Conquer Club

Hitman079 wrote:source? so, are all of Jesus's miracles metaphors

The Bible, duh.

Some of the miracles are metaphors, and some of them are literal; like with all of the bible. You just need to know how to read it to make sure that you're getting the right end of the stick. If you take the whole thing in a rigid over-literal way then it's the most self-contradicting book in the world, you need to know when it's being serious, and when it's talking to you in an allegorical fashion.

In my opinion, we will never really know the truth about this and other things because we were not there. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong here, but how would you really know for sure.

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Doesn't the gospel of Dan Brown stipulate that Jesus was married? Now, I know from first-hand experience that marriage doesn't mean someone isn't gay, but it makes it somewhat less likely, no?

bloknayrb wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Doesn't the gospel of Dan Brown stipulate that Jesus was married? Now, I know from first-hand experience that marriage doesn't mean someone isn't gay, but it makes it somewhat less likely, no?

i believe even non dan brown historical evidence suggests that for Jesus to be able to be the teacher he was often described to be, part of that social position would require him to be married.

got tonkaed wrote:

bloknayrb wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Doesn't the gospel of Dan Brown stipulate that Jesus was married? Now, I know from first-hand experience that marriage doesn't mean someone isn't gay, but it makes it somewhat less likely, no?

i believe even non dan brown historical evidence suggests that for Jesus to be able to be the teacher he was often described to be, part of that social position would require him to be married.

Indeed it does.

Beastly wrote:The Gospel writers record an account when Jesus avoided violence by an angry mob simply by mingling with the crowd. Judas had to identify Him with a kiss of betrayal. Obviously, these incidents show us that Jesus looked like any other Jew of His day.

Egypt was a multi-cultural society in which all were welcome. So I don't think Jesus was Black African, even though he lived in Egypt.

When did Jesus live in Egypt

i believe according to biblical accounts it would have been from the beginning of his life to about his teenage years as a result of king herod calling to kill all of the firstborn sons of isreal.

comic boy wrote:

Beastly wrote:The Gospel writers record an account when Jesus avoided violence by an angry mob simply by mingling with the crowd. Judas had to identify Him with a kiss of betrayal. Obviously, these incidents show us that Jesus looked like any other Jew of His day.

Egypt was a multi-cultural society in which all were welcome. So I don't think Jesus was Black African, even though he lived in Egypt.

When did Jesus live in Egypt

During his 'mystery years'.

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Dan Brown simply plaguerised earlier works and it was a fictional book
Holy Blood and its follow up actually do contain some interesting stuff despite the over zealous conclusions they tend to leap towards, its a case of seperating the wheat from the chaff.

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Oh come on. He was a rabbi, it is and was highly recommended (there are more fitting words for this) for them to be married.

Skittles! wrote:Here's another question.

Was Jesus Black? The answer is obviously yes.

At best, the lighter Egyptian color would be about as "black" as he would get. The whole Levant/Egyptian area had been colonized and their people's blended in with that of the Greeks, Romans, Persians, etc. If anything, he would be like that of Jews today, or possibly similar to that of the Arabs.

unriggable wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Oh come on. He was a rabbi, it is and was highly recommended (there are more fitting words for this) for them to be married.

I know. I was agreeing...

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Skittles! wrote:Here's another question.

Was Jesus Black? The answer is obviously yes.

At best, the lighter Egyptian color would be about as "black" as he would get. The whole Levant/Egyptian area had been colonized and their people's blended in with that of the Greeks, Romans, Persians, etc. If anything, he would be like that of Jews today, or possibly similar to that of the Arabs.

What I meant to say earlier in this was that the area had been colonized and integrated with Europeans and Asians for nearly 1000 years to this point at least.

Guiscard wrote:

unriggable wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Oh come on. He was a rabbi, it is and was highly recommended (there are more fitting words for this) for them to be married.

I know. I was agreeing...

Oh. It sounded like you said it was a conspiracy.

So far as Jesus's "color": The concept of race was invented long after Jesus's life. Ethno-religiously, if he existed, he was certainly Jewish. Racially, according to our modern-day definitions, he cannot be definitively described.

btownmeggy wrote:So far as Jesus's "color": The concept of race was invented long after Jesus's life. Ethno-religiously, if he existed, he was certainly Jewish. Racially, according to our modern-day definitions, he cannot be definitively described.

Jewish black guy?! Not too many of thoses

comic boy wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Dan Brown simply plaguerised earlier works and it was a fictional book
Holy Blood and its follow up actually do contain some interesting stuff despite the over zealous conclusions they tend to leap towards, its a case of seperating the wheat from the chaff.

Holy Blood and Holy Grail is a very good book

Skittles! wrote:

comic boy wrote:

Guiscard wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

In an entirely non-Dan Brown conspiracy bollocks sense, yes this is true.

Dan Brown simply plaguerised earlier works and it was a fictional book
Holy Blood and its follow up actually do contain some interesting stuff despite the over zealous conclusions they tend to leap towards, its a case of seperating the wheat from the chaff.

Holy Blood and Holy Grail is a very good book

Not so much if you're a historian... Mainly due to being a fantasised, critically non-researched conclusion-then-argument piece of trash. The Xtrabasco school of cut-and-paste non-history at its best!

Dunno if he swung both ways, but he was almost definitely a stoner.

requires new thread i guess.

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

ahahahahahahahhahaha he takes Dan Brown seriosuly what a joke

Napoleon Ier wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

ahahahahahahahhahaha he takes Dan Brown seriosuly what a joke

ahahahhahhahahhahha you don't have a clue do you?

Snorri1234 wrote:

Napoleon Ier wrote:

comic boy wrote:No idea if he was gay but from a historical perspective it is extremely unlikely that he was unmarried.

ahahahahahahahhahaha he takes Dan Brown seriosuly what a joke

ahahahhahhahahhahha you don't have a clue do you?

Snorri, have you ever studied the New Testament? Have you even read the thing?

I am fairly sure that Jesus was a short, bald, married, gay, Asian woman.

I thought not.