JOHNNYROCKET24 CHEATING INFO [cleared]

[Bruceswar]

JR Will it ever stop? BTW Soloman have you happened to check out the number of games JR played? If so you would see it is a TON! Now givin that you would also know that means he has played every rank including ?'s. Just because someone plays a few ?'s that end up dead beating. Does not make them a cheater. Nobody here is a nazi, but you are so far off base on this one you are making yourself look bad.

[Soloman]

JR Will it ever stop? BTW Soloman have you happened to check out the number of games JR played? If so you would see it is a TON! Now givin that you would also know that means he has played every rank including ?'s. Just because someone plays a few ?'s that end up dead beating. Does not make them a cheater. Nobody here is a nazi, but you are so far off base on this one you are making yourself look bad.

Ok I will list another set for Mr. Rocket which seem to follow a disproportionate pattern. If he is not cheating then he is very adept at using dishonorable tactics to increase his wins and points. SO my question is which is he a CHEAT or a PARIAH that prey upon thow newest and most likely to deadbeat? EIther answer shows an extreme amount about his character...

Player Names-
seepinpanda05
stanpig
BeMyRunawayLove
tdoginthehizzle
WHQH
jman9498
Prepared
Hannahbanana
GREATESTEVER
mette
babycham1
Mr.Langstone
ludo87
White Fire
Talase
wei


Game Numbers#
486470
486413
486387
480222
486044
489350
489956
490063
494571
496981
499650
507154
510838
515439
536304
553757

These are just a few games from the 1st 3 of 29pages of 1 on 1 games that follow the same pattern described there are more even amongst these pages and I have not checked in further as I felt this was more then enough to further illustrate the pattern

[nagerous]

Sure.. theres no unwritten rule against him yet (it's hard to know what is a written rule and an unwritten rule on this website)

If Lack organises the no points for new recruit deadbeats code soon, flagrant abusers of the system like wocket and klobber can be prevented from continuing this no skill involved strategy.

As for now, wocket isn't a cheat, he just knows how to work the system, playing new recruit deadbeats and chefs who can't read a risk map upside down.

[lord voldemort]

Sure.. theres no unwritten rule against him yet (it's hard to know what is a written rule and an unwritten rule on this website)

If Lack organises the no points for new recruit deadbeats code soon, flagrant abusers of the system like wocket and klobber can be prevented from continuing this no skill involved strategy.

As for now, wocket isn't a cheat, he just knows how to work the system, playing new recruit deadbeats and chefs who can't read a risk map upside down.

qft yer hes doing it cheaply but its gamesmanship not cheating

[Soloman]

Sure.. theres no unwritten rule against him yet (it's hard to know what is a written rule and an unwritten rule on this website)

If Lack organises the no points for new recruit deadbeats code soon, flagrant abusers of the system like wocket and klobber can be prevented from continuing this no skill involved strategy.

As for now, wocket isn't a cheat, he just knows how to work the system, playing new recruit deadbeats and chefs who can't read a risk map upside down.

qft yer hes doing it cheaply but its gamesmanship not cheating

Gamemanship huh....interesting perspective although personally Ifind the vast # to be suspious and maybe it should become some type of honor/unwritten rule violation if it is not cheating, but hey I still lean towards cheating...

[cisco2001]

Sure.. theres no unwritten rule against him yet (it's hard to know what is a written rule and an unwritten rule on this website)

If Lack organises the no points for new recruit deadbeats code soon, flagrant abusers of the system like wocket and klobber can be prevented from continuing this no skill involved strategy.

As for now, wocket isn't a cheat, he just knows how to work the system, playing new recruit deadbeats and chefs who can't read a risk map upside down.

qft yer hes doing it cheaply but its gamesmanship not cheating

Gamemanship huh....interesting perspective although personally Ifind the vast # to be suspious and maybe it should become some type of honor/unwritten rule violation if it is not cheating, but hey I still lean towards cheating...

