English Political Thread Not For The Dumb Americans

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:01 pm

I've never been convinced that British people are any more cultured or knowledgable than Americans. A country where The Sun is the best-selling newspaper and everyone is a monoglot can't be all that cultured!

BTW I can't recommend any better links than Wikipedia for British political parties, because not only do they have a page for each party, each page for each party actually contains a box at the bottom with links for all the major and minor parties. And it all seems pretty accurate & comprehensive.

If it was British news you were after, I'd recommend http://www.guardian.co.uk - it has a left-of-centre bias, but it's probably the fairest paper - but then I might just be biased myself!

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:05 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Finsdale wrote:Were they attempting to constitute all Americans as being dumb, or what? I may not consider myself a genius, but I really don't think I'm dumb.
Well compared to the brits, we are greatly less cultured.

However, our judges don't stop people from wearing a specific kind of hat just because they were wearing that hat when they robbed someone. Anti-Social Behaviour Orders are about the stupidest thing i've ever heard of, and I've read the Raelians' books.

Yeah we are greatly less cultured.. I had no clue british politics were so different until I took that test.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:12 am

Stopper wrote:I've never been convinced that British people are any more cultured or knowledgable than Americans. A country where The Sun is the best-selling newspaper and everyone is a monoglot can't be all that cultured!

BTW I can't recommend any better links than Wikipedia for British political parties, because not only do they have a page for each party, each page for each party actually contains a box at the bottom with links for all the major and minor parties. And it all seems pretty accurate & comprehensive.

If it was British news you were after, I'd recommend http://www.guardian.co.uk - it has a left-of-centre bias, but it's probably the fairest paper - but then I might just be biased myself!

I learned about the guardian from fark..

and if its canadian news your after since canada is all bascially great britain anyways its http://www.cbc.ca

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:36 pm

I was just wondering, kyle, in what particular way you were surprised to find British politics varied from American?

I have to say, that test you took - I could only plough through about 40 questions myself - it seems to ask questions on the minutiae of the parties' respective positions. That may be enlightening in a factual sort of way, but I doubt it gives much idea of why people in the UK vote the way they do.

Like, I vote (and donate to, and have membership of) Labour, but I agree with little of what the party does. I just feel I have to take a realistic position - and as things stand, the other parties will get my support over my dead body.

Joe McCarthy · Post by **Joe McCarthy** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:51 pm

reverend_kyle wrote: Yeah we are greatly less cultured.. I had no clue british politics were so different until I took that test.

Whats this we shit though man? You flunked a test, "we" didn't.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:14 pm

Joe McCarthy wrote:Whats this we shit though man? You flunked a test, "we" didn't.

"We" Americans are less cultured than the British. They're humor, manners, and affectations are superior to ours.

However, we still kill more people than them, so I guess we win.

pikmin · Post by **pikmin** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:44 pm

im an american and i know im not dumb.My teacher is though.We took the same test on middle age stuff and i aced it whil he failed horribly.and on a side note i dont know or care about british or american politics

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:42 pm

Stopper wrote:I was just wondering, kyle, in what particular way you were surprised to find British politics varied from American?

I have to say, that test you took - I could only plough through about 40 questions myself - it seems to ask questions on the minutiae of the parties' respective positions. That may be enlightening in a factual sort of way, but I doubt it gives much idea of why people in the UK vote the way they do.

Like, I vote (and donate to, and have membership of) Labour, but I agree with little of what the party does. I just feel I have to take a realistic position - and as things stand, the other parties will get my support over my dead body.

The issues that came up on the tests aren't common issues in american politics....

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:46 pm

Joe McCarthy wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote: Yeah we are greatly less cultured.. I had no clue british politics were so different until I took that test.
Whats this we shit though man? You flunked a test, "we" didn't.

What test... you can't flunk a personality test.. I came out just as I expected.......

TitusFinn · Post by **TitusFinn** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:26 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Joe McCarthy wrote:Whats this we shit though man? You flunked a test, "we" didn't.
"We" Americans are less cultured than the British. They're humor, manners, and affectations are superior to ours.

However, we still kill more people than them, so I guess we win.

I'd have to say that their humor is not superior to ours, since entertainment is a HUGE export for the USA. Don't get me wrong, they're awesomely funny, but I think "superior" is the wrong word..."equal" is probably more like it.

As for manners...ummm....can we say...The Sex Pistols...it's all relative, brother.

af·fec·ta·tion Audio pronunciation of "affectations" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fk-tshn)
n.

1. A show, pretense, or display.
2.
1. Behavior that is assumed rather than natural; artificiality.
2. A particular habit, as of speech or dress, adopted to give a false impression.

Look what I bolded! Hell, let them be superior in affectations.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:03 am

TitusFinn wrote:I'd have to say that their humor is not superior to ours, since entertainment is a HUGE export for the USA. Don't get me wrong, they're awesomely funny, but I think "superior" is the wrong word..."equal" is probably more like it.

More americans are entertained by drooling babies and people getting kicked in the crotch than by wise commentary and a keen eye for satire. That's how Gallagher made millions of Americans laugh by smashing a watermelon with a mallet while a comic genius like Bill Hicks could only do small clubs in the US.

Equal? You think our humor is equal? An American could never have come up with Monty Python. Compare the American version of "Coupling" to the British version of "Coupling."
Sure we get it right sometimes ("The Office") but most of the time it's the same formulaic sitcom over and over again.

