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C.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

yeti_c wrote:C.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.
So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?yeti_c wrote:C.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
I think this is a perfect reason why FW posts should not count if Off Topic posts don't either. If they're going to do something, it should at least be done right and carried through all the way.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.


I agree, and the same goes for usergroups, in my opinion.hecter wrote:To be honest, I don't really care, I just don't know why Flame Wars was kept too... If you compare the two, you'll find a hell of a lot more meaningful threads in IK than you will in FW.
This guy nailed it.treefiddy wrote:I don't agree with this at all. There are people who care about their post count (not sure why). So if they don't get post count increase from IK, then they'll just start posting and spamming in the forums that do count. I do know that people who do that can be punished and such, but once everyone starts doing it, then it'll be too hard to keep up with punishing the offenders.AndyDufresne wrote:By not attributing post count to Usergroups and Off Topics forums, it'll keep certain types of spam down.
--Andy
That and it would increase the amount of garbage posts in the CC areas. While it may not necessarily pertain to spam, it would increase the amount of stupid replies a thread gets. Things like "lol, I never thought of that." or "lol" or "you suck" or any other witty one liner that someone can post in several threads. There's already way too many replies when someone makes a post complaining about dice. Add all the people trying to increase their post count to the mix by all repeating each other over and over again.
Fun times are ahead, I assure you.
I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.nagerous wrote:So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?yeti_c wrote:C.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.
How about half the spam in general discussion? Or posts that just say C. and don't actually contribute to a debate in any way?
Well, technically everything in there is about the game and/or it's players, but I just don't think that "*insert CC in general/dice/player name* is a *insert profanities* *insert descriptive and disgusting thing about sex*" really constitutes useful and helpful discussion that will help the site grow.Ditocoaf wrote:I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.

QFT, many of the points for why the IK should count make a lot of sense. And do you guys really want the other boards to be spamfull?nagerous wrote:So what you're essentially saying is nothing in the forum games, IK or usergroups contribute to the community in any way but the spam and crap that is always posted in flame wars does?yeti_c wrote:C.Ditocoaf wrote:In many online forums, Post Count is used as a way to gauge how much a user has contributed to the community. I have seen several forums that don't count off-topic posts, for that reason. This seems perfectly reasonable to me.
How about half the spam in general discussion? Or posts that just say C. and don't actually contribute to a debate in any way?
Skoffin wrote: So um.. er... I'll be honest, I don't know what the f*ck to do from here. Goddamnit chu.
i said we since it wasnt my idea to make this thread.Anarkistsdream wrote:Don't say "we"
"we" is very deceptive.
I do not agree with you.
Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.hecter wrote:Well, technically everything in there is about the game and/or it's players, but I just don't think that "*insert CC in general/dice/player name* is a *insert profanities* *insert descriptive and disgusting thing about sex*" really constitutes useful and helpful discussion that will help the site grow.Ditocoaf wrote:I was mostly just talking about why it can be okay for some posts not to be counted; I don't know anything about the FW forum (I've never posted there). I think the reason that it's still counted is that it's intended to be about the game, but if people aren't actually using it to argue about actual games as desired by the staff, then I guess it shouldn't be counted either.
I also don't like the message that not counting posts in IK sends. In itself, it's a very trivial matter; post count doesn't actually mean anything. But it sends the message that IK is just some stupid spam board and that's all it's good for, rather than a place more like the cliched watercooler in an office, where you can go, hang out, chat about nothing or discuss important cultural topics, get some help with something (non-CC related), ect.
they could post a lot in FW too and even tournament games. What knowledge of how to play the game does that give them?Ditocoaf wrote: Well, I think the post count is designed to show your CC-related experience. Someone could join, not play a single game, not even know how to play, and discuss politics constantly in IK; this would give them a high post-count, but no knowledge of the game.
so people who get all there posts in FW know a lot about the game. Let me say my most active post place is FW and I suck at this game. Even for tournament games, announcements. What knowledge of the game do you even gain from callouts?Ditocoaf wrote: I'm not sure how well this concept will apply to this community, but in others, it's helped people know who to look to regarding game issues. People still use the off-topic forums for meaningful discourse, but that meaningful discourse could take place anywhere, and has no purpose to that website.
FW will never be the "i dont like the way you deploy" sort of place. Its for FLAMES although you could try to change that it will never work.Ditocoaf wrote: I can see two potentials for FW: What it is now (people insulting other people, trying to either shock readers, or make themselves look BA,), and what it was meant to be (a place to say, "you suck at playing CN, look at what you did in game 1234567!" and debate who plays the worst). The former definitely does not relate to the game; the second does. Using the rationale I mentioned above, then either FW should be regulated to game-realted trash talk, or FW posts shouldn't count. This is of course if the limited post-count stays in effect.
well then i have to add all teh mods, but w.e.Ditocoaf wrote:Also, since you're making a list, could you make a list of people who agree with the limitations in any way?
If you make one, add me to it.