It's jot cheating to play newbies. I try to avoid playing them as the risk vs. reward is not to my liking. However, if JR wants to join their games then that's his right and is considered fair play under the rules of this site. If Lack wants to change the rules so that beating a newbie results in 0 points, then that is fine by me, as long as I can block newbies from joining my games. Regardless, playing them IS NOT AGAINST the rules.

JR did not reach his rank 7 points at a time. I can assure you that it's much more efficient to play higher ranks to bump up your score, unless you're Klobber of course. If you look at JR's games, his point gains came from playing higher ticket players. Also, it's easy to spot a multi as they are utilized repeatedly and the players that were listed have not been involved in any more games with JR.

Soloman; I understand that you don't like JR. However, accusing him of being a cheater because he plays newbies is not a good way to deal with this. It only makes you look bad. Why don't you challenge him to a best out of 5 singles match? At least one of you will be declared a winner and can gloat over the other one.

Cisco2001

Cisco2001

[Soloman]

It's jot cheating to play newbies. I try to avoid playing them as the risk vs. reward is not to my liking. However, if JR wants to join their games then that's his right and is considered fair play under the rules of this site. If Lack wants to change the rules so that beating a newbie results in 0 points, then that is fine by me, as long as I can block newbies from joining my games. Regardless, playing them IS NOT AGAINST the rules.

JR did not reach his rank 7 points at a time. I can assure you that it's much more efficient to play higher ranks to bump up your score, unless you're Klobber of course. If you look at JR's games, his point gains came from playing higher ticket players. Also, it's easy to spot a multi as they are utilized repeatedly and the players that were listed have not been involved in any more games with JR.

Soloman; I understand that you don't like JR. However, accusing him of being a cheater because he plays newbies is not a good way to deal with this. It only makes you look bad. Why don't you challenge him to a best out of 5 singles match? At least one of you will be declared a winner and can gloat over the other one.

Cisco2001

Cisco2001

there are 29 pages of these games and the points do addup when you look at the shear magnatude of these games. You say it is not cheating I guess the admin and mods will be the ones to decide whether there is cheating or some type of abuse occurring. IN the least denominator it is unsportsman like conduct. If he is not cheating then he is like a NBA star Playing middle school kids for there lunch money. I still Believe that there is something more if not then the mods will clear him and no harm to him...

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

It's jot cheating to play newbies. I try to avoid playing them as the risk vs. reward is not to my liking. However, if JR wants to join their games then that's his right and is considered fair play under the rules of this site. If Lack wants to change the rules so that beating a newbie results in 0 points, then that is fine by me, as long as I can block newbies from joining my games. Regardless, playing them IS NOT AGAINST the rules.

JR did not reach his rank 7 points at a time. I can assure you that it's much more efficient to play higher ranks to bump up your score, unless you're Klobber of course. If you look at JR's games, his point gains came from playing higher ticket players. Also, it's easy to spot a multi as they are utilized repeatedly and the players that were listed have not been involved in any more games with JR.

Soloman; I understand that you don't like JR. However, accusing him of being a cheater because he plays newbies is not a good way to deal with this. It only makes you look bad. Why don't you challenge him to a best out of 5 singles match? At least one of you will be declared a winner and can gloat over the other one.

Cisco2001

Cisco2001

there are 29 pages of these games and the points do addup when you look at the shear magnatude of these games. You say it is not cheating I guess the admin and mods will be the ones to decide whether there is cheating or some type of abuse occurring. IN the least denominator it is unsportsman like conduct. If he is not cheating then he is like a NBA star Playing middle school kids for there lunch money. I still Believe that there is something more if not then the mods will clear him and no harm to him...

get your calculator and prepare for math 101.

29 pages of games= 2,900 games
I won 93% of these games

93% = 2,697 games won
203 games lost

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 80 points per loss= 16,240 points

net gain= -58 points

nice dectective work Nancy Drew. What rule do you want established? What is being abused? Lets set up a rule for you asking that only leet players play players over 3,000 points. Than I get to play 20 players out of a possible 20,000 players just to make you happy.

you were busted as a multi and having secret alliances. So your lashing out at the players that busted you and you talk about poor sportsmanship? Your a goddamn cheat and liar. you have no say here. so do us all a favor and just die or we can settle for you to just leave.