As for manners...ummm....can we say...The Sex Pistols...it's all relative, brother.
You bring up the Sex Pistols, I bring up Ted Nugent. I love the man and his music, but he's not exactly the most mannered either.

af·fec·ta·tion Audio pronunciation of "affectations" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fk-tshn)
n.

1. A show, pretense, or display.
2.
1. Behavior that is assumed rather than natural; artificiality.
2. A particular habit, as of speech or dress, adopted to give a false impression.
Look what I bolded! Hell, let them be superior in affectations.

Yeah, their affectations of civility and intelligence versus our affectations of fake breasts and even faker stupidity.

Personally, i'd rather talk to someone who pretended to be cultured than someone who pretended to be a 32DD while acting like Paris Hilton "because it's not cool to be a nerd."

hawkeye · Post by **hawkeye** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:17 am

TitusFinn wrote:
vtmarik wrote:
Joe McCarthy wrote:Whats this we shit though man? You flunked a test, "we" didn't.
"We" Americans are less cultured than the British. They're humor, manners, and affectations are superior to ours.

However, we still kill more people than them, so I guess we win.
I'd have to say that their humor is not superior to ours, since entertainment is a HUGE export for the USA. Don't get me wrong, they're awesomely funny, but I think "superior" is the wrong word..."equal" is probably more like it.

our humor is much better than British humor in my opinion

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:26 pm

IM AMERICAN SO I GUESS I SHOULDN'T BE HERE

Ronnie_K · Post by **Ronnie_K** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:35 am

In 1973, Under a Conservative Goverment. Ted Heath Introduced The 3 Day Week. It Was a Dark Time For The United Kingdom, In 1973. Those Tory Bastards, Turned Off Our Electricity.

The Conservatives Also Destroyed Liverpool in The 1980's, Under Thatcher The Milk Snatcher.

Since 1973 My Bruvvah Reggie and I, Have Been Socialists. Our Father Was A Docker, and Died Shortly After Losing His Job, In Seaforth Docks.

Utafar · Post by **Utafar** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:07 am

I have one thing to say to all the british on this site that think americans are dumb or just dislike us

(with the help of the french

) we kicked your asses along with the asses of your german mercenaries in the American revoulution.

and we saved your asses in world war 2 so don't go disrespecting americans in any way except sarcasticly.

and no nationality has the right to disrespect any other nationality on this site or any other

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:09 am

This is us americans get for interfering with a British Politics thread....A thread of all americans trying to prove we are better than the brits...

...Pathetic...I actually wanted to talk British Politics..

Ronnie_K · Post by **Ronnie_K** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:17 am

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:57 pm

Hmm - now that's shit-stirring, I think.

Joe McCarthy · Post by **Joe McCarthy** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:42 pm

Kyle you got your chance hoss and you blew it on your "The brits are better than us" bullshit. Buit its not too late to talk about English politics, why not start in about how you wish our electorate was as smart as theirs or something?

joeyjordison · Post by **joeyjordison** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:58 pm

for me voting is a complicated thing. BNP are just plain racist so they are out of the question. i hate conservatives and voting becomes more about keeping them out than getting some1 else in. i think green party hav the right idea but unfortunately wont get in because of their lack of policy and apparent knowledge of anyting other than the environment. lib dems are for grants which is good as i am planning to go to university. but labour are the only thing stopping the torries gettin in.

so there we hav it.

i think i will vote monster raving looney party. i quite fancy a 99p coin, a montain of butter and a canal of wine

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:04 pm

Heres a question....

The test said alot of stuff about pension plans does someone want to recap what the issue over that is?

i found myself putting undecidedo n that alto..

Phate · Post by **Phate** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:05 pm

Conservative 55%

UK Independance Party 51%

Liberal Democrats 48%

Labour 46%

Veritas 45%

Respect Party 45%

The Liberal Party43%

British National Party 38%

Green Party 36%

I'm what you might call a tory cunt. . . in policy views.

But i dislike David Cameron and most of the conservative party as a whole, so i vote labour or ukip i guess. Not particularly illusioned with any of them.

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:27 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:Heres a question....

The test said alot of stuff about pension plans does someone want to recap what the issue over that is?

i found myself putting undecidedo n that alto..

Yes.. The issues are that

a) Thatcher linked annual state pension increases to inflation & not the general rise in incomes, thereby making state pensions worth (relatively) less and less each year

b) Private companies and many parts of the public sector are pulling out en masse from providing decent defined benefit pensions for their workers,

c) Not many people make their own, sufficient, private pension provision (And why would they? Private pension schemes are shite, except if you're loaded.)

But luckily

d) No-one really gives a toss. Might die tomorrow. Who cares?

johnnyrotten · Post by **johnnyrotten** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:59 pm

You scored as Veritas.

You support the Right-Wing Veritas Party. Veritas wish to leave the European Union, wish to be tougher against travellers and cut immigration.

Veritas 61%

Conservative 61%

British National Party 59%

Green Party 59%

UK Independance Party 58%

Labour 55%

Respect Party 53%

The Liberal Party 53%

Liberal Democrats 51%

Oh shit.

Utafar · Post by **Utafar** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:52 pm

Ronnie_K wrote:

whats your point

English Political Thread Not For The Dumb Americans

Which ENGLISH Party Do You Support