly.
You hate women.---
My first boyfriend ever told me that this book sucked, so I subconsciously had a prejudice against it for years. Last summer, I saw a copy of it for cheap and bought it, thinking I'd give it a whirl, challenge my assumptions. It's not the BEST written piece of literature, and I can understand that it doesn't adhere to contemporary sensibilities of what an entertaining book is, but it's awesome and genius and moving and shocking, and I loved it. Of course it's awesome, and of course I loved it, and I should have known. My first boyfriend was HOLDEN CAULFIELD, and why would I ever consider taking HOLDEN CAULFIELD's taste in literature seriously?
[P.S. Oh, no offense.
]
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:40 am
by got tonkaed
im not really sure where to stand on the awakening....
when i read it in high school, i hated it because i was an unenlightened immature boy (which i may still be)
Now that im in college i respect it and the main charcter much more. However, at the same time it seems like i still havent crossed the divide as far as personal freedom/personal responsibility. Yes, she has certainly gotten a unfair shake of the stick and her liberation was a powerful and necesary experience for her. At the same time her suicide was a very selfish act even if it was perhaps necesary because of the weight of social expectation.
Essentially what im trying to say is i dont have much of a clue of what im trying to say. Im all for trying to be free, and i still want to be all for being responsible to ones who you love (or in her case should love)....so dont mind me while im having my cake and eating it too...
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:49 am
by btownmeggy
got tonkaed wrote:im not really sure where to stand on the awakening....
when i read it in high school, i hated it because i was an unenlightened immature boy (which i may still be)
Now that im in college i respect it and the main charcter much more. However, at the same time it seems like i still havent crossed the divide as far as personal freedom/personal responsibility. Yes, she has certainly gotten a unfair shake of the stick and her liberation was a powerful and necesary experience for her. At the same time her suicide was a very selfish act even if it was perhaps necesary because of the weight of social expectation.
Essentially what im trying to say is i dont have much of a clue of what im trying to say. Im all for trying to be free, and i still want to be all for being responsible to ones who you love (or in her case should love)....so dont mind me while im having my cake and eating it too...
Hmm... I think I took a much more pessimistic reading of it.
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:50 am
by got tonkaed
well i think it could have been much of the class that the book was taught in, but my teacher boiled it down essential into a womens liberation text, which i think you could certainly argue that it is, so many of my perceptions about the book come from that angle.
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:35 am
by MR. Nate
Two additions to the overrated classic book list.
Silas Marner - Felt like Les Miz, but not nearly as interesting.
Wind in the Willows - Did anyone understand the chapter with Pan?
Re: Classic films/books you hate
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:07 am
by luns101
Stopper wrote:"Lost In Translation" - Again, two characters I couldn't give a toss about, especially not the young girl. Uses Japanese people as an "alienation" device. Pretentious twaddle.
Agreed, also on my can't stand list is RUSHMORE (another movie with Bill Murray....coincidence?)
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:37 am
by DIRESTRAITS
Overrated Movies:
Lost in Translation
Dr. Zhivago
Wizard of Oz. Though Its pretty good with Dark Side of the Moon and pot .
The Pursuit of Happiness
Overrated Books:
A Wrinkle In Time
The Harry Potter series
The Good Earth
Anything by Dickens
Re: Classic films/books you hate
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:48 am
by flashleg8
luns101 wrote:Stopper wrote:"Lost In Translation" - Again, two characters I couldn't give a toss about, especially not the young girl. Uses Japanese people as an "alienation" device. Pretentious twaddle.
Agreed, also on my can't stand list is RUSHMORE (another movie with Bill Murray....coincidence?)
Nooooo, thats a great film (although slightly weird). Love the vietnam play the wee guy makes.