[Soloman]

It's jot cheating to play newbies. I try to avoid playing them as the risk vs. reward is not to my liking. However, if JR wants to join their games then that's his right and is considered fair play under the rules of this site. If Lack wants to change the rules so that beating a newbie results in 0 points, then that is fine by me, as long as I can block newbies from joining my games. Regardless, playing them IS NOT AGAINST the rules.

JR did not reach his rank 7 points at a time. I can assure you that it's much more efficient to play higher ranks to bump up your score, unless you're Klobber of course. If you look at JR's games, his point gains came from playing higher ticket players. Also, it's easy to spot a multi as they are utilized repeatedly and the players that were listed have not been involved in any more games with JR.

Soloman; I understand that you don't like JR. However, accusing him of being a cheater because he plays newbies is not a good way to deal with this. It only makes you look bad. Why don't you challenge him to a best out of 5 singles match? At least one of you will be declared a winner and can gloat over the other one.

Cisco2001

Cisco2001

there are 29 pages of these games and the points do addup when you look at the shear magnatude of these games. You say it is not cheating I guess the admin and mods will be the ones to decide whether there is cheating or some type of abuse occurring. IN the least denominator it is unsportsman like conduct. If he is not cheating then he is like a NBA star Playing middle school kids for there lunch money. I still Believe that there is something more if not then the mods will clear him and no harm to him...

get your calculator and prepare for math 101.

29 pages of games= 2,900 games
I won 93% of these games

93% = 2,697 games won
203 games lost

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 80 points per loss= 16,240 points

net gain= -58 points

nice dectective work Nancy Drew. What rule do you want established? What is being abused? Lets set up a rule for you asking that only leet players play players over 3,000 points. Than I get to play 20 players out of a possible 20,000 players just to make you happy.

you were busted as a multi and having secret alliances. So your lashing out at the players that busted you and you talk about poor sportsmanship? Your a goddamn cheat and liar. you have no say here. so do us all a favor and just die or we can settle for you to just leave.

LOL wow what a mouth, I am not a cheat I was cleared which is the reason both my Fiancee and I have been reinstated we were thoughtfull enough to announce long before any accusations occurred that we both played from same computer. I am sorry you have no real life friends and that your anti social ego is so caught up in your online fantasy that anytime you do not get your way you throw a tantrum and cyber harrass.

The facts are we have not been been busted because we play fairly with one another whether you believe that or not really does not matter. I think your biggest problem with this thread is I am right and you know that your actions reveal you as the snake you are. I am simply casting light upon you and revealing you for nefarious hypcrite you are. There is also a fundamental flaw in your math while those figures hold true for you at your current rank the gain is more and the loss less at your lower ranks. Your calcualtions do not compensate for those variables. So please get mad and say whatever you feel you must you are guilty and you know it...

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

there are 29 pages of these games and the points do addup when you look at the shear magnatude of these games. You say it is not cheating I guess the admin and mods will be the ones to decide whether there is cheating or some type of abuse occurring. IN the least denominator it is unsportsman like conduct. If he is not cheating then he is like a NBA star Playing middle school kids for there lunch money. I still Believe that there is something more if not then the mods will clear him and no harm to him...[/quote]get your calculator and prepare for math 101.

29 pages of games= 2,900 games
I won 93% of these games

93% = 2,697 games won
203 games lost

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 80 points per loss= 16,240 points

net gain= -58 points

nice dectective work Nancy Drew. What rule do you want established? What is being abused? Lets set up a rule for you asking that only leet players play players over 3,000 points. Than I get to play 20 players out of a possible 20,000 players just to make you happy.

you were busted as a multi and having secret alliances. So your lashing out at the players that busted you and you talk about poor sportsmanship? Your a goddamn cheat and liar. you have no say here. so do us all a favor and just die or we can settle for you to just leave.[/quote]

LOL wow what a mouth, I am not a cheat I was cleared which is the reason both my Fiancee and I have been reinstated we were thoughtfull enough to announce long before any accusations occurred that we both played from same computer. I am sorry you have no real life friends and that your anti social ego is so caught up in your online fantasy that anytime you do not get your way you throw a tantrum and cyber harrass.

