LFAW wrote:I have been informed by more fellow Legionnaires that this apparently counts as a loss when only 1/2 the games were played?
I got in touch with Marvel so he asked me to put my opinion here so here it is.
This was not a full clan war and as such I believe this cannot count as a loss or a victory for either side. I remember from our offsite forum we waited a month for the second half before we finally ruled off the war wasn't to be completed.
My ex-leader, ClockworK in his quote above said 'you guys won' - this was referring to the first half of the games as proven by the next bit
'since you never got back to us about the second half games'
Furthermore to further show this challenge was not complete - 'if you guys decide to commit to a full war'
This does not count as a loss so I do ask Marvel to remove this.
And as joint 'leader' of ++The Legion++ and member of the High council (1 of 2 people) that should give me the right to post this (seeing as you said you needed a leader to come in and say this).
So, can any clanmember(s) of the 18 And Under Clan and the ++The Legion++ read above information of LFAW and put in here his/her suggestions and so on?
Pimphawks First Post wrote:The Legion Vs. The 18 and Under clan... These are The Legion's home games... 18 and Under wins are red and The Legion wins are blue
As you can see here in bold, these are only our home games, the away games never happened so this cannot count as a loss.
we put forth the first half of the games. we lost a lot of those. We waited for them to send their games so we could play them. They never did. That war is incomplete. If the 18 and under clan wish to finish then we would be happy to comply.
That should not go down as a loss if it was not complete. Just because they chose not to play half of the games because they were ahead is not a fair way of winning a war...
clockwork's comments were concerning the first half of the war. we were not even an official clan at that time. so at the time we had no recourse for getting them to comply.
the fairest way to decide this is to do the second half games. otherwise we do not recognize the loss since it is not complete...this is an ongoing war for us. the win/loss from the first half can stand as we complete the war. we just need an equal number of second half games.
ralphcptc
co-leader of the Legion
Former Praetor of The Legion. Past Centurion.
High pts 2241
MarVal wrote:So, can any clanmember(s) of the 18 And Under Clan and the ++The Legion++ read above information of LFAW and put in here his/her suggestions and so on?
Many thanks.
Both Clan Leaders PM-ed me about the discussion and both agree that they will play the second half.
We also defeated the Dragoons. Again no public threads, but results below:
Legends of War: 12
Imperial Dragoons: 4
1265777 - Legends of War
1265780 - Legends of War
1265781 - Dragoons
1265784 - Legends of War
1265785 - Dragoons
1265786 - Dragoons
1265787 - Legends of War
1265788 - Dragoons
1265791 - Legends of War
1265792 - Legends of War
1265793 - Legends of War
1265794 - Legends of War
1265795 - Legends of War
1265796 - Legends of War
1265799 - Legends of War
1265882 - Legends of War
waseemalim wrote:We also defeated the Dragoons. Again no public threads, but results below:
Legends of War: 12
Imperial Dragoons: 4
1265777 - Legends of War
1265780 - Legends of War
1265781 - Dragoons
1265784 - Legends of War
1265785 - Dragoons
1265786 - Dragoons
1265787 - Legends of War
1265788 - Dragoons
1265791 - Legends of War
1265792 - Legends of War
1265793 - Legends of War
1265794 - Legends of War
1265795 - Legends of War
1265796 - Legends of War
1265799 - Legends of War
1265882 - Legends of War
that was not a challenge, but a tournament.
Tournament Game: Team Doubles League - double dragoons v legends of war
waseemalim wrote:We also defeated the Dragoons. Again no public threads, but results below:
Legends of War: 12
Imperial Dragoons: 4
1265777 - Legends of War
1265780 - Legends of War
1265781 - Dragoons
1265784 - Legends of War
1265785 - Dragoons
1265786 - Dragoons
1265787 - Legends of War
1265788 - Dragoons
1265791 - Legends of War
1265792 - Legends of War
1265793 - Legends of War
1265794 - Legends of War
1265795 - Legends of War
1265796 - Legends of War
1265799 - Legends of War
1265882 - Legends of War
that was not a challenge, but a tournament.
Tournament Game: Team Doubles League - double dragoons v legends of war
Yea back in the days some of us abused tournament creation powers. That way games were created by people who could create tourneys, instead of individual teams. It was a clan challenge, but the games were created as tournament games.
I dont recall you playing any of the games. But could you ask some one who did (nester, poo) to confirm these results?
waseemalim wrote:We also defeated the Dragoons. Again no public threads, but results below:
Legends of War: 12
Imperial Dragoons: 4
1265777 - Legends of War
1265780 - Legends of War
1265781 - Dragoons
1265784 - Legends of War
1265785 - Dragoons
1265786 - Dragoons
1265787 - Legends of War
1265788 - Dragoons
1265791 - Legends of War
1265792 - Legends of War
1265793 - Legends of War
1265794 - Legends of War
1265795 - Legends of War
1265796 - Legends of War
1265799 - Legends of War
1265882 - Legends of War
that was not a challenge, but a tournament.
Tournament Game: Team Doubles League - double dragoons v legends of war
hallenge, but the games were created as tournament games.
Yea back in the days some of us abused tournament creation powers. That way games were created by people who could create tourneys, instead of individual teams. It was a clan c
I dont recall you playing any of the games. But could you ask some one who did to confirm these results?
you are mistaken. those games are from yorkiepeter's clan doubles league. jpcloet took it over and can certainly vouch for it. and i believe we've already discussed that those games will not count as challenges since it never finished. and if it did count, the figures would be a mess since we had two teams in that league, the imperial dragoons, and the double dragoons.
Note:
Above 5 posts from the Clan Challenges Results thread, about the Challenge discussion between Legends of War versus Imperial Dragoons has been moved in this thread .
MarVal wrote:Note:
Above 5 posts from the Clan Challenges Results thread, about the Challenge discussion between Legends of War versus Imperial Dragoons has been moved in this thread .
David_Wain wrote:The Bushwhackers disbanded a while back so would this challenge still count? if so I will ask one of the original leaders to step forward & confirm, or see if I can't find record of it somewhere.
That will be fine, David_Wain. Let them confirm and find games you played against them. Also GL on finding maybe a record or something.
So if its in your thread, give me names of the original leaders and some pagenumbers, cause your thread has 187 pages
Grtz
MarVal
i was a member of the BW but we had no leader..and i cant remember about the games. i thought BW won it..but i could be wrong. find the games and ull have the answer..
timmytuttut88 wrote:I meant in the other thread. How it says:
18 and under clan
victories
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defeated
- LOD
Instead of defeated, have it say losses. I probably should have posted this in the other thread.
I know, but I don't like the word "losses".
Cause IMO in a "real" battle you fight against the enemy and killed them all. All flags and people are cheering for your victory.
And when you fight and you must surrender (or you all die) you have been defeated by the enemy.
I hope you understand that? If not, I see your next post then
I disagree with the clan rules for the ladder, why only one competitive clan per person, they're fighting for a clan not themselves why can't they be in more than one?
EDIT: I think of clans as a country, you can fight for more than one country, so why not more than one clan?
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max is gr8 wrote:I disagree with the clan rules for the ladder, why only one competitive clan per person, they're fighting for a clan not themselves why can't they be in more than one?
EDIT: I think of clans as a country, you can fight for more than one country, so why not more than one clan?
Umm... conflict of interest? It's not that hard to understand really.
