Is England a country?

ignotus · Post by **ignotus** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:08 pm

There are two Americas and only one England...

...with David Seaman at the goal!

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:03 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:England should barely be considered one of our territories...

You wasted your 5,000th post on crap like THAT?!?

0ojakeo0 · Post by **0ojakeo0** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:04 pm

No. Ireland is a country.

GreecePwns · Post by **GreecePwns** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:11 pm

diddle wrote:
mr. incrediball wrote:the official term used to describe both england and scotland is constituent country.

Wales is a principality, Northern Ireland is a province.
your mum is a greek yoghurt

hey! meh...i don't like Greek yoghurt anyway.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:11 pm

It is a country, just a constituent country.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:18 am

0ojakeo0 wrote:No. Ireland is a country.

well part of it is.

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:15 pm

Ireland is 2 countries. you hav Eire(Southern Ireland) and Ulster(Northern Ireland). now N. Ireland is part of Britain.

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:27 pm

DAZMCFC wrote: now N. Ireland is part of Britain.

But not Great Britain.

Except in the athletics.

And car registration plates (the "GB" bit some people have.)

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:31 pm

I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:45 pm

luns101 wrote:I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.

Stopper please show the diagram.

Or at least link to it, I'm interested now.

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:48 pm

luns101 wrote:I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.

Well, funnily enough, I did discover it's on its fourth revision today. It seems that Venn diagram compilers have no more idea than the rest of us exactly how it works. Nevertheless, I feel duty-bound to reproduce it here for the benefit of anyone interested enough to look at this thread, to clarify things for them.

Now, someone explain Puerto Rico to me.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:49 pm

AAAGGGGHHHH!!!

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:51 pm

Stopper wrote:
luns101 wrote:I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.
Well, funnily enough, I did discover it's on its fourth revision today. It seems that Venn diagram compilers have no more idea than the rest of us exactly how it works. Nevertheless, I feel duty-bound to reproduce it here for the benefit of anyone interested enough to look at this thread, to clarify things for them.

Now, someone explain Puerto Rico to me.

Ooh, interesting.

That's actually a really neat way to remember that sort of thing.

Stopper · Post by **Stopper** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:01 pm

My mission is to Educate, Inform, and Confuse.

luns101 · Post by **luns101** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:02 pm

Stopper wrote:My mission is to Educate, Inform, and Confuse.

Mission accomplished!

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:51 am

luns101 wrote:
Stopper wrote:My mission is to Educate, Inform, and Confuse.
Mission accomplished!

Luns.. If you can't comprehend a map like that, I feel sorry for your students

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:11 am

Stopper wrote:
luns101 wrote:I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.
Well, funnily enough, I did discover it's on its fourth revision today. It seems that Venn diagram compilers have no more idea than the rest of us exactly how it works. Nevertheless, I feel duty-bound to reproduce it here for the benefit of anyone interested enough to look at this thread, to clarify things for them.

Now, someone explain Puerto Rico to me.

Puerto Rico.. This is an easy one.

It's a territory.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:12 am

DAZMCFC wrote:Ireland is 2 countries. you hav Eire(Southern Ireland) and Ulster(Northern Ireland). now N. Ireland is part of Britain.

Pretty much a more wordy version of what I said one post above you.

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:36 am

reverend_kyle wrote:
0ojakeo0 wrote:No. Ireland is a country.
well part of it is.

not quite.

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:14 am

Stopper wrote:
luns101 wrote:I was so afraid Stopper was going to show us that diagram of the UK again.
Well, funnily enough, I did discover it's on its fourth revision today. It seems that Venn diagram compilers have no more idea than the rest of us exactly how it works. Nevertheless, I feel duty-bound to reproduce it here for the benefit of anyone interested enough to look at this thread, to clarify things for them.

Now, someone explain Puerto Rico to me.

Thats actually a really good diagram. Also shows that England itself is no longer a country, but part of the UK.

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:20 am

I, norse, recognise England, Scotand and Wales as seperate countries, with seperate Identities.

Within my Utopian idea's, would be the definite collapse of Britain and the UK. The channel Islands would then nominally become apart of English empire, as would all other British territories, such as the falklands.

I would, however, give Northern Ireland the chance to become a part of the English empire.

Passport control would be introduced on the english borders between scotland and Wales, A new Hadrians wall will be built, 80 foot tall, made of cast Iron, and would be guarded day and night by an elite squad of "Death-angels".

Hadrians wall will also be extended to the welsh border.

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:22 am

Norse wrote:I, norse, recognise England, Scotand and Wales as seperate countries, with seperate Identities.

Within my Utopian idea's, would be the definite collapse of Britain and the UK. The channel Islands would then nominally become apart of English empire, as would all other British territories, such as the falklands.

I would, however, give Northern Ireland the chance to become a part of the English empire.

Passport control would be introduced on the english borders between scotland and Wales, A new Hadrians wall will be built, 80 foot tall, made of cast Iron, and would be guarded day and night by an elite squad of "Death-angels".

Hadrians wall will also be extended to the welsh border.

you REALLY hate scotland and wales, don't you?

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:25 am

I think the 1st line is true...then waffled on...

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:29 am

Eh dissing England are we? Wicked flame wars please? i have a little thing to say about the fat fu*ks in the USA... Bleh, i hope china bombs you.

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:34 am

Norse wrote:I, norse, recognise England, Scotand and Wales as seperate countries, with seperate Identities.

Within my Utopian idea's, would be the definite collapse of Britain and the UK. The channel Islands would then nominally become apart of English empire, as would all other British territories, such as the falklands.

I would, however, give Northern Ireland the chance to become a part of the English empire.

Passport control would be introduced on the english borders between scotland and Wales, A new Hadrians wall will be built, 80 foot tall, made of cast Iron, and would be guarded day and night by an elite squad of "Death-angels".

Hadrians wall will also be extended to the welsh border.

So what, who cares what you think? The topic is about whether England in reality is a country, which it is not in any sense of the word. Having its own sports team is the closest it comes, but thats never been a deciding factor for a country.

Politically its part of the UK. Economically its part of the UK. Socially its part of the UK. Geographically its part of Britain. Geologically its part of the UK. The Monarchy rules over the UK. In what way is England its own independant country?