The facts are we have not been been busted because we play fairly with one another whether you believe that or not really does not matter. I think your biggest problem with this thread is I am right and you know that your actions reveal you as the snake you are. I am simply casting light upon you and revealing you for nefarious hypcrite you are. There is also a fundamental flaw in your math while those figures hold true for you at your current rank the gain is more and the loss less at your lower ranks. Your calcualtions do not compensate for those variables. So please get mad and say whatever you feel you must you are guilty and you know it...[/quote]




your right, it is an average since my score ranges from 2800-3500. currently I am at 3,100. so the average is close enough. I also won 25 games and gained 0 points.

honestly, I dont care if new players lose points or not. Just so I lose none in return. but to sum things up, I have cheated in nothing you mentioned. Obviously after 10 checks already I have no multi acounts and it is impossible to have secret alliances in a 1 vs 1 like you accused me of in your original post in this thread and I have abused nothing by the players I play. there is no rule stating I must only play players over 3,000 points. and the end result is, my net gain in points is in the negative. Again, your lashing out with nonsense just because your a cheat and a liar.

[Dancing Mustard]

So JohnnyRocket24 is a multi?

Good to get that known.

[nagerous]

Actually, wocket DiM did the real maths in another thread and proved that you had a bigger net gain than that.

[Snorri1234]

So JohnnyRocket24 is a multi?

Good to get that known.

Didn't we know that already?

[montreal4cup]

This really helps me im in game 2298903 with him how do i know he is not cheating on that one?

[treefiddy]

Actually, wocket DiM did the real maths in another thread and proved that you had a bigger net gain than that.

He may have just been quoting the math I did a long time ago. Johnny likes to downplay his point gain from 1v1; either way, that doesn't make him a cheater.

Solomon, I'd love to see a compiled list of games that JR has done this on. Not because I think he's cheating, but because I want you to waste your time on this. Start with recent games. Games in the 400,000 area (essentially a year ago) won't really help your case.

[DiM]

Actually, wocket DiM did the real maths in another thread and proved that you had a bigger net gain than that.

He may have just been quoting the math I did a long time ago. Johnny likes to downplay his point gain from 1v1; either way, that doesn't make him a cheater.

qft, in several occasions i have quoted treefiddy calculations from last november (i think) and on other occasions i have updated the calculations to the date of the post. last i remember JR had a profit of over 1400 points. based solely on freestyle 1v1.

also using jr's own figures we can see how much of a liar he is:

get your calculator and prepare for math 101.

29 pages of games= 2,900 games
I won 93% of these games

93% = 2,697 games won
203 games lost

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 80 points per loss= 16,240 points

net gain= -58 points

well johnny you get ready for math 101.

an 80 points per loss implies that your average score when calculating is 4000 points. we all know that's BS and that you were NEVER at 4000 points. you came close but never managed to get to 4000 points

anyway for most of the time your average was ~3000. at that score you lose just 60 points not 80.

so with your own numbers we have

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 60 points per loss= 12,180 points

net gain= 4002 points

let's assume your average score was higher. let's say 3500 points (which we all know it is absurd since lately you've been as low as 2500.

well with 3500 points average you'd lose 70 points per game

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 60 points per loss= 14,210 points

net gain= 1972 points

does this make him a cheater? of course not. it just makes him an abuser and a lousy person. but not a cheater.
btw the funniest thing is that with all that abusing he still didn't manage to get over 4000 points. he came close but still not over.

but don't worry johnny more and more new recruits are joining so there will always be fresh meat for you, not to mention inflation is growing so maybe you'll finally get over 4000 i know you want it


PS: it's a sad thing points don't buy you respect.

[t-o-m]

qft well done DiM

[TheBro]

Johnny is obvi a multi. Him and himself.

[alster]

I hope he does not have some type of secret clan that engages in this same activity and conspires with him.

I loved this part. Amazing that no one commented on it.

It's just like in the Da Vinci Code... it must be a conspiracy...

