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Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:45 am
by SleeperCell911
If you can buy your degrees online then why do you still not have your GED. And yes, I am a midlevel practitioner in emergency medicine that knows more shit then you ever will douche. I may be a dick, but I save lives every day. WTF do you do, flip burgers, suck bags of potato chip down your fat face, finger your own a-hole in hopes to get aroused! Go cry to your mama.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:51 am
by Larry46
by SleeperCell911 on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:45 am
"If you can buy your degrees online then why do you still not have your GED. And yes, I am a midlevel practitioner in emergency medicine that knows more shit then you ever will douche. I may be a dick, but I save lives every day. WTF do you do, flip burgers, suck bags of potato chip down your fat face, finger your own a-hole in hopes to get aroused! Go cry to your mama."
See what I mean.............a real charmer this one!
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:40 pm
by Woodruff
Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Larry46 - I don't see anything against your ratings - some other ratings are not so stellar but neither here nor there...
SleeperCell911 = BUSTED
So seriously...busted or not?
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:49 pm
by jefjef
Woodruff wrote:Karl_R_Kroenen wrote:Larry46 - I don't see anything against your ratings - some other ratings are not so stellar but neither here nor there...
SleeperCell911 = BUSTED
So seriously...busted or not?
This "highly educated" individual got his other account/s guested and premium stripped on the sleepercell account. You all know how it works.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:59 pm
by Bones2484
jefjef wrote:This "highly educated" individual got his other account/s guested and premium stripped on the sleepercell account. You all know how it works.
So he was busted for a multi? Which ones? I don't see any discussion of multis in this thread before you just brought it up... Isn't this thread about offensive posts? If so, I thought premium stripping wasn't a penalty for bigotry?
The lack of information in KRK's post is very unhelpful.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:02 pm
by jefjef
Bones2484 wrote:jefjef wrote:This "highly educated" individual got his other account/s guested and premium stripped on the sleepercell account. You all know how it works.
So he was busted for a multi? Which ones? I don't see any discussion of multis in this thread before you just brought it up... Isn't this thread about offensive posts? If so, I thought premium stripping wasn't a penalty for bigotry?
The lack of information in KRK's post is very unhelpful.
Now bones. It's pretty standard operating procedures that everyone who posts a complaint and are complained about are multi checked regardless of what the complaint is in re of.
BUSTED is for multi accounts.
WARNED or BANNED etc is for other infractions.
You know how it works.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:16 pm
by Bones2484
jefjef wrote:Now bones. It's pretty standard operating procedures that everyone who posts a complaint and are complained about are multi checked regardless of what the complaint is in re of.
BUSTED is for multi accounts.
WARNED or BANNED etc is for other infractions.
You know how it works.
So he gets off for calling someone a "fag" with no punishment? He's also not placed into the "Guests" usergroup which you can only get out of by buying back premium (which he obviously hasn't since his icon is gray)? There's also no list of accounts hes been busted with as what happens sometimes when others are busted for being a multi? He also has not been kicked from any games (for example:
Game 10462925) as what automatically happens when being busted for a multi?
Are you really going to stick with the busted for multi argument here, especially knowing that KRK isn't exactly one for following normal procedure or consistency in how he handles his rulings?
You know how it works.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:37 pm
by jefjef
Bones2484 wrote:jefjef wrote:Now bones. It's pretty standard operating procedures that everyone who posts a complaint and are complained about are multi checked regardless of what the complaint is in re of.
BUSTED is for multi accounts.
WARNED or BANNED etc is for other infractions.
You know how it works.
So he gets off for calling someone a "fag" with no punishment? He's also not placed into the "Guests" usergroup which you can only get out of by buying back premium (which he obviously hasn't since his icon is gray)? There's also no list of accounts hes been busted with as what happens sometimes when others are busted for being a multi? He also has not been kicked from any games (for example:
Game 10462925) as what automatically happens when being busted for a multi?
Are you really going to stick with the busted for multi argument here, especially knowing that KRK isn't exactly one for following normal procedure or consistency in how he handles his rulings?
You know how it works.
Bones. I'm not arguing shit here. I'm just explaining what "Busted" means. And yes when an account is busted for multi, and one of them is premium, the freemi/extra accounts get guested and the primary premium gets stripped of premium but remains active. As far as Bigotry I think KRK may have forgotten to address it due to the bust. Or he just forgot to mention the warning for it.
