American Presidential Canidates

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:09 pm

libertarians, yuck.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:09 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:nope, i don't believe in it philosophically.

What do you prefer?

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:10 pm

like i said, none of the above. i don't beleive in any of it. i prefer real freedom. there's no government like no government.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:11 pm

Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
Norse wrote:Don't know any of these guys....who's the most right-wing out of them?
Brownback.
He's got my vote...

as long as he sterilises muslims and blacks

that was a joke by the way
And you say MY humour is bad

we all cant be little affeminite shmucks now can we? the world would stop turning.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:12 pm

Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
Norse wrote:Don't know any of these guys....who's the most right-wing out of them?
Brownback.
He's got my vote...

as long as he sterilises muslims and blacks

that was a joke by the way
And you say MY humour is bad
we all cant be little affeminite shmucks now can we? the world would stop turning.

are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:20 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:like i said, none of the above. i don't beleive in any of it. i prefer real freedom. there's no government like no government.

What is the world without government that you imagine like? How do people interact with each other? Is there technology? Are there social services? Are there roads? Is there money or other kinds of wealth? Do people work? If so, in what kind of jobs?

It's just hard for me to imagine a pleasant scenario that is at once without government and without democracy. Democracy without government--doesn't sound so bad. Government without democracy--it happens every day. But both?

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:27 pm

btownmeggy wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:like i said, none of the above. i don't beleive in any of it. i prefer real freedom. there's no government like no government.
What is the world without government that you imagine like? How do people interact with each other? Is there technology? Are there social services? Are there roads? Is there money or other kinds of wealth? Do people work? If so, in what kind of jobs?

It's just hard for me to imagine a pleasant scenario that is at once without government and without democracy. Democracy without government--doesn't sound so bad. Government without democracy--it happens every day. But both?

I remember I had a long argument about anarchy. There were so many flaws I couldn't believe someone would actually want it

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:28 pm

democracy is the tyrany of the majority. on it's best day. i'm more interested in forms like concensus.

i'm not sure i'm interested in talking about it all from scratch. but i believe all government and authority rest on force or the threat of force. i don't believe one can be truelly free or live in peace while government looms over them. that's the basic idea without going heavily into my personal vision.

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:29 pm

I remember I had a long argument about capitalism and democracy. There were so many flaws I couldn't believe someone would actually want it.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:31 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:I remember I had a long argument about capitalism and democracy. There were so many flaws I couldn't believe someone would actually want it.

I remember I posted something and some n00b same the exact same thing except he replaced anarchy with democracy

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:34 pm

and capitalism. so now you're droppin the N-bomb? the guy who has 93 games? why don't you go play and stop posting so much before you call me a nueb

Iliad wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:I remember I had a long argument about capitalism and democracy. There were so many flaws I couldn't believe someone would actually want it.
I remember I posted something and some n00b same the exact same thing except he replaced anarchy with democracy

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:35 pm

Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?

No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:36 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:democracy is the tyrany of the majority. on it's best day. i'm more interested in forms like concensus.

i'm not sure i'm interested in talking about it all from scratch. but i believe all government and authority rest on force or the threat of force. i don't believe one can be truelly free or live in peace while government looms over them. that's the basic idea without going heavily into my personal vision.

I see. I accept that answer, and agree with much of it.

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:36 pm

i don't like him either.

Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:37 pm

btownmeggy wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:democracy is the tyrany of the majority. on it's best day. i'm more interested in forms like concensus.

i'm not sure i'm interested in talking about it all from scratch. but i believe all government and authority rest on force or the threat of force. i don't believe one can be truelly free or live in peace while government looms over them. that's the basic idea without going heavily into my personal vision.
I see. I accept that answer, and agree with much of it.

Oh, but one thing: Is consensus POSSIBLE??? 'Cause I'm not so sure...

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:41 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:i don't like him either.

Thanks earth-boy.

You know, we could carry this democracy onto the next level if you wish. We could make an odinist/earth alliance!

whatdya think?

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:41 pm

i'm glad we can find some common ground. consensus falls apart on larger and larger scales. but if you ask me so does everything else. i'm not real into bueracracy.

btownmeggy wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:democracy is the tyrany of the majority. on it's best day. i'm more interested in forms like concensus.

i'm not sure i'm interested in talking about it all from scratch. but i believe all government and authority rest on force or the threat of force. i don't believe one can be truelly free or live in peace while government looms over them. that's the basic idea without going heavily into my personal vision.
I see. I accept that answer, and agree with much of it.
Oh, but one thing: Is consensus POSSIBLE??? 'Cause I'm not so sure...

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:42 pm

Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.

As if I care if you don't like me.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:44 pm

Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.
As if I care if you don't like me.*crying heartily into his little soggy napkin*

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:45 pm

Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.
As if I care if you don't like me.

You can edit quotes! Holy shit! And there was I thinking you were a dumbass!

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:45 pm

i dig most odinism stuff. but an alliance to what end? i'm not sure if they're as anarchistic as most other pagans( i know heathen is prefered). i think honor is kind of a vague value. i'd like to know more about the asutru honor concept.

oh and there's that pesky prison nazi odinist element.

Norse wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:i don't like him either.
Thanks earth-boy.

You know, we could carry this democracy onto the next level if you wish. We could make an odinist/earth alliance!

whatdya think?

mybike_yourface · Post by **mybike_yourface** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:46 pm

as if we care that you don't care that we don't like you!

Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.
As if I care if you don't like me.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:47 pm

Iliad wrote: You can edit quotes! Holy shit! And there was I thinking you were a dumbass!

come on now, is that the best you can do?

What would your grandfather think? He fought in wars so that you could have your gay opinions.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:48 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:as if we care that you don't care that we don't like you!

Iliad wrote:
Norse wrote:
Iliad wrote: are you saying lame jokes keep the world going round?
No, but if everyone was gay, like you, then reproduction ( a natural urge) would not exist, and we would soon become extinct.

BTW I despise everyone, who isnt a white, middle classed, educated, english person who isn't prone to violence, alcohol and various drugs.

so don't worry your little cotton socks off that I dont like you iliad.
As if I care if you don't like me.

Why do you put quotes in the bottom of your post? It's almost as bad as
Honibaz.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:49 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:i dig most odinism stuff. but an alliance to what end? i'm not sure if they're as anarchistic as most other pagans( i know heathen is prefered). i think honor is kind of a vague value. i'd like to know more about the asutru honor concept.

oh and there's that pesky prison nazi odinist element.

well, if you're not willing to accept the nazi stuff, then we should go our seperate ways now!

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