[Soloman]

I hope he does not have some type of secret clan that engages in this same activity and conspires with him.

I loved this part. Amazing that no one commented on it.

It's just like in the Da Vinci Code... it must be a conspiracy...

Well Imagine if you will a group who has nothing better to do with there life then buld CC points so they creat an immense amount of Multi's that they agree to use against each other in simple game that they then preced to throw. They are careful to make sure another member of the group logs in as the multi or a proxy is used in order to make sure different IP's are used in each case and they also engage in regular games with legitimate players to further insulate themselves. They even go so far as hunting and accusing anyone else both the innocent and guilty so the mods are to busy to evey catch on or notice there scheme. NOw I introduce you to the ring leader Mr. Johnny Rocket...Yes it is a conspiricy theory as are all multi and or secret alliance accusations...

[cmckinney]

if you want a list of my multis, just ask. I have no problem handing them out. Not sure how I can have secret alliances in a 1 vs 1, but hey, im guilty as charged there too.

I'm not an expert on these things...but the guy just admitted he had loads of multis. Anything gonna happen to him? Or are the mods as biase as I'm beginning to think they are.

[cisco2001]

if you want a list of my multis, just ask. I have no problem handing them out. Not sure how I can have secret alliances in a 1 vs 1, but hey, im guilty as charged there too.

I'm not an expert on these things...but the guy just admitted he had loads of multis. Anything gonna happen to him? Or are the mods as biase as I'm beginning to think they are.

Normally, I try to temper the insults in this forum as I find them to be distracting and not necessary. However, cmckinney is a fucking idiot. Read the whole thread before you post!

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

[/quote]



let's assume your average score was higher. let's say 3500 points (which we all know it is absurd since lately you've been as low as 2500.

well with 3500 points average you'd lose 70 points per game

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 60 points per loss= 14,210 points

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and for a win at 3,500 points I get 5 points...not 6. So 2,697 wins at 5 points per win= 13,485 points. AGAIN- GIVING ME A NET LOSS. you cant change one figure and not the other. nice try though

and my score was not down to 2,500. it dipped to 2,700 recently for a couple days.

[AAFitz]

There is a very specific pattern involved with this to be dismissive would be a gross error of negligence. I have seen many posts with far less evidence and in some cases evidence to the contrary that get support, makes me wonder if there is any collusion involved in the rapid defense of Mr. Rocket...

I recommend another thread, and please I beg of you list me specifically. I posted somewhat of a defense here albeit with a fair enough caveat, but have never had the privilege of my very own cheating thread. Lets make sure Im not trying to help JR cover anything up here.

I will once again say however, that no one is above suspicion in here, especially those that sometimes seem above suspicion, but the hunters know this. They will look into it of course just to be safe, but they may fall short of researching any multi assistance program that you are insinuating may exist. Im all for a good conspiracy theory, and this would be a good one, but its just a bit of a stretch.

The problem in this case, is that JR is such an advocate against cheating, and advocates such strict translation of the rules, beyond what many actually consider cheating, that one would have to not only believe he has a few multis for a few points, but that also is just absolutely lying through his teeth and being as hypocritical as anyone who ever posted in CC. Again, possible. It just doesnt make a lot of sense.

[DiM]

let's assume your average score was higher. let's say 3500 points (which we all know it is absurd since lately you've been as low as 2500.

well with 3500 points average you'd lose 70 points per game

2,697 wins at 6 points per win = 16,182 points
203 losses at 60 points per loss= 14,210 points

and for a win at 3,500 points I get 5 points...not 6. So 2,697 wins at 5 points per win= 13,485 points. AGAIN- GIVING ME A NET LOSS. you cant change one figure and not the other. nice try though
and my score was not down to 2,500. it dipped to 2,700 recently for a couple days.

wrong again johnny boy. for an average of 3500 you get 6 points per win.

simple math. (1000/3500)*20=5,71 which always rounds up to 6.
AGAIN GIVING YOU A BIG PROFIT OF: 1972

oh and your score was down to bellow 2500 a fe months ago. there was even a thread about this when you fell to captain. you had 2400+ at that moment