Now go troll someone one else. You know how that works.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:33 pm
by Evolution299
Bones2484 wrote:jefjef wrote:Now bones. It's pretty standard operating procedures that everyone who posts a complaint and are complained about are multi checked regardless of what the complaint is in re of.
BUSTED is for multi accounts.
WARNED or BANNED etc is for other infractions.
You know how it works.
So he gets off for calling someone a "fag" with no punishment? He's also not placed into the "Guests" usergroup which you can only get out of by buying back premium (which he obviously hasn't since his icon is gray)? There's also no list of accounts hes been busted with as what happens sometimes when others are busted for being a multi? He also has not been kicked from any games (for example:
Game 10462925) as what automatically happens when being busted for a multi?
Are you really going to stick with the busted for multi argument here, especially knowing that KRK isn't exactly one for following normal procedure or consistency in how he handles his rulings?
You know how it works.
Sleeper gets away with the feedback posting he left for Larry, because he withdrew it before a mod could see it.
While doing the search KRK noticed he was a multi and busted him.
KRK should have posted who he was a multi of, out of courtesy, but he doesn't have to.
Looks like another case of " here's another $25 bucks, let's play some more "
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:38 pm
by hmsps
Well why dont they say busted with x y and z and we would know. Communication on here is very poor
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:51 pm
by Bones2484
jefjef wrote:Bones. I'm not arguing shit here. I'm just explaining what "Busted" means. And yes when an account is busted for multi, and one of them is premium, the freemi/extra accounts get guested and the primary premium gets stripped of premium but remains active. As far as Bigotry I think KRK may have forgotten to address it due to the bust. Or he just forgot to mention the warning for it.
Now go troll someone one else. You know how that works.
You still haven't explained why he wasn't removed from his active games if this truly was a multi bust. Clearly he was stripped of premium... so a multi bust is what makes sense, but I'm not the only one confused here as there have been at least 3 other people asking what this ruling was for.
Also, can you explain how to "troll someone one else"? That doesn't even make sense.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:54 pm
by Evolution299
If he was indeed busted as a multi, he should have been removed from his games. Maybe PM, KRK or ES and see if they can look into this.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:19 pm
by jefjef
Evolution299 wrote:If he was indeed busted as a multi, he should have been removed from his games. Maybe PM, KRK or ES and see if they can look into this.
That is not how busted premium accounts are handled. The premium account is stripped of premium but not kicked from games. The other accounts are game kicked and site banned. Closed.
Yes. KRK was not real forthcoming with specific details on this.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [pending] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:18 pm
by Karl_R_Kroenen
Bones2484 wrote:jefjef wrote:Now bones. It's pretty standard operating procedures that everyone who posts a complaint and are complained about are multi checked regardless of what the complaint is in re of.
BUSTED is for multi accounts.
WARNED or BANNED etc is for other infractions.
You know how it works.
So he gets off for calling someone a "fag" with no punishment? He's also not placed into the "Guests" usergroup which you can only get out of by buying back premium (which he obviously hasn't since his icon is gray)? There's also no list of accounts hes been busted with as what happens sometimes when others are busted for being a multi? He also has not been kicked from any games (for example:
Game 10462925) as what automatically happens when being busted for a multi?
Are you really going to stick with the busted for multi argument here, especially knowing that KRK isn't exactly one for following normal procedure or consistency in how he handles his rulings?
You know how it works.
SleeperCell911 was busted with D-Apocalypse + DeathBreeze + Dylan-DeSoto
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:50 pm
by Bones2484
Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:13 pm
by spiesr
Bones2484 wrote:Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
Reading
this suggestion seems to indicate that current policy is NOT to kick the premium multi from any games (for first time offenders at least).
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:14 pm
by Evil Semp
Bones2484 wrote:Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
When someone is busted with multiple accounts and one of those accounts are premium the free account gets kicked from active games and the premium account is stripped of premium but is
NOT removed from active games.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:22 pm
by Bones2484
Evil Semp wrote:Bones2484 wrote:Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
When someone is busted with multiple accounts and one of those accounts are premium the free account gets kicked from active games and the premium account is stripped of premium but is
NOT removed from active games.
Oh wow. That is a ridiculous policy. Now I finally understand why so many people comment on how they disagree with the premium policy and multiple accounts. I used to have no problem with the "buying back", but knowing this changes my outlook.
