Gay Adoption

[Snorri1234]

A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility

As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother

unnatural?
The biologst Bruce Baghemil produced research in 1999 that found evidence of homosexual activity in over 1,500 species, from gut worms to primates. The number of species that shave or drive cars, on the other hand, is one.

What do you mean by unnatural?

That reminds me of my favorite Terry Pratchett quote:
Sgt Colon: "It's not as it's supposed to be, sirrr. I'm not a fan of unnatural things."
Vetinary: "Really, you mean you eat raw meat and sleep in trees?"
Sgt Colon: "Sirrr?!"

[jiminski]

A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility

As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother

unnatural?
The biologst Bruce Baghemil produced research in 1999 that found evidence of homosexual activity in over 1,500 species, from gut worms to primates. The number of species that shave or drive cars, on the other hand, is one.

What do you mean by unnatural?

Exactly! when a dog humps my leg is it a legsbian!?

No.. of course not! A large factor at the margins of sexual preference is cultural socialisation. 'Natural' with regards humanity has more luggage than the word can carry!

[Heimdall]

I posted this already in another thread, but it's more suitable in this topic:

Social science research has shown that parents' sexual orientation has no bearing on that of children, and that children of LGBT couples fare as well as other children in many objective measures; the American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, American Academy of Pediatrics, and many other relevant professional organizations believe LGBT parents to be as qualified as heterosexuals. Nevertheless, many object to LGBT parenting on moral or cultural grounds, and the issue is considered a part of the West's culture.

If you put Religious belief aside, there's no valid reason not to allow gay adoption. Truth is that most people who are against Gay adoption have strong religious convictions.

[heavycola]

Besides, the point is that two parents of different sex are what is best. No one can contend with that. And it is unnatural for gays to raise a child, heavycola.

1) We appear to have a thread here with most people contending that, actually. I would suggest that two parents who love each other and the child are what is best.

2) I pointed out that human behaviour is rarely 'natural', and homosexuality does not seem to be unnatural at all. I was hoping for a definition of natural vs unnatural from you.

[Dancing Mustard]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

[muy_thaiguy]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

He believes that homosexuals need to be rounded up and thrown into underground cisterns to live with the mole people.

[Snorri1234]

Ofcourse nap would claim the bible says homosexuality is not natural. But who's to say God wouldn't have said the same thing about cars if the book was just written a few millenia later.

[Dancing Mustard]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

He believes that homosexuals need to be rounded up and thrown into underground cisterns to live with the mole people.

So they can adopt then?

[muy_thaiguy]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

He believes that homosexuals need to be rounded up and thrown into underground cisterns to live with the mole people.

So they can adopt then?

Only abandoned mole people babies, according to Ron Paul.

[jiminski]

Ofcourse nap would claim the bible says homosexuality is not natural. But who's to say God wouldn't have said the same thing about cars if the book was just written a few millenia later.

God is omniscient and knows the touch of a man as intimately as the touch of a woman.

[Napoleon Ier]

Ofcourse nap would claim the bible says homosexuality is not natural. But who's to say God wouldn't have said the same thing about cars if the book was just written a few millenia later.

I try to refrain from innanely quoting the Bible unless it is relevant

[comic boy]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

[Napoleon Ier]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

I simply started a debate I found interesting around a topical issue. If you have a problem with that, don't come here squealing about what a bigot I am.

[jiminski]

... don't come here squealing about what a bigot I am.

hmm an anti-bigot bigot ... *sharp intake of breath* that's the worst kind of bigot!

[Dancing Mustard]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

Funny, you'd have thought it'd stand out from all the other threads really... as it is it just blends right in, stealthy and undetectable, call it 'camouflaged' if you will... uncanny stuff

[Guiscard]

Nah. Don't think I'm gonna get drawn in to this one. I'll leave you guys to it.

[MeDeFe]

So far it's
Napoleon IER: 0 minus a few for not providing sources for his claims
The rest: all the points minus a few for not providing sources for their counterclaims


Really Nappy, you haven't done anything to prove your viewpoint, you're throwing out hypotheses and going on about "unnatural" which is pretty easily debunked even without citing anything, I mean, I'm looking at a rather unnatural thing right now as I'm typing this, and you couldn't answer if you didn't have a similar device at your disposal. There's very little left in human society that might be termed "natural" without being disputed.

heavycola made the best point so far I think

We appear to have a thread here with most people contending that, actually. I would suggest that two parents who love each other and the child are what is best.

I'm sure someone can dig out some study investigating general happiness with regard to stability and emotional bonding in the family group or something similar if someone shouts loudly enough.

[Napoleon Ier]

I'm not saying homosexuality is purely psychological (here), but rather that homosexual parenting is.

[Coleman]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

He believes that homosexuals need to be rounded up and thrown into underground cisterns to live with the mole people.

So they can adopt then?

Only abandoned mole people babies, according to Ron Paul.

Makes sense to me though, we elect the bigot to save ourselves and then 4 years later we elect a good peace time person to give us what we want.

[Dancing Mustard]

Before I vote, I would like to know how Ron Paul stands on this issue?

He believes that homosexuals need to be rounded up and thrown into underground cisterns to live with the mole people.

So they can adopt then?

Only abandoned mole people babies, according to Ron Paul.

Makes sense to me though, we elect the bigot to save ourselves and then 4 years later we elect a good peace time person to give us what we want.

Give us what? Extra Mole-Babies?

[comic boy]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

I simply started a debate I found interesting around a topical issue. If you have a problem with that, don't come here squealing about what a bigot I am.

You are being dishonest

[Guiscard]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

I simply started a debate I found interesting around a topical issue. If you have a problem with that, don't come here squealing about what a bigot I am.

BIGOT!!!

[Dancing Mustard]

This thread is simply an exercise in religious bigotry !

I simply started a debate I found interesting around a topical issue. If you have a problem with that, don't come here squealing about what a bigot I am.

BIGOT!!!

BIGGER

[Moghul]

All right, bigots and bigotresses. If a child who has two mothers or two fathers, rather than parents of mixed gender descent - if such a child can be said to be denied the right to a parent of whatever gender - does that mean that a child with heterosexual parents are similarly denied the right to either a second father or a second mother (which is a privelege of children of homosexual parents)? If not, why not?

[Napoleon Ier]

All right, bigots and bigotresses. If a child who has two mothers or two fathers, rather than parents of mixed gender descent - if such a child can be said to be denied the right to a parent of whatever gender - does that mean that a child with heterosexual parents are similarly denied the right to either a second father or a second mother (which is a privelege of children of homosexual parents)? If not, why not?

That's not the way nature's designed us

UNNATURAL