Well, thank you again for clarifying my ignorance.
edit: No wait, I'm still confused... what was the reason that Kiron got kicked out of his active games (
link)? He was a premium member and was busted as a multi. Am I missing something again? This is why I had no idea the premium rule existed.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:49 pm
by Evil Semp
Bones2484 wrote:Evil Semp wrote:Bones2484 wrote:Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
When someone is busted with multiple accounts and one of those accounts are premium the free account gets kicked from active games and the premium account is stripped of premium but is
NOT removed from active games.
Oh wow. That is a ridiculous policy. Now I finally understand why so many people comment on how they disagree with the premium policy and multiple accounts. I used to have no problem with the "buying back", but knowing this changes my outlook.
If you kicked a premium out of the games wouldn't that be two punishments compared to a free account getting kicked out of games being one punishment?
Bones2484 wrote:Well, thank you again for clarifying my ignorance.
edit: No wait, I'm still confused... what was the reason that Kiron got kicked out of his active games (
link)? He was a premium member and was busted as a multi. Am I missing something again? This is why I had no idea the premium rule existed.
If I am not mistaken when Kiron got busted he was a freemium.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:19 pm
by Evolution299
If you are a premium player and have freemium multis, the only reason you would have them is to cheat and have them in the same games as your premium. What would any other advantages be? You already have unlimited games. So kicking a premium out of his games would be just. Here's how I believe it should work:
If a freemium gets caught with multis. he get kicked out of his games with every account, and the only way back into CC is to buy premium for his original account.
If a premium gets caught with multis, no matter premium or freemium, he gets booted out of all the games with all accounts and the only way back into CC is by paying the $25 dollars.
Of course multiple offenses should be a ban from the site.
Clear, consise and to the point.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:58 pm
by Bones2484
If Kiron was a freemium, then my mistake and I understand how the current system works now.
However, Evolution is 100% correct. You wouldn't need to define any exceptions for CHEATERS who basically give up their right to be treated kindly by CHEATING, plus you'd avoid a lot of the confusion if the punishment was steady across the board. Everyone clicks the no multi box when creating an account... why not strip, kick, and reset? Currently the rules are way too soft for breaking what is the biggest rule on the site that causes the most integrity issues.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:35 am
by Woodruff
Bones2484 wrote:Evil Semp wrote:Bones2484 wrote:Thank you. Do you know why he wasn't kicked out of his active games?
My biggest complaint of this site for years has been the lack of consistency. I'm just trying to figure out why cases such as this are handled differently than others which leads the users to question what is going on.
When someone is busted with multiple accounts and one of those accounts are premium the free account gets kicked from active games and the premium account is stripped of premium but is
NOT removed from active games.
Oh wow. That is a ridiculous policy. Now I finally understand why so many people comment on how they disagree with the premium policy and multiple accounts. I used to have no problem with the "buying back", but knowing this changes my outlook.
It shouldn't be surprising...we actually have an individual who was in HUNDREDS OF GAMES at the time he was given a permanent (yes, permanent) website ban...but he is being allowed to finish playing his games (he currently still has 169 games running). Oh, and his offense? NOT PLAYING HIS GAMES! Yes, he had a whopping single point at the time he was found guilty and perma-banned.
Why would it be any different for a confirmed cheater breaking CC's #1 rule?
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:44 am
by morff69
SleeperCell911 wrote:If you can buy your degrees online then why do you still not have your GED. And yes, I am a midlevel practitioner in emergency medicine that knows more shit then you ever will douche. I may be a dick, but I save lives every day. WTF do you do, flip burgers, suck bags of potato chip down your fat face, finger your own a-hole in hopes to get aroused! Go cry to your mama.
You are quite the angry individual arent you. Your Mum must be so proud. Tell me is she a weight lifter??? She must be to of raised a Dumbell like you. You maybe a dick, lol. YOU are a DICK

As for knowing more than me. Maybe you do in your field. And as for saving lives. Have you ever been to a war zone and seen 1 of your best friends get shot. I have. And I managed to save his life. So whos the douche now? Anyway enjoy your Oh SOOOO educated life. I hear its over rated

Take care..
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:59 pm
by SleeperCell911
Morf, was anyone talking to you? probably not! and yes I did two tours over in the middle east. Saw my fare share of death. Lost a lot of good friends and tried to save so many. It sucked to see the shit that i've seen. The images of body parts strewn all over from a car bombing are as gruesome as they come. I feel your pain buddy. But yes I am a dick. Ha and yes, Mum is proud.
Re: SleeperCell911 - abuse - [BUSTED] KRK
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:59 pm
by Karl_R_Kroenen
ok